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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #30 - 09/07/07 at 09:33:07 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:09: Drive Train or Cam Timming Chain $0.25 per inch of chain length 35820 77th St East, Littlerock, California 93543 Roughly 36" of chain, So about $9 And this is a fun day trip for me up thru Angeles forest Hwy. And I already have a stock chain in pocket.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #31 - 09/07/07 at 11:02:08 Wayulll, arenCHEW spayshull?? Lucky Dawg!
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #32 - 09/07/07 at 11:38:02 Okay guys, count me in for this chain, as it may well be a one-time deal. I may still get it cryo treated before using it.
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toddlamp8 Full Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 241 Gender:	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #33 - 09/07/07 at 13:25:30 I'm in. I'll need one sooner or later.
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Oldfeller2 Senior Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 323 Gender:	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #34 - 09/08/07 at 04:30:16 Counting Lancer and I as one chain each, the count stands at 15 custom cam chains. Oldfeller
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Max_Morley Serious Thumper Offline LT650 Luxury Touring & sidecar rig Posts: 1490 Moses Lake. WA Gender:	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #35 - 09/08/07 at 10:32:16 Max is in for a couple
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #36 - 09/08/07 at 11:18:44 Now, how much $$ we talking here? When ya need it? Sorry if I am frustrating, the memory just isnt good. I really dont want to reread the whole thing.
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Oldfeller2 Senior Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 323 Gender:	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #37 - 09/08/07 at 13:26:12 We will ask Morse for a price based upon 20 chains since that is where we are (rounded up a couple). They will tell is if they will build that few or not, and what the price would be if they are willing to do it for only 20 chains. Within a week I will likely be able to get an answer. Oldfeller
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steely Senior Member Offline Posts: 325 Tulsa, Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #38 - 09/08/07 at 18:49:36 I just did mine last month, but I will need one again in a few years, and I would like to have it on hand. Put me down for one.
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Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved)
Reply #39 - 09/13/07 at 15:18:10

Based on 20 chains the price of the improved Morse chain will be $49.35 free on board here in the USA. Shipped to your door in a $4.60 Prepaid US Postal Service mailer brings the theoretical total to $53.95.

If you wanted your chain 300 BELOW treated (shipping both ways and chill service) add $15. My thought is that it is equally cheap for you to send it to them personally as the only way I could get it any cheaper is to treat ALL the chains at one lick. That would require some serious agreement from everybody up front.

Biggest fly in the ointment is the lead time. 3 months minimum -- over half of which is over the water shipping time from Japan.

Second fly is that all of the actual Morse production and shipping costs from Japan must be paid 100% in advance to start the order.

Last fly is export duty and export taxes -- right now they are estimated and could be different when we actually go and do the deed. Note, this would only become known after we had paid and waited, I'd get an e-mail saying the estimate was off by XX dollars and to send more money.

Good news is that the improved chain as discussed above even with the 300 BELOW treatment costs LESS than a stock chain bought from Bike Bandit or Ron Eyers.

(somebody post the actual buy me cost for the Suzuki stock chain that wears out too quick ....)

Can we do it? Yes, it will just take patience.

Will it be better? Yes, especially if we can all agree on the 300 BELOW treatment is to be done on all the chains in bulk.

Will it be cheaper? Actually, yes --- even with improved nitrided pins and the 300 BELOW treatment.

Better two ways and cheaper ---

What do you think? Speak up on the 300 BELOW thing those of you who are on deck for the deal. We need to hash this point out before figuring a final cost and beginning to collect checks.

Oldfeller

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #40 - 09/13/07 at 15:34:26 If I recall correctly, I paid $68 not including shipping in Nov. '06. But It's higher now $86.
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Max_Morley Serious Thumper Offline LT650 Luxury Touring & sidecar rig Posts: 1490 Moses Lake. WA Gender:	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #41 - 09/13/07 at 15:35:28 Max says he is still in for 2 with the treatment. Max
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Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved)
Reply #42 - 09/13/07 at 15:47:43

With that being the cost, I am in for 1, & cryo, if possible, if not, I will handle the cryo myself.

OHH, IF what I think I saw is correct, I think I see one reason for a shorter cam chain life in more recent years. Did someone say in 03 or so they changed the spring in the tensioner for a stiffer one? If so, that would possibly cause it to "Grab a tooth" on the tensioner "Ratchet" & pawl & then the engine jug "growth" at temperature stretches the chain, allowing the tensioner to reach 18mm sooner. I will look at a softer spring, for mine.

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Moofed Full Member Alliance Member Offline ...and the engine just gleams... Posts: 148 Bloomington, Indiana Gender:	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #43 - 09/13/07 at 16:57:42 Great news! I see no reason to skip the cryo treatment, especially if the final cost is still equal or less than a regular chain. A deal like that seems ripe for some ebay action... too bad I don't have the capital for it.
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10665 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Counting cam chain needs (new improved) Reply #44 - 09/13/07 at 17:23:41 I vote for the whole banana
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