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Re: Shift points
Reply #15 - 08/20/07 at 21:45:15

Reelthing wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:

need to let off the throttle a little more when you shift - assume your giving it fair bit of throttle - high power bikes will pull wheelies or smoke the back tire instead of lunge if you keep the throttle where it was when you shift

Reelthing,

Youre right, I was giving it too much gas.....whew,so much to remember when youre learning

I'm glad its not too high powered

Thanks!!

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Re: Shift points
Reply #17 - 08/20/07 at 22:12:44

FreeSpirit wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:

Sluggo,

You generally use the ......what?

wide open throttle: wot i get really poor milage, but it is fun.

wot is a technique used in two stroke engines. either on or off, little inbetween. it's a lube thing. oil mix with fuel more fuel more lube. there is no sump for oil storage, it's all burned up in combustion proccess. that'w whey the tell tale blue smoke out a two stroke.

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FreeSpirit Serious Thumper Offline Joy is my Compass ! Posts: 3823 North Georgia Gender:	Re: Shift points Reply #18 - 08/20/07 at 22:21:13 Oh,ok....Thanks,I wondered what that was.
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Re: Shift points
Reply #19 - 08/20/07 at 22:24:09

Tbear, I ride very conservatively, and I have found my own shift points that feel good for me and the bike. On just a easy relaxing ride, I shift to 2nd at around 15, to 3rd at around 25, to 4th at around 35 and to 5th at around 45. I like to keep it just above the "bucking" speed so I have smooth acceleration. If I am pulling out onto a highway or a main State highway, I add around 5MPH, maybe a little more. I am running completely stock.
Relax, be alert, ride safe and enjoy. 8) Grin

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Re: Shift points
Reply #20 - 08/21/07 at 04:49:50

Freespirit,

There is a lot to remember when starting out. I found a key to making everything "mesh" is a few minutes leading up to getting on the bike I do a little visualization of riding, safety, and awareness. I find if I just jump on and take off, like ya can in a car, I feel a little out of sink; don't constantly check my 6, shift kinda funny, brake either a little too late or early.

I also find if I "think" about shifting I'm not as smooth; same problem if I "think" about hard turns and twisties.

Just my personal zen to riding.

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Re: Shift points
Reply #21 - 08/21/07 at 06:25:55

in the morning when you're getting your zen lined up - put a small chunk of 2"x4" under the kick stand and eyeball the oil sight glass - only takes about 30 sec to see that the oil level is where you expect it to be and reasonably clean - most of these singles will use some oil even when new as they huff and puff out the breather tube far more than a multicylinder engine that takes a little oil mist with it

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FreeSpirit Serious Thumper Offline Joy is my Compass ! Posts: 3823 North Georgia Gender:	Re: Shift points Reply #22 - 08/21/07 at 09:22:41 Thanks Forrest and Reelthing.... Very good info!! I appreciate it ! Now if I could just make it cooler somehow in this hot weather....I'm still riding slower than you guys,while learning
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Re: Shift points
Reply #23 - 08/21/07 at 16:03:16

Reelthing wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:

in the morning when you're getting your zen lined up - put a small chunk of 2"x4" under the kick stand and eyeball the oil sight glass - only takes about 30 sec to see that the oil level is where you expect it to be and reasonably clean - most of these singles will use some oil even when new as they huff and puff out the breather tube far more than a multicylinder engine that takes a little oil mist with it

So, when I need to add a splash every 200 or so miles, that doesnt mean the engine is allowing oil down past the valve guides or up last the rings & burning it? I have been concerned. How do I know which is happening? The exhaust is not smoking bule,soo? Clues?

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Re: Shift points
Reply #24 - 08/21/07 at 17:26:36

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:

So, when I need to add a splash every 200 or so miles, that doesnt mean the engine is allowing oil down past the valve guides or up last the rings & burning it? I have been concerned. How do I know which is happening? The exhaust is not smoking bule,soo? Clues?

Hummm, someone might be ride'n like they stole it 8)guess you could do a leak down test to check for leaky rings - valve guides might be tougher to check

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T Mack 1 - FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline sold 2001 LS650 for a 1986 XLH1100 Posts: 2919 Emmaus,Pa Gender:	Re: Shift points Reply #25 - 08/21/07 at 18:59:37 Define a splash......2 oz, 5 oz, 5 cc etc etc. Have someone ride behind you on sunny day and watch for smoke. Also, check the exhaust soot. It should be powder-y, not greasy. Also check spark plug.....it's a great indicator. Do you know if the engine has been rebuilt????
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