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Supertrapp Muffler
06/20/07 at 22:26:58

I just bought but have not yet received a Supertrapp muffler for my bike. It came off another Savage. Mine is an '87 so if nothing has been changed from stock the main jet should be a 155. Do you think I will see any performance increase just by putting it on or will I need to rejet or replace the carb to make a difference?. Either way it should sound better
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Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Reply #1 - 06/21/07 at 03:37:08

Steve, I ran my 02 savage with a supertrapp, a K@N air filter and stock jetting. It had tons more pull and power than with the stock exhaust. It also made the bike sound like a real motorcycle instead of a lawn mower. Not as deep or throaty as a Harley but close. The instructions with the supertrapp says to run it with stock jetting unless your going to be using more than 8 discs. It ran fine this way, with no backfiring at all anymore. Last week Gregg D changed my pilot and main jet to a 155 and it even has more power now and stronger pull from 60 to 70 plus. Im still running only 8 discs. Id run it stock for a while and see how it runs first before rejetting. Also run it on the rich side and the bluing on the single walled exhaust will be at a minumum. 26,000 miles and the supertrapp is a light golden color and no discoraltion at all on the exhaust pipe.

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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Supertrapp Muffler Reply #2 - 06/21/07 at 04:32:20 With a 155, I'm thinking you'll have to retune/adjust but not rejet.
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justin_o_guy

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Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Reply #3 - 06/21/07 at 10:13:28

My Trapp has 14 baffles on it. Running a 152.5 main, stock pilot on an 05 model. It is finally acting like it may be just about right. Its been rich for a long time. Now, when I slam the throttle shut I sometimes get a small Boof. I am considering going to a 150 main & pulling baffles if needed to ballance the thing a bit more to the lean side. Its very close now. I am in East Tx, Longview, & cant remember the elevation, but it is a factor, so get to factorin! Good luck, I think you will like the sound of that Trapp.

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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Supertrapp Muffler Reply #4 - 06/21/07 at 10:40:31 I was very similar with my MAC when I had the stock carb installed. The overall feel of the bike with the 152.5 and 155 were the same but the mileage was worse with the 155.
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SteveRocket1 Senior Member Offline A day without riding is like a day without beer. Posts: 441 California Gender:	Re: Supertrapp Muffler Reply #5 - 06/23/07 at 11:55:49 got my Super trap yesterday, put it on this morning sounds much better, Not sure if there is any performance increase yet. Just enjoying the sound right now.
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justin_o_guy

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Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Reply #6 - 06/23/07 at 22:18:18

Some day I will remember to run some time trials before I do any mods. Well, Maybe its too late. Ive already messed with the airbox, changed the cam, jetted, put a Supertrappon it, put the hotter plug in it & now, I guess I have given it to my daughter. Looks like all I will be changing now is oil & tires & stuff like that.

But, for you folks who are still messing with them, trying to get more out of them, I will say, if I had just been a little more scientific, I think I could have avoided some questions in my own mind & frustration. It would have been nice to be able to quantify the differences after each change.

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SteveRocket1 Senior Member Offline A day without riding is like a day without beer. Posts: 441 California Gender:	Re: Supertrapp Muffler Reply #7 - 06/24/07 at 18:52:16 Bike does seem a bit more punchy now or It could be my imagination. It sounds better and it does not seem to pop back much more than before except when cold,so I presume it's just a little bit leaner I am running 8 baffles right now. I might re-jet and added some more later. Ride Safe Steve
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justin_o_guy Ex Member	Re: Supertrapp Muffler Reply #8 - 06/24/07 at 19:08:53 Maybe open the intake a bit, desnorkel that thing, its a 5 minute job. Pop the seat, rip the snorkel out, put the seat back & run another time trial, to see if it helped.
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stinger Serious Thumper Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 848	Re: Supertrapp Muffler Reply #9 - 06/25/07 at 03:17:03 Steve, seriously invest in a low restricted air filter like the K@N. It made mine run better. It breathes better! I noticed a bigger difference in power more by changing the air filter to a K@N than rejetting..... And you have to admit it sure sounds cool when you back off from 3rd or 4th gear!
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SteveRocket1 Senior Member Offline A day without riding is like a day without beer. Posts: 441 California Gender:	Re: Supertrapp Muffler Reply #10 - 06/25/07 at 15:19:54 do you mean the drop in type or the cone type ?. As I might end up riding in the rain from time to time (not very often in California) would keeping the airbox and putting in a drop-in K & N be best?. Also would that make it even more lean witrh greater airflow?
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SteveRocket1 Senior Member Offline A day without riding is like a day without beer. Posts: 441 California Gender:	Re: Supertrapp Muffler Reply #11 - 06/25/07 at 15:20:39 Oh Yes I do love the sound too. lol
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justin_o_guy Ex Member	Re: Supertrapp Muffler Reply #12 - 06/25/07 at 18:54:18 I put the drop in in mine. I havent calculated the square inches of one versus the other. I also modded the airbox a bit, to increase the volume between the filter element & the carb.
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geo Full Member Offline I'm a Savage Posts: 204 Orlando Gender:	Re: Supertrapp Muffler Reply #13 - 06/25/07 at 19:48:02 It sounds like an old Ford flat-head with glasspacs with the SuperTrapp when you back off.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Supertrapp Muffler Reply #14 - 06/26/07 at 20:29:08 my supertrapp is turning blue? But the header is normal gold. whaaaaaaat! ???
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