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Newbie's ride for glory, part 1.  
05/06/07 at 12:19:49
 
Hey guys and gals, I just registered and wanted to ask for your advice on a road trip with a '03 savage from key west, fl to pittsburgh, pa...sometime in August.  The bike itself is all stock (I believe) and seems to run flawlessly with the exception of a slight head gasket leak that is more of an annoyance than a problem.  

Any hard earned lessons from life on the road with the savage would be helpful...as well as common problems I should be prepared to face (probably alone, at night, in the rain with a headlamp in the middle of nowhere.  heres hoping.)  

This site is really great, Im looking forward to learning as much as I can.  

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Reply #1 - 05/06/07 at 12:27:49
 
Are you up for a 1300+ mile trip?? what kind of experience do you have?? what kind of bikes have you owned??We need details about your experience and what has been done to the bike?? you can mod the bike to keep up on the interstate fairly easy.
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Reply #2 - 05/06/07 at 12:58:29
 
How many miles on the bike ?  You might want to pop the clutch cover and have a very good look at the cam chain tensioner. Make sure you have good tires and a fresh oil change.

How fast do you plan on cruising ? Anything more than a steady 70MPH is going to put some stress on the bike.

How much time do you have to get there ? Remember, you have to gas up every 100 or so miles, so plan ahead. I would suggest 3 days on the road ought to do it.

Good luck, that ride will certainly be a challenge, but if you're young, and up to it, it will be memorable (in a good way)
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Reply #3 - 05/06/07 at 13:23:28
 
general opinion on this site seems to be that what looks to be a head gasket problem is the dreaded plug cap leak. pretty sure Suzuki (at last) fixed it as of a certain model year but not sure when.

were I going on such a trip I'd take some oil & a rag or 2 with me & plan on cruising @ 65 mph, which means keeping out of way of just about everything on the interstate & traveling by day - lights on savage aren't the greatest in the world) but I think doable (cruising @ that speed, that is, not necessarily taking the trip as, as others said, depends on newness of tires, how many miles on bike, your experience, how many bikes you have owned, doing oil change soon before  leaving, etc.)
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Reply #4 - 05/06/07 at 14:39:11
 
Hmmm? The infamous Head Cap Plug Leak was supposedly fixed with the 2001 model year with a re-designed Cap Plug ... as yours is a 2003 (as is my Savage), I'm very curious to learn more about your oil leak ... may be possible that the re-designed plug did not remedy the problem and now that +'01 LS650's are gettin' older, the infamous leak is showing up again?
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Reply #5 - 05/06/07 at 16:24:06
 
Perry my savage is an 01 and it had the plug leak made the bike shop fix it before I bought it.
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Reply #6 - 05/06/07 at 21:54:49
 
Doesn't matter how they redesign the plug... Engine heat will cook it, making it shrink  bit. Savages shake, so it will get jarred a bit out of place. Presto! You now have the infamous head plug leak.

I let mine leak. I'll clean it off this summer when I change the storage oil. Gotta get it running again before worrying about aesthetics. Fix the leak? Why waste the money, it will just come back eventually.

That kind of trip on a stock seat? Better your behind than mine...
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Reply #7 - 05/07/07 at 09:56:56
 
My '96 leaked, and had the new plug.  It was sealed with black stuff and leaked anyway.  I also had a leak near the spark plug.  Not sure but think it was the o-ring sealing the rocker arm.  

Anyway, new plug doesn't fix an old problem if the mechanic doesn't seal it or uses the wrong sealer.   Grin
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Reply #8 - 05/07/07 at 09:59:36
 
Ok basic personal details are as follows....im 26, the captain of a tall ship here in key west, and have been riding motorcycles for about a year and a half now.  This is my 3rd bike, before that was a 72 triumph daytona 500 and then a 76 honda cb550 four.  The triumph was stolen in boston (darn) and the cb I sold in pittsburgh...both ran pretty good.  I've had the opportunity to do some regular maintenance myself (front/rear tire removal, brake pad change, oil change, even took an old 86 rebel carb apart once which was a lesson in what NOT to try yourself) but my expierence is limited.  So, with a good tool kit in hand and the clymers manual, plus another good book on motorcycle maintenance, AND if worse comes to worse roadside assistance with progressive, I feel prepared to tackle this trip.  
Now, the trip is not just to get up to pittsburgh, but to see more of the country I live in.  So time really is not an issue.  We're talking 2 weeks or so...meaning that highway driving isnt what I have in mind.  Backroads, local roads and incidently those cool roads they suggest to pedal bikers when they want to bike across the US.  Thats the name of the game in my opinion.  Take my time, enjoy the country, meet new people, don't die.  Not really in that order.  
The bike just hit 20k and has been in the shop as recently as 4 months ago with a complete checkup, new tires, new oil filter and spark plugs.  Not quite sure if the seat is stock, but it's wide and comfortable and i'm up for it (considering i'll be on it no more than 200 miles a day, at least thats the plan.)  

The truth is much of this trip isn't planned out to a T, it's just going to happen...But the more I can learn about the bike before hand, the happier I will definatly be.  

By the way, im planning on camping out using a hennessey hammock.  Anyone ever motorcycle camped with one?  They look SWEET.  

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Reply #9 - 05/07/07 at 10:05:55
 
Oh and about the plug leak...we took the seat off and the chrome thing around the head and checked it out.  It seemed to be coming from a plug...the mechanic doesnt work with savages so you know he wanted to take off the whole cylinder head and order another gasket, etc....but since the leak isnt that bad and I keep a good eye on the oil level, Im not too worried about it.  But I mean, is it just a problem with the temperature fluxuation of the screws, plus the vibration of the engine?  Because if it is, how is that problem solved on other motorcycles?  Dense rubber plug gasket or something?  

Anyway, it gives it character.
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Reply #10 - 05/07/07 at 10:38:15
 
I'm not talking about major mods to make trip more enjoyable/bearable (Like a new -say harley - seat) but a seat lift mod may help. check tech section for how to do it.

doing things  like a new muffler for more power only leads on to changing carb (rejetting) etc - save it for down the road after trip
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Reply #11 - 05/07/07 at 11:50:28
 
The plug we all know and love is hard to get a look at.

The one I referred to is directly over the spark plug and can't be seen without removal of the chrome head covers.

Replacing these seals requires removal of the head cover.  Not extremely easy, but I think I could have done it in a day with all parts in hand and a nap.  All I can say is clean the hell out it before hand.  Alot of dirt and crud collects up there with an oil leak.   Grin
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Reply #12 - 05/07/07 at 13:06:57
 
Around 200 miles a day for two weeks on a stock Savage. Ouch.

The good news is at 26 you will recover fast.

The not so bad news, 4-5 hours/day on the MC travelling (includes stops) will leave you plenty of time for the other stuff.

If I had to do it, I'd pop a couple of Advil before starting out in the morning.

Did I mention rain gear?

Hammocks are nice. Some parks I've camped at don't want you to tie anything around their trees though. You want to plan that and gas stops carefully, unless you want this to really be an adventure...

Just out of curiousity, why Pittsburgh?
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Reply #13 - 05/07/07 at 16:58:28
 
You will have plenty of time to plan a route and at 26, 2-4 hours a day shouldn't hurt TOOO MUCH.  Perhaps when the time draws near the forum members can work out some light escort to keep you company.  You might want to contact your regional Suzuki guys (if such people exist) for support (technical) in trade for photo op advertising. (I've seen such stuf done by Enfield for example).  
As a sailor, you might want to travel the coast up to Annappolis, then cross in land over the mtns.  I'd also look into cutting diagonally from North FLA to the Northwest towards the Mississipi Rv, then north.  Please keep us posted on your plans as the evolve.
It should truley be a trip of a life time. Cheesy
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Reply #14 - 05/07/07 at 17:40:17
 
WD wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05:
Doesn't matter how they redesign the plug... Engine heat will cook it, making it shrink  bit. Savages shake, so it will get jarred a bit out of place. Presto! You now have the infamous head plug leak.

I let mine leak. I'll clean it off this summer when I change the storage oil. Gotta get it running again before worrying about aesthetics. Fix the leak? Why waste the money, it will just come back eventually.

That kind of trip on a stock seat? Better your behind than mine...
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I'm living proof you can't fix the plug. My fix didn't last hardly anytime. I blamed myself and its just a design flaw. I'll be da*mned if I waste the time again. leak on savage leak on....
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