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Dynobob Serious Thumper Offline 2003 LS650 (with Supertrapp) Posts: 634 Northern Virginia Gender:	Re: MPG totally stinks, & has been lower Reply #15 - 05/05/07 at 08:50:26 justin_o_guy wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05: I can always do the plug read, WOT after warmed up, hit the kill & shut down? Is that the deal? Yes that's the deal. Let it cool off a bit before pulling the plug. You want the ceramic under the electrode to be chocolate brown. White is too lean.
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Reply #16 - 05/05/07 at 09:02:39

justin_o_guy wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05:

Thanx, Bob, I'll pay extra close attention when I do the main. Anyone else think I am flirting with disaster going to 152.5 using 14 baffles? I can always do the plug read, WOT after warmed up, hit the kill & shut down? Is that the deal?

use a new plug (or 3 or 4) to do it - champions are like $1.50 - cheap to play with

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tbalam Full Member Offline I like my kids, but I love my bike ;) Posts: 172 Fac o' the Sn Gender:	Re: MPG totally stinks, & has been lower Reply #17 - 05/05/07 at 11:44:36 Justin, Just for grins, how are you calculating your mpg? Second question have you checked your the accuracy of your odometer? This sounds like something more than a rich condition. It would seem to me that if you were that rich black smoke would be blowing from the tailpipe, and the bike would run like garbage.
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Reply #18 - 05/05/07 at 12:30:06

Well, When I gas up I look at the odometer. On those rare occasions I can remember the last mileage. Miles run divided by gallons.I used to get 55 when it was new. I have watche d it deteriorate for so long, When I get 70 miles & iit hits reserve, thats not cool,
I am gonna get the champions, sounds way cheap..
I will also be checking compression. What should I expect?

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Reply #19 - 05/05/07 at 12:55:12

justin_o_guy wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05:

I used to get 55 when it was new. I have watche d it deteriorate for so long

but but,,,wasn't the throttle hand a little lighter also when it was new - how about a test - fill it up - get it in 5th and go ride a steady 55 mph for like 30 miles - turn around and come back to the gas station - what did you get?

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Reply #20 - 05/05/07 at 13:08:54

THIRTEE Miles? Without Whippin IT? Have ya just lost yer dang MIInd Man? HOWWW many Miles per hour? You Cant be serious.. a problem is a problem is a problem,, but when the cure is too painful, it's just a fact the disease will have to be accepted... AWWWW Heck,,, OKay,, I cant run in 5th that far , BUT, I can go to town, fill up, check MPG since I filled up this AM,, ( Went to pick up a Craftsman 10" table saw & Radial arm saw & small bandsaw & some other stuff I Literally STOLe,, Got the 2 big saws for 35 bucks Each.. other stuff even cheaper.

Okay. I think I'll go for a ride. After the Kentucky Derby, The wife likes that stuff, so Ill hang & watch with her. ( If this doesnt induce a coma Ill go for a ride)
Thanks all,, Much appreciated input..

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tbalam Full Member Offline I like my kids, but I love my bike ;) Posts: 172 Fac o' the Sn Gender:	Re: MPG totally stinks, & has been lower Reply #21 - 05/05/07 at 17:14:29 justin_o_guy wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05: THIRTEE Miles? Without Whippin IT? Ahhhh ha! now we're getting to the crux of the problem
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Reply #22 - 05/05/07 at 18:09:04

Hmmm, that IS kinda telling, isn't it? Still,, 35 MPG? I am wondering if I gotr the spacer in right. Can I have put it in so it's like I took the whole thing out? Can I put it on the wrong side of the diaphragm & make it move the needle that far out of the jet? ( OHH, BTW, that 152.5 jet I've ben waiting on? ALMOST got hjere today, The envelop was torn & empty!! :'(
Has 3 red stamps on it from the Post Office. Says Received without contents at 75644 Received in damaged condition Received unsealed at 75644..

I think one woulda done it. I wonder if they are aware THEY unsealed it & LOST the ding dang jet I been waitin on?? AAARRRGGHHH! Anyone else got a 152.5 they don't need? Crummeee deal Dr.Jim. Man,, bunner all the way around. I guess one O those bubble envelopes is what it needed. I woulda done the same thing. "Im gonna send ya a couple O bux, just so you dont totally get the shaft. We can share the loss..

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justin_o_guy Ex Member	Re: MPG totally stinks, & has been lower Reply #23 - 05/05/07 at 22:28:10 Got to messin around in the garage, didnt ever go ride. Tomorrow I will ridse it to church, thats about 20 miles one way. Long runs on the loop, few stops & starts. Ill try to not wring the thing out. really..
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Reply #24 - 05/06/07 at 10:08:13

68.5 miles. 1.8 gallons. I even got passed byt an Old Woman in a Caddy! If I will ride like an old woman, I might get low 40's MPG,, not okay. I rode as easy as I coul;d stand as far as I could stand it. I even looked in the mirror when I got to 50 & the cars werent that far back, leavin a light, Didnt wind it out before zI shifted. Now, I did find it necessary to play some in the turns, BUT after I filled up I plated in one & drug the left peg nearly all the way thru it & FInally, dfidnt change my line when the peg touched down. I feel pretty certain thers something amiss, its not justme riding that hard, cuz I lighten up some & see no appreciable change.

Reel, What plug do I want? I can get 6 for next to Nothing. I might be able to save the cost in saved fuel real quick. Also,, just exactly what do I do to make best use of those plugs? Anyone?

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Reply #25 - 05/06/07 at 11:50:44

Justin, that's only 38 mpg. That's horrible! I hesitate to even suggest this, BUT.......

Take out your 155 main and put the in the 150. Ride it for a week and report back... I'd like too see if the 150 even effects your mileage.

Are you loosing gas out of a leaky gas cap? I got 38 mpg on a bike once....that was for doing a sustained 115 mph!

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petc0ck mod, white spacer removed, 150 main jet, 12.5" shocks, 16" turnout muff, oil cooler mod, chain conversion, Tkat brace, external fuel filter, fuel screen removed...

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Reply #26 - 05/06/07 at 12:36:06

The very epitome of "Suckaciousness" I am surprised it doesnt just suck the tank flat as fast is it's drinikin gas.. Grin

Oh, I I am perfectly comfortable the odometer is at least close. I am at the station very regularly. I'll go back to the 150, unless I discover Ive commited a mistake woth the whire spacer. I may have installed it wrong somehow,, Can that even be done? Other than the spacer, is there an internal; passage that can be partially obstructed thatcan cause a low MPG situation? I can imagine any GOOO doing it, but I did crack one ear off the pilot jet & never found it. Maybe its in there somewhere pluggin something?

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Reply #27 - 05/06/07 at 17:48:00

There was a moment when I was getting pretty much the sam MPG. I had Qwik Silver 38, no air box door and open HD fishtail. The bike was getting up to 100mph with semi-apes, BUT the mpg was BAAAD. Even with low speeds/around 55/, I could not get more than 40mpg.
The only good thing was that even if I kept 75-80/ no mercy /, the mpg never droped below 33mpg.

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Reply #28 - 05/06/07 at 22:00:50

justin_o_guy wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05:

Reel, What plug do I want? I can get 6 for next to Nothing. I might be able to save the cost in saved fuel real quick. Also,, just exactly what do I do to make best use of those plugs? Anyone?

Here's a list of the plugs that fit - that champion RA6HC
is what I used -
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1107534689

there's a post around some place with a link to a pretty good write up - with pictures of the plug but I can't find it

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justin_o_guy Ex Member	Re: MPG totally stinks, & has been lower Reply #29 - 05/06/07 at 22:18:08 Well, maybe someone will show up who can find that. I cant seem to drag up much in the search function. Thanks for the plug type, now I just need a clue as to what to do.
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