ye i took the clutch apart and put it back together, everythin was good, no spaces, no play between anything, spring bolts went in no problem

drunpakhtun wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:

Wait a minute...you are clouding things up.  Not even logical.

You take a clutch apart and the tranny goes to crap?  Come on.  You aren't seeing the obvious.  If the clutch is screwed, you can roll it around in gear all day long.  

Just because it doesn't look like it's in gear...How do you expect the engine to do anything if it is disconnected from the transmission?

You already said you had to muscle 2 of the release plate screws, and that's not right.  Red Flag!

You put some plates in there wrong or you messed something up.  How about the wave washer or that #1 friction plate or the spacers?

BTW - "kicking" it into gear might give you tranny problems though.

verslagen1 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:

Taking advantage of the situation?  Ha

The clutch can be a real handful to juggle around and lining everything up in the basket can be a challenge, too.  Got to get the spring seat and wave washer with the #1 friction plate in first...

Sure the plates can get hung up, but one things certain...if you have to force it together, something's wrong.

The assembly order, except the plates is shown above.  I've got one for the plates too...just haven't uploaded it yet.

I have good closeups (I think, anyway) on the CD I'm assembling...(shameless plug )

bro, the clutch is in rite, i did it twice now, everything went in smooth n lined up correctly.  
let me clear up the problem cause, i apologize if i was unclear.
it started wen i was riding i thought i heard clutch chatter, clicking sounds, then eventually the bike wouldnt go into gear.  I would put it into first let of the clutch and give it some throttle and i would roll slightly. I changed the used clutch (which didnt seem to be worn down to much but i figured its most likely the problem) and replaced it with brand new everything, did it twice just to make sure i didnt do anything wrong, and wen i gave it a go, same exact problem as before.  So now im left at the position i am now, forcing me to think  a tranny problem. i guess i'll take it apart see if anything is chewed up, bent or broken.

"i thought i heard clutch chatter, clicking sounds, then eventually the bike wouldnt go into gear.  I would put it into first let of the clutch and give it some throttle and i would roll slightly."

To me, clutch chatter is more of a on/off slight engagement/disengagement of the clutch w/o changing the lever position. Would have a feel that could create some sound alsoas it unloaded loaded the drive train parts. I'm thinking about problems others have cited over the years and one that comes to mind is the front pulley loose on the transmission output shaft. Also if the belt is way to loose it will slip over the teeth on the pulleys, that would give chattering type effect. The transmissons are pretty durable unless abused and then a worn/bent shift fork (or fork groove)  would prevent gear drive dog mesh and maybe let it try to pop ouot and then re-engage. Lets hear more from you about the original problem and what you have positively eliminated as possibilities. Max

Based on what Max said & your description of the prob, I would spend just the few minutes necessary & grab an 8mm socket & wheeel that front pulley cover off & see if the tranny output shaft is spinning in it.. Wouldnt that be the sweetest, easiest solution?

So you are saying the center is dished to one side? & if reversed, the teeth will be more toward the center of the engine & away from the clutch basket? IF it's wrong, then iot wont go together right? If thats true, then I spose I got it right, cuz its goin down the road quite nicely.. & I got lukkeeee.. Bout time!

justin_o_guy wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:


Another way of checking the correct placement of the oilpump driving gear is that when positioned incorrectly is that is does NOT drive the oilpump driven gear.