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strangeling Senior Member Offline Ex Savage Rider but always a SAVAGE Posts: 427 Salt Lake City UTAH Gender:	K & N slip in or POD air filter ? 04/09/07 at 17:18:53 Hey y'all, Just wondering which air filter is the way to go, K & N slip in or POD air filter? Is there any benefit of one over the other ? Thanks, Glenn
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tbalam Full Member Offline I like my kids, but I love my bike ;) Posts: 172 Fac o' the Sn Gender:	Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ? Reply #1 - 04/09/07 at 18:02:32 I have the cone and really like it, though you have to get used to the noise that it creates. I also had to change jet up a size.
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strangeling Senior Member Offline Ex Savage Rider but always a SAVAGE Posts: 427 Salt Lake City UTAH Gender:	Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ? Reply #2 - 04/09/07 at 19:43:00 What noise do you mean ? The air sucking sound or a louder exhaust sound ? Where did you get your cone filter ?
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Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ?
Reply #3 - 04/10/07 at 05:21:17

Here's how I looked at it. Functionally they are probably a toss-up. The upside of the cone is that you can reclaim the space occupied by the airbox. The downside is the possibility of sucking water in bad weather. I hadn't heard about any additional noise until now. I usually ride with earplugs though. Some people prefer the look of the cone. The upsides of the drop-in are installation and no problems with inclement weather. The downside is that the airbox still takes up a lot of space. If you go the drop-in route as I did, you should probably yank the snorkel too. Either one is going to lean your mixture and require adjustments which might include rejetting. I had already rejetted when I changed my exhaust and only needed to tweak it a bit.

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ? Reply #4 - 04/10/07 at 05:22:29 I like the air sucking sound
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tbalam Full Member Offline I like my kids, but I love my bike ;) Posts: 172 Fac o' the Sn Gender:	Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ? Reply #5 - 04/10/07 at 06:54:07 strangeling wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04: What noise do you mean ? The air sucking sound or a louder exhaust sound ? Where did you get your cone filter ? definately air sucking sound, especially when you wind it up. I really like it, but it takes some getting used to.
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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ? Reply #6 - 04/10/07 at 07:51:22 I've never gotten water into my carb thru a pod air filter, but I keep mine well oiled (hard to believe but true). If you go with the pod, you need to get a small filter for the breather too. It goes ABOVE the engine...
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strangeling Senior Member Offline Ex Savage Rider but always a SAVAGE Posts: 427 Salt Lake City UTAH Gender:	Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ? Reply #7 - 04/16/07 at 17:58:45 I ordered a POD filter today but where do you get the filter for the breather tube and what does it look like so I know I'm buying the right thing ?
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Bri_Fri YaBB Newbies Offline Young Gun Posts: 34 Homer, Alaska Gender:	Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ? Reply #8 - 04/17/07 at 00:16:46 Speaking of K&N slip ins I ordered one but all they sent with it was a "bracket", but the bracket has no way of attaching to the filter...???
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10663 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ? Reply #9 - 04/17/07 at 03:26:24 This may be helpful for some .... http://www.4filters.com/KN-Round-Tapered_c_15-1.html
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ? Reply #10 - 04/17/07 at 11:37:13 strangeling wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04: I ordered a POD filter today but where do you get the filter for the breather tube and what does it look like so I know I'm buying the right thing ? Looks like this.
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strangeling Senior Member Offline Ex Savage Rider but always a SAVAGE Posts: 427 Salt Lake City UTAH Gender:	Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ? Reply #11 - 04/19/07 at 21:20:04 So does the crankcase breather filter have to go up high above the engine and out the front of the tank or does it not really matter where it is located ????
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Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ?
Reply #12 - 04/19/07 at 21:39:31

strangeling wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:

So does the crankcase breather filter have to go up high above the engine and out the front of the tank or does it not really matter where it is located ????

Bear with me and don't think I'm being smart.

Think about what the breather does. It vents the crankcase.

The piston goes up and down and that causes an internal pressure change in an otherwise closed system filled with oil and metal. The piston moves up and there is a decrease in pressure, it goes down and there is an increase...when running, it happens really fast too.

As well, as the engine heats up the oil gets hot and some becomes a mist from all the spinning and banging going on.

Now if the engine were sealed, you have pressure changes and heated oil...what happens? (oil leaks)

As well, you have an engine the gets hot and cold from time to time. You get some water condensation in there too. When the water heats up...where's it gonna go? (oil leaks)

That's where the breather comes in...

Now, I'm sure that you've noticed or read that the air box drain hose has some pretty nasty gunk when you open it up. That is stuff that collects in the airbox because of the stock hose from the crankcase vent. The EPA and Al Gore want all of that nasty crap to go back in your engine and smoke out the tailpipe, but sometimes it just collects anyway.

(gee that was fun)

Anyway, I positioned mine high like you see because (and I got lucky too), it allows the crankcase to vent the pressure changes, gives off any hot vapors, and if there is any liquid stuff, it flows back down hill through the hose into the engine for another day. My filter stays pretty clean and keeps the bugs out too.

I recommend a high place but I have seen them hanging down behind the engine dripping Tongue

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ? Reply #13 - 04/19/07 at 21:47:38 PS - because I moved my horn up to the front forks, I mounted my homemade stainless steel filter bracket in one of those holes.
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tbalam Full Member Offline I like my kids, but I love my bike ;) Posts: 172 Fac o' the Sn Gender:	Re: K & N slip in or POD air filter ? Reply #14 - 04/19/07 at 21:57:33 bought my crankcase breather at autozone. It was about $10. I went to the import performance isle and bought one of the little ones there works great.
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