Rockin_John
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First, let's understand that what we are discussing is a "standard" control position and not rear-set controls. Correct?
I've been contemplating these for a long time, and have several pictures of Savages that have been converted. Unfortunatly, many that have been changed are far enough back to qualify as rear-set, and some of those have also been converted to right side shift (to simulate the Brit Cafe Racers of old). Still pretty cool, and proof that you can have the controls wherever you want them if you are willing to put the effort forth.
I don't think the described position of "up and behind the swingarm pivot" Is a viable location for mounting pegs and controls. That position is simply too high and short legged unless you wear pants with a inseam of less than 28." Yet you can't go under the frame and around the exhaust, or you would have too little lean angle before dragging. So...
The best I've been able to come up with yet, is a place just an inch or two above the rear upward bend of the two main frame loops. This would be about midway between the bottom bend and the swingarm pivot. Looks pretty easy on the right (brake side) but belt gaurd removal / modification necessary on the left (shift) side. Still looks do-able. I agree that increased seat thickness would help some with getting the bike to 'fit'. But if you measure, there is still going to be very little leg room there. I'm afraid the real answer would be to move the frame backbone up. Which would lend itself toward a needed decrease in the frame's neck angle (and rake) to make the bike's handling suitable to the new upright riding position.
I don't know, maybe sufficient work arounds could be done without major frame surgury, but I'm not sure it would look, handle, or feel right.
Just some thoughts on the subject... John
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