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Re: chain drive conversion
Reply #90 - 02/21/07 at 13:23:39

Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:

New card? Great. Let's go shoppin' Grin

Sure would like to,no card. Haven't used my old one for a couple of weeks, cause i want to pay it off with the new one. I had to make a payment for the old one cause the computers went down at the new bank for 4 days and slowed everything down on the new one. Now it's floating around somewhere in the postal system, if it isn't being used by somebody else by now. Kinda reminds me of the refinance of my house that should have been done three weeks ago. They made me an appointment to sign the papers and when I got there they didn't have all the paper work done. Reschedule. I got there yesterday and the payoff figures were all wrong. Finally get it straight and sign. I get home and in the mail is a letter saying make an appointment to sign my loan papers???? Also got the PIN number for the "non exsisting" charge card at the same time.Murphys Law aint got nothing on me.

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tbalam Full Member Offline I like my kids, but I love my bike ;) Posts: 172 Fac o' the Sn Gender:	Re: chain drive conversion Reply #91 - 02/21/07 at 15:47:20 anyone know if an 18 tooth front sprocket would fit in the savage, or would it be to big?
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Hutch Serious Thumper Offline till death do us part Posts: 1035 Birch Run, MI. U.S.A. Gender:	Re: chain drive conversion Reply #92 - 02/21/07 at 16:18:52 tbalam wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02: anyone know if an 18 tooth front sprocket would fit in the savage, or would it be to big? Don't really know. They list one for a gs550, but don't know about fit on Savage.
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tbalam Full Member Offline I like my kids, but I love my bike ;) Posts: 172 Fac o' the Sn Gender:	Re: chain drive conversion Reply #93 - 02/21/07 at 17:44:46 I am going to ask JT sprockets for the out diameter of the 17 and 18 tooth fronts to see if they fit. I am thinking an 18/45 ratio might be a good combo, giving a ratio of 2.50. I am also hoping to find a high friction clutch and will change to tighter springs no matter what. any thoughts?
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smokin_blue Serious Thumper Offline From Cafes to Streetfighters! I build them all! Posts: 830 St. Paul, MN Gender:	Re: chain drive conversion Reply #94 - 02/21/07 at 18:08:24 I will check my catalogs...I know you can get those domestically.
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Re: chain drive conversion
Reply #95 - 02/21/07 at 18:10:44

tbalam wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:

I am going to ask JT sprockets for the out diameter of the 17 and 18 tooth fronts to see if they fit. I am thinking an 18/45 ratio might be a good combo, giving a ratio of 2.50. I am also hoping to find a high friction clutch and will change to tighter springs no matter what.

any thoughts?

I was think of the same thing, but I figured the German kit had the 17 for a reason,no room maybe????I don't know if you can get a better clutch,I imagine you can, but I know LANCER can get heavier springs. Lancer would be the one to ask.

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tbalam Full Member Offline I like my kids, but I love my bike ;) Posts: 172 Fac o' the Sn Gender:	Re: chain drive conversion Reply #96 - 02/21/07 at 18:50:00 I emailed them about an hour ago, so i'll let you all know what they say. Oh and any idea how long of a 530 chain to get?
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Hutch Serious Thumper Offline till death do us part Posts: 1035 Birch Run, MI. U.S.A. Gender:	Re: chain drive conversion Reply #97 - 02/21/07 at 19:12:42 tbalam wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02: I emailed them about an hour ago, so i'll let you all know what they say. Oh and any idea how long of a 530 chain to get? I don't have a clue, I figure I'll just buy a super long one and shorten it, if I ever get the gears.
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Re: chain drive conversion
Reply #98 - 02/21/07 at 19:28:25

I went and took some measurements...I predict that a sprocket with the same number of teeth (530 chain) will fit on the front of the Savage as the current pulley. They have the same pitch, so a 20 tooth front SHOULD fit with no problem whatsoever. I don't know why the
German kit only has a 17-tooth front but I'm about ready to buy a couple sprockets just to prove my theory Grin

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Re: chain drive conversion
Reply #99 - 02/21/07 at 19:33:20

HUTCH HOLD THE PHONE!!!!!!!!!!

hey someone needs to rip a rear pully off and measure it.!!!!!!!!

There are two suzuki sprockets used in the late 70's early 80's one is for spoked which has been the topic of discussion with a 64mm hole and 84 mm bolt circle diameter. The other one is for mag rims with a 76mm hole and a 100mm bolt circle.

I just dug up my notes and they indicate from past measurements (wheel and pulley on the bike) the savage would be a 76mm hole with a 100mm bolt circle.
THIS NEEDS TO BE CONFIRMED BY SOMEONE. I just don't have time to rip mine apart right now.

That said here is the good news. Both Dennis kirk and parts unlimited carry a large selection (parts unlimited is larger) of JT sprockets.

Better yet it appears if the 76mm/100mm is true than there is a HUGE selection of sprockets available for you.

If I can find the time tomorrow morning I can block my bike up and rip off the rear wheel and settle this once and for all.

Let me know if you want me to. (PS my wrenching time is from 4:30am to 6am so let me know tonight if you get this)

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Re: chain drive conversion
Reply #100 - 02/21/07 at 19:43:47

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There are two suzuki sprockets used in the late 70's early 80's one is for spoked which has been the topic of discussion with a 64mm hole and 84 mm bolt circle diameter. The other one is for mag rims with a 76mm hole and a 100mm bolt circle.

That would be good news. I don't think you'll need to do any wrenching to find this out, I'll head out and take some measurements now...

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barry68v10 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 955 Maryland Gender:	Re: chain drive conversion Reply #101 - 02/21/07 at 19:48:49 CONFIRMED!!! 100mm bolt circle. I guess that IS good news. Hutch, look at the cast rim sprockets and take your pick
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Re: chain drive conversion
Reply #102 - 02/21/07 at 20:21:06

barry68v10 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:

CONFIRMED!!! 100mm bolt circle. I guess that IS good news.

Hutch, look at the cast rim sprockets and take your pick Grin

Well that is good news. So what I'm gathering now is that you need a gs550 front sprocket(both allan and smokin_blue said that) and a gs550 back, but for a cast wheel, not a spoked wheel like some one said. I know that JT listed the spoke wheel as 84mm bolt circle. I would have been bummed if I would have ordered the ones for the spoke wheel and only the front would have fit. Thanks a bunch!!!

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Re: chain drive conversion
Reply #103 - 02/21/07 at 20:41:08

smokin_blue wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:

HUTCH HOLD THE PHONE!!!!!!!!!!

hey someone needs to rip a rear pully off and measure it.!!!!!!!!

There are two suzuki sprockets used in the late 70's early 80's one is for spoked which has been the topic of discussion with a 64mm hole and 84 mm bolt circle diameter. The other one is for mag rims with a 76mm hole and a 100mm bolt circle.

I just dug up my notes and they indicate from past measurements (wheel and pulley on the bike) the savage would be a 76mm hole with a 100mm bolt circle.
THIS NEEDS TO BE CONFIRMED BY SOMEONE. I just don't have time to rip mine apart right now.

That said here is the good news. Both Dennis kirk and parts unlimited carry a large selection (parts unlimited is larger) of JT sprockets.

Better yet it appears if the 76mm/100mm is true than there is a HUGE selection of sprockets available for you.

If I can find the time tomorrow morning I can block my bike up and rip off the rear wheel and settle this once and for all.

Let me know if you want me to. (PS my wrenching time is from 4:30am to 6am so let me know tonight if you get this)

smokin_blue, don't tear your bike apart, it has been confirmed. Savage has the 76mm hole and 100mm bolt pattern. Thank you for the offer and all the help. Much appreciated.

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: chain drive conversion Reply #104 - 02/21/07 at 21:57:20 So that picture that I got from the JT site was wrong at 84 mm?
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