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Reply #75 - 02/20/07 at 15:31:08
 
The down side of a larger sprocket is a higher price and requires a much longer chain.  

But then a longer chain wears slower.  And then a larger sprocket also wears slower.

I wonder if anyone has ever busted their case with a broken chain.
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Reply #76 - 02/20/07 at 19:16:15
 
Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:
Well, as you know, this time of year is wet all the time.  But the summer sure will be great Smiley


Yes Greg I remember Washington well, when I took basic training in late Jan --- Feb. The land of R&R(not what you think) I believe it stood for ROCKS AND RAIN. That was my spin on it anyway..    

Man Greg I just realized that alzheimers kicks in at around 56 years old. You live in Oregon if I remember right, this time. DAAAA!!!!! I love Portland, do they still have all those parks all over town???
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Reply #77 - 02/20/07 at 21:03:19
 
Hutch wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:
Yes Greg I remember Washington well, when I took basic training in late Jan --- Feb. The land of R&R(not what you think) I believe it stood for ROCKS AND RAIN. That was my spin on it anyway..    

Man Greg I just realized that alzheimers kicks in at around 56 years old. You live in Oregon if I remember right, this time. DAAAA!!!!! I love Portland, do they still have all those parks all over town???


Yep.  Portland is covered with parks.  There is a lot of places for outdoor activities.  Walking paths and most streets have bicycle lanes.  We're in the rainy season right now which lasts about 5 months.  After that it is mostly dry and mild and green.

All of Oregon isn't like this though.  We are west of the Cascades.  Here it is like a rain forest, but to the east is the high desert and it is a completely different world.  It's part of what's left of the wild west out that way.

Portland is a pleasant city to look at and visit...but there are social/political issues about it that we don't like.  So, we are moving across the river to Washington State in the near future.

Oldtimers Disease?  I'll be 57 in April Smiley
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Reply #78 - 02/21/07 at 08:10:45
 
Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:
Yep.  Portland is covered with parks.  There is a lot of places for outdoor activities.  Walking paths and most streets have bicycle lanes.  We're in the rainy season right now which lasts about 5 months.  After that it is mostly dry and mild and green.

All of Oregon isn't like this though.  We are west of the Cascades.  Here it is like a rain forest, but to the east is the high desert and it is a completely different world.  It's part of what's left of the wild west out that way.

Portland is a pleasant city to look at and visit...but there are social/political issues about it that we don't like.  So, we are moving across the river to Washington State in the near future.

Oldtimers Disease?  I'll be 57 in April Smiley


Well it's good to know that Portland still has all those parks. I went there on a weekend pass from Ft. Lewis WA. in 1771. I figured by now the parks had a been turned into strip malls or some such stupid crap. I'll be 56 in May.
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Reply #79 - 02/21/07 at 08:13:30
 
Hutch wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:
... I went there on a weekend pass from Ft. Lewis WA. in 1771...


You certainly have my respect.  Thank you for your service Tongue
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Reply #80 - 02/21/07 at 09:04:23
 
Well I guess bikebandit aint gonna solve my search for sprockets. I can't believe all they have is the stock 50 tooth. They got a bunch of front, and one back, and thats a OEM, how stupid!!.What was it you were saying about the " fickle finger of fate " Greg?? My son even asked me "Why is it that you can't ever find something when you want it? Aslong as I can remember that is the way it goes for you"  I just tell him that is the reason I fabricate most everything myself, and that if it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. That's why I always hope for the best, but plan on the worst. You don't get disappointed that way. Looks like I go with the 16/41. I just will have to keep looking, and hope for the best. Narrowing it down to steel doesn't make it any easier, but aluminum stinks.
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Reply #81 - 02/21/07 at 09:56:08
 
Hutch,
I have been trying to follow your direction here but take a look at my previously suggested JT sprockets site.

here is the stock GS550
http://www.jtsprockets.com/52.0.html?&L=0&sel_uid=4789&p=

These are available in
Front sprocket available in: 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 teeth

Rear sprocket available in: 33, 34, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50 teeth

The stock 50 is found on

http://www.jtsprockets.com/61.0.html?&L=0&sel_artnr=JTR814,50

If you want a 44 that also is stock for the following

http://www.jtsprockets.com/61.0.html?&L=0&sel_artnr=JTR814,44

If you want to find any other tooth number and what it was stock on go to that last link and click on the dark bold tooth counts and that will take you to a listing of all suzuki's it was used on.

Actually here is the grand list will all stock listings for that 530 sprocket design.

http://www.jtsprockets.com/61.0.html?&L=0&sel_artnr=JTR814,34

If you can't find a dealer let me know because I know I have at least one catalog at home with JT sprockets listed in it.

Lastly if you don't like these, Sprocket Secialists will make any tooth count you want in either the dreaded aluminum or good old steel.  

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Reply #82 - 02/21/07 at 10:28:38
 
These are interesting.  Has anyone actually measured the bolt pattern diameter on the Savage pulley?

I'll do it if we need to...
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Reply #83 - 02/21/07 at 11:34:15
 
smokin_blue, thanks!! i just went to their site and found what I want(17/44). They don't have any prices??? At least they are made of high carbon steel and chrome molly for the front. I sent them a ...."querry" by e-mail to find out if the 1980 gs550ET spoke wheel sprockets will fit on a Savage. If anybody knows, they should. I told them I can come up with spacers to line up the sprockets. If they work I also asked for prices. Got my fingers crossed, and waiting for an e-mail back with the answer. Thanks again for the info!!! Hutch
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Reply #84 - 02/21/07 at 11:49:05
 
About the busted cases:
I just finished working on a 2000 R6. The guy had it for sale pretty cheap. I went there and saw brand spankin' new Regina chain with brand spankin' new set of sprockets.  The bike had steel braided brake lines, Micron exhaust and bunch of small improvements. Everything seemed pretty suspicious, so I started looking harder and there it was- big blab of JB weld above the fr. sprocket. I showed this to the guy and of course he had no idea, but he was nice enough to drop the price lower and we got a deal. Yesterday I spent the day havving the case welded and today I went for a ride. Thank You lazy bum for not changing the chain !
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Reply #85 - 02/21/07 at 11:57:53
 
Hutch wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:
smokin_blue, thanks!! i just went to their site and found what I want(17/44). They don't have any prices??? At least they are made of high carbon steel and chrome molly for the front. I sent them a ...."querry" by e-mail to find out if the 1980 gs550ET spoke wheel sprockets will fit on a Savage. If anybody knows, they should. I told them I can come up with spacers to line up the sprockets. If they work I also asked for prices. Got my fingers crossed, and waiting for an e-mail back with the answer. Thanks again for the info!!! Hutch


I swear to God some things never change, like my luck. Just got an e-mail back from JT and they said they never had anyone ask that before and haven't got a clue. No prices either. Good grief!!!I guess I'll e-mail them back and ask for the price anyway. Allen says they will work, if not I'll have to fly to Manchester, England and try some black pudding I guess. The only problem with that is that I'll be in the same country as Gillian Anderson(x-files Dana Scully) and get put in jail for Stalking. Then they will probably send me to a prison in Ireland and I'd have break out and fall in love several times with those red headed maidens over there.
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Reply #86 - 02/21/07 at 12:23:18
 
slavy wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:
About the busted cases:
I just finished working on a 2000 R6. The guy had it for sale pretty cheap. I went there and saw brand spankin' new Regina chain with brand spankin' new set of sprockets.  The bike had steel braided brake lines, Micron exhaust and bunch of small improvements. Everything seemed pretty suspicious, so I started looking harder and there it was- big blab of JB weld above the fr. sprocket. I showed this to the guy and of course he had no idea, but he was nice enough to drop the price lower and we got a deal. Yesterday I spent the day havving the case welded and today I went for a ride. Thank You lazy bum for not changing the chain !


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Reply #87 - 02/21/07 at 12:27:35
 
Hutch wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:

I swear to God some things never change, like my luck. Just got an e-mail back from JT and they said they never had anyone ask that before and haven't got a clue. No prices either. Good grief!!!I guess I'll e-mail them back and ask for the price anyway. Allen says they will work, if not I'll have to fly to Manchester, England and try some black pudding I guess. The only problem with that is that I'll be in the same country as Gillian Anderson(x-files Dana Scully) and get put in jail for Stalking. Then they will probably send me to a prison in Ireland and I'd have break out and fall in love several times with those red headed maidens over there.


Sounds like loads of fun.....  I recommend that you fly Jet Blue while you're at it 8)

Anyway, why not use this picture and go out and measure your bolt pattern, first  Tongue

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Reply #88 - 02/21/07 at 13:05:38
 
Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:
Sounds like loads of fun.....  I recommend that you fly Jet Blue while you're at it 8)

Anyway, why not use this picture and go out and measure your bolt pattern, first  Tongue

http://www.jtsprockets.com/fileadmin/Code/images/large/jtr814.jpg


Yup, Jet Blue would be my first choice. Why change my luck now. I'd use the drawing and measure my sprocket to see, but it's so dark in my living room I can't find my bike....you know what I mean Greg!!! I just e-mailed JT again and they are going to send me a price for the sprockets to my door. All I have to do is get the spacer and a long piece of 530 chain. Oh, and wait for the new charge card that was sent to me 2 weeks ago and I haven't recieved yet. Hey they did send me a PIN nunber for the "phantom" card though. GO figure.
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Reply #89 - 02/21/07 at 13:08:42
 
Hutch wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:


Yup, Jet Blue would be my first choice. Why change my luck now. I'd use the drawing and measure my sprocket to see, but it's so dark in my living room I can't find my bike....you know what I mean Greg!!! I just e-mailed JT again and they are going to send me a price for the sprockets to my door. All I have to do is get the spacer and a long piece of 530 chain. Oh, and wait for the new charge card that was sent to me 2 weeks ago and I haven't recieved yet. Hey they did send me a PIN nunber for the "phantom" card though. GO figure.


New card?  Great.  Let's go shoppin' Grin
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