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Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc
Reply #45 - 02/10/07 at 07:16:13

vroom1776 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:

the germ. schematic looks good, but they have 6 wires too! I just asked my room mate to count. he counted 5 on mine! Now i am soooo confused! Greg, does yours only have 5 wires?

I'll check....

Got it...

Remember what I said about the engineers on crack? There are 5 wires coming out of the rectifier, but they neglect to show that the red wire splits at the connector and becomes R/B and O/B.

That's why following the schematic alone isn't always good enough. You'll find other color changes at the other end of the harness going to the front end too Tongue

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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #46 - 02/10/07 at 07:31:16 Vroomette's 98 clearly only has 5 wires. the three yellow, the groun, and the red/balck.
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #47 - 02/10/07 at 07:46:34 vroom1776 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02: Vroomette's 98 clearly only has 5 wires. the three yellow, the groun, and the red/balck. No O/B at all? Anywhere?
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Reply #48 - 02/10/07 at 08:08:29

Not on the rectifier proper. There is a O/B wire coming out of the connector on the that goes to the rest of the wiring harness, as well as the R/B & B/W. But where it goes to the rect, it is just a dead end.

In the factory service manual, the first page or so has a schematic with the mag, rect, bat, and ign switch. In essence, it shows the two hot leads coming out of the rect sorted to the hot on the battery.

thanks for the pic & comments, greg. I'll stop freakin' out now.

Yeah, those engineers did something screwy! crack alone may not be enough... maybe some LSD?

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #49 - 02/10/07 at 08:10:34 That's what I thought. It's not a dead end, it's a fork in the road
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #50 - 02/10/07 at 09:03:48 I've seen this before. It means there was at least 2 engineers working on the bike and they hated each other. Been there, done that...
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Reply #51 - 03/12/07 at 13:14:05

update:

The new wiring harness works... I left an extra lead on there for an old style rect just in case. I've posted two diagrams below. the top is for rectifiers w/ 6 wires, the second is for rects with 5 wires. I will say, though, that I haev not tried it with a 6 wire rectifier, but I am 99% sure it will work.

Anyone think these diagrams should go in the tech sect?

6 wire (old style) rectifier:

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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #52 - 03/12/07 at 13:15:29 5 wire (new style) rectifier: okay, the link won't work, here's the url: http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g152/vroom1776/Simplfied_parts6_5wire_rect.jpg
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #53 - 03/12/07 at 18:07:32 vroom1776 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03: update: Anyone think these diagrams should go in the tech sect? 6 wire (old style) rectifier: http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g152/vroom1776/Simplfied_parts6.jpg Only if the bike runs
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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #54 - 03/13/07 at 08:58:41 it wants to run... have spark, decomp, and starter motor... no fuel... will fix this PM... fuel gets to float bowl... it started for a bit on Sat, until I turned it off... so I have compression...
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #55 - 03/13/07 at 09:00:29 vroom1776 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03: it wants to run... have spark, decomp, and starter motor... no fuel... will fix this PM... fuel gets to float bowl... it started for a bit on Sat, until I turned it off... so I have compression... Interesting. Keep at it...
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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #56 - 03/14/07 at 07:58:54 idle adjust screw was too far out seems to run great... now I just need to get the clutch perch welded back on... Thanks to all who helped me in this thread (and all the others...)
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #57 - 03/14/07 at 08:37:32 vroom1776 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03: idle adjust screw was too far out seems to run great... now I just need to get the clutch perch welded back on... Thanks to all who helped me in this thread (and all the others...) Does this deserve another question?
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Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc
Reply #58 - 03/14/07 at 10:56:02

which part?

let's see... I'm gonna guess it is about why the clutch perch needs to go back on... well... it came off... while the engine was on the floor, somebody (most likely me while drunk), knocked the engine over and it snapped off. Took it to the best machine shop in town, they told me to just make a bracket out of angle iron and bolt it down with the speedo drive thread part. I got an M16 nut that fit, and they are welding a cap on... so that is my project for tonight (maybe tomorrow as Vroomette will be in town tonight...)

but... I could have also meant, all the other threads where I'm all panicky and everyone chimes in with good ideas....

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Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc
Reply #59 - 03/14/07 at 11:03:38

vroom1776 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:

which part?

let's see... I'm gonna guess it is about why the clutch perch needs to go back on... well... it came off... while the engine was on the floor, somebody (most likely me while drunk), knocked the engine over and it snapped off. Took it to the best machine shop in town, they told me to just make a bracket out of angle iron and bolt it down with the speedo drive thread part. I got an M16 nut that fit, and they are welding a cap on... so that is my project for tonight (maybe tomorrow as Vroomette will be in town tonight...)

but... I could have also meant, all the other threads where I'm all panicky and everyone chimes in with good ideas....

That's funny.

That's exactly what I wondered...and I think I was fairly justified, too. A broken clutch perch is a new one for this forum. Just the visual of the engine getting knocked around the floor is rather humorous. Crap happens though. Mmmmm....Beeerrr Tongue

Thanks.

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