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Reply #15 - 02/08/07 at 11:52:17

wow! that's cool! and now looking at some otehr pics of yr bike, I see I've missed that trick feature in the past...

If I ever do the jockey shift, I'll have to do what you did to the right side...

So, back to the removing the decomp contoller, solenoid, and starter relay... This is something I would like to do, but again, not right now. But do you (anyone) know how to do this? making the lever would be relatively easy... but taking care of the rest might be tricky... and as I stare at my second diagram more, I think it's wrong...

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Reply #17 - 02/08/07 at 12:38:47

The manual ones that I used on dirt bikes worked by bleeding a little combustion chamber pressure before kicking it over. They were 2 strokes, but I don't see why it wouldn't work here. Just remember that the first click you hear when starting the Savage is the decomp solenoid.

I think that all you'd have to do is get a small aftermarket lever and a universal cable from some place like JC Whitney. Then using the existing actuator and spring you tinker with the adjustment to open the exhaust valve a small amount as you push the starter button.

Pull the lever, start and let go. I think I'd put the lever on the right side, too.

Of course you want to remove the solenoid too.

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SAMM Serious Thumper Offline No lay down crotch rocket for me Posts: 576 Portland Oregon Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #18 - 02/08/07 at 13:09:06 The Suzuki 80-81 GN 400 single 4 stroke has a lever to start it... It is mounted on the left side of the bars... But could go on either...
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Reply #19 - 02/08/07 at 13:22:06

the lever souldn't be the problem. I think you need to run the starter switch between the battery and the starter motor, with a short to the ignitor, as below. Now.... where does anyone find a spst switch rated for 30A? this seems like it should fry the ignitor, but that is already the way it is wired, from the factory, more or less. maybe add a fuse in there...

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Max_Morley Serious Thumper Offline LT650 Luxury Touring & sidecar rig Posts: 1490 Moses Lake. WA Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #20 - 02/08/07 at 14:17:47 I'd lose that single wire from the tail light as in the US it only serves to run down the battery when used accidently. Max
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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #21 - 02/08/07 at 14:19:40 You mean in "park?" prolly a good idea!
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barry68v10 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 955 Maryland Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #22 - 02/08/07 at 15:05:15 Quote: I'd lose that single wire from the tail light as in the US it only serves to run down the battery Yes, I can see how that would be a very effective "battery discharge device"
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Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc
Reply #23 - 02/08/07 at 15:31:21

SAMM wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:

The Suzuki 80-81 GN 400 single 4 stroke has a lever to start it... It is mounted on the left side of the bars... But could go on either...

My thinking was that if he wanted to start it in gear, that he's need his left hand for the clutch. Seemed possible that he could use the right and push the starter button at the same time...he said he's gonna get rid of the front brake too.

I don't know though.

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Reply #24 - 02/08/07 at 15:34:31

vroom1776 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:

the lever souldn't be the problem. I think you need to run the starter switch between the battery and the starter motor, with a short to the ignitor, as below. Now.... where does anyone find a spst switch rated for 30A? this seems like it should fry the ignitor, but that is already the way it is wired, from the factory, more or less. maybe add a fuse in there...

I don't think you'll find a decent switch like that. Besides, you need bigger terminals. I'd keep the starter relay.

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #25 - 02/08/07 at 15:36:10 barry68v10 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02: Yes, I can see how that would be a very effective "battery discharge device" I took mine to the dealer for it's initial service, and when I went to pick it up, I got a new battery because they left the taillight on
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Reply #26 - 02/08/07 at 15:51:41

I'll prolly go back to a front brake at some point. Right now I just took it off to give to my father. He bought USGCerams' bike, which had a seized caliper. I've been praciticing using the rear only on Vroomette's savage. Seems okay... I'll probably end up with a sport bike 4-piston caliper (if I can find one that'll fit, or one I can make fit) and one of those little plastic MCs that weigh 4oz...

I imagine mounting the decomp lever on the left handlebar, dirtbike style

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Reply #27 - 02/09/07 at 02:10:59

See you stripped the electricals down to the bare minimum, think that will work. As for the decomp lever , you could even extent the lever in the head, bent it 90 degrees and operate it with your left hand.
Have found a German site of some guys that stripped their bike back to the essentials.

http://www.savage-extrem.de/index2.html

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Reply #28 - 02/09/07 at 08:15:52

some cool ones bikes on there for sure... one of em looks super charged...

now, if I could read German... or pay Krops to trasnlate full time!

yeah, there are sooo many splices in there.. So far it looks like I can use most of the stock connectors... found the wires I need to short and install the new start switch.

this is the final wiring diagram I will use until I remove the decomp stuff...

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Max_Morley Serious Thumper Offline LT650 Luxury Touring & sidecar rig Posts: 1490 Moses Lake. WA Gender:	Re: Removing Side Stand Interlock & Kill Switc Reply #29 - 02/09/07 at 08:18:33 FWIW, need to fuse the light circuits in case a wire gets pinched, could burn up the whole project !! Max
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