mavrik wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:

It has... a lot  Do a search.

gas, i get it after i eat at taco bell,

paper or plastic


roll on or spray


tuna or well tuna

brownies  frosted or not.

this list is endless, lets add this disscusion to the end of it.  

mavrik wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:


Its a low compression engine. 87 octane is the consensus. Maybe lancer would benefit from higher octane with his internal mods to the engine. Those of us just using bolt on mods need nothing out of the ordinary. Let us never speak of this again.

I'm not getting involved with the low/high debate here, other than to say I'm confused about one thing not really tied to Savages.

I read somewhere on site that maybe higher octane would be good in hotter climes in summer (where I am). however on one of those "how you can weather out the winter" features they do on local news when there isn't any real news they suggested using higher octane in the colder weather we get for the odd few days in the winter here.

so who is right on that one - do water cooled vehicles such as cars need higher octane in low temps & air cooled need higher octane in higher temps or what?

OK - I will say sometimes I put lower octane in Savage, sometimes higher - no real reason but for extra few cents I think what the hey (always higher in BMW - they say to do it - & always lower in little Suzuki Samurai "jeep" I drive)

sometimes I remember to put some fuel additive in (not expensive - it came in big bottle) both the Savage & Samurai (it is an '87).

Incidently - how many people ride a two wheeled & drive a four wheeled Suzuki, both names starting with S?  

The point is that higher temps reduce the compression required for preignition.  Higher octane would raise the compression needed for possible preignition and more than counter the effect of the heat.  Some of us who regularly get triple-digit temps and ride in city traffic feel it's a good way to hedge our bets.

that's generally what I do - or really watch what kind of fuel I use in the summer - shell93 and the rest of the time just whatever - and for the same reason I pour in synthc motorcycle oil 20w-50 summer and change it often - keep an eye on the oil temp gauge when idle'n around in hot traffic, much over 100C and I'll parkit for awhile, if it goes over 110c I'll change the oil soon.

I'm too scared of aluminum worms