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jmerry
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Belt Pulley
09/27/06 at 14:04:12
 
Does anyone know if there is a larger belt pulley available for the LS650?  This would "gear up" the bike slightly and allow for higher speeds with lower RPM's.  I've seen the sprocket changed out on chain driven dirt bikes to acheive this.  It would seem to be an easy mod if anyone had fabricated one and marketed it.  

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Re: Belt Pulley
Reply #1 - 09/27/06 at 14:46:45
 
jmerry wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:09:
Does anyone know if there is a larger belt pulley available for the LS650?  This would "gear up" the bike slightly and allow for higher speeds with lower RPM's.  I've seen the sprocket changed out on chain driven dirt bikes to acheive this.  It would seem to be an easy mod if anyone had fabricated one and marketed it.  

You want a smaller rear sprocket or a larger front sprocket. No I don't know of any being made. It would be a very good mod to have manufactured. Perhaps something from a different model Suzuki would fit ? ? ?
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Reply #2 - 09/27/06 at 15:49:55
 
Either way would work, although the front drive pulley would be much easier.   The only limitation would be room in the crank case housing, but there seems to be ample.  It just seems to be a simple mechanical solution to a bike with LOTS of low end torque, but limitations on the top end due to high RPM's.  Does anyone know if Dynobobs solution would work?  Has anyone tried another bike's drive pulley?  I'm dying to know if this would work or has been tried..

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Re: Belt Pulley
Reply #3 - 09/27/06 at 17:56:05
 
1 tooth front = 3 teeth rear
if you ever find any get me one too!!!
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Re: Belt Pulley
Reply #4 - 09/27/06 at 22:18:59
 
Even if you manage to find the pulley mod, you will need a small diameter belt Shocked Another mod  Roll Eyes just to lower RPM.
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Re: Belt Pulley
Reply #5 - 09/27/06 at 22:52:16
 
For a bigger front pulley, anybody did the calculation, howe mutch bigger in dia. and howe many teth for 8-10 % change in RPM?
For a little bigger front pulley you can always move the rear tire forward in the svingarm.
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Re: Belt Pulley
Reply #6 - 09/28/06 at 03:39:27
 
On My KLX I went from a 43 to a 46 which dropped top speed from 107 to 100, much better acceleration.

Seems you guys want to go the other way.

How many teeth on your pulleys, front and rear ?

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Reply #7 - 09/28/06 at 05:42:52
 
That's right.  A larger front drive pulley, or a smaller rear.  The difference needed to the belt could be made up by moving the wheel forward slightly in the swing arm.  

Not sure about the number of teeth on either pulley.  I wonder if an HD pulley would work?  I don't think there's another Suzuki bike that uses a belt drive.
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Re: Belt Pulley
Reply #8 - 09/28/06 at 07:49:11
 
jmerry wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:09:
Either way would work, although the front drive pulley would be much easier.   The only limitation would be room in the crank case housing, but there seems to be ample.  

I doubt you could fit a larger front pulley. It is so tight in there, you have to remove the pulley just to remove the belt . Plus don't forget the belt will swell due to centrifugal force.
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Re: Belt Pulley
Reply #9 - 09/28/06 at 07:57:41
 
The rear pulley on a Savage has 68 teeth, 23 up front.  HD's have a 65 tooth pulley but the bolt pattern is different.  It should not be difficult to take one to a machine shop and have new holes drilled to match the Savage, and it would also probably need to have a bearing insert pressed in to match the axle size on the Savage.  Easy stuff for a machine shop.
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Reply #10 - 09/28/06 at 08:08:34
 
Mmm.. Then that would leave a smaller rear pulley.  Any of those around?
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Re: Belt Pulley
Reply #11 - 09/28/06 at 08:58:13
 
I still think the answer is a smaller primary drive sprocket on the right side of the transmission, with a correspondingly shorter primary drive chain.
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Re: Belt Pulley
Reply #12 - 09/28/06 at 09:04:17
 
Most HD belts are not as wide as ours, though.
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Re: Belt Pulley
Reply #13 - 09/28/06 at 09:58:26
 
I just went to a 90 profile tire to get a little gearing.  Tight fit on a stocker, but I have 12.5" shocks.
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Re: Belt Pulley
Reply #14 - 09/28/06 at 10:11:14
 
90 profile gives 4.6% more speed for the same engine revs.

Going from a 68 to a 65 (if possible) tooth rear pulley also gives 4.6% more speed for the same revs.

The two together gives 9.4%.

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