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babbalou Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 814 Lewisville, Texas Gender:	Re: How fast do you think... Reply #45 - 06/25/06 at 11:22:09 I've wondered how much cooler the oil would be if the header pipe didn't run right in front of the crankcase, where that scooped out place is. Not that I've had overheating issues on my stock engine, just considering longevity.
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Reply #46 - 06/25/06 at 18:47:47

This is the type of filter I was thinking of using...two verions available...the pics and prices are from Jireh Cycles catalog. (www.jirehcycles.com) They have the best deals anywhere.

If the measurements work out I want to use the V version for my bike.

Parallel version... $49.95 ... part # 73-50

V version ... $59.95 ... part # 73-55

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Reply #47 - 06/26/06 at 05:45:23

Aye, I like the Vee better, but it's not adjustable at all for angle's sake. Seems it would be horrible to spend a chunk of change on it and find out it doesn't line up all pretty like it is in the picture.

Still a capital idea, as the Brits might say.

So're you gonna do it?

*Starsky and Hutch voice* "Doooo it!"

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Reply #48 - 06/26/06 at 06:09:11

Hey check this out...what the heck? Sorta looks like it might be an oil-cooling device a'la Jerry's idea.

http://www.ls-650.de/cpg132/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=455

This coming from a German photo directory. The Germans are hardcore about their Savages. Some very good ideas are coming from over there.

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Reply #49 - 06/26/06 at 06:16:04

It all depends on the money. With the trip to Oklahoma for my brothers funeral, an untimely death of a kitchen appliance that needed to be replaced, a badly behaving septic system that needs attention, and a few other odds and ends ... plus trying to get stuff together for the Strugis ride ... it just makes it hard to carve out the money for the extra things I want to do.

I pulled out my Jireh catalog...page 8-76...

The parallel cooler is:

Length 9"
width 3 3/4"
Tube dia. 1 1/8"

V Version

Top to bottom 10 1/2"
Top width 4 1/8"
Tube dia. 1 1/8"
**No dimension given for bottom width

Banger wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:06:

Aye, I like the Vee better, but it's not adjustable at all for angle's sake. Seems it would be horrible to spend a chunk of change on it and find out it doesn't line up all pretty like it is in the picture.

Still a capital idea, as the Brits might say.

So're you gonna do it?

*Starsky and Hutch voice* "Doooo it!"

Regards,
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Reply #50 - 06/26/06 at 14:38:16

I'm back... Stupid work! Takes up all my time...!
Lancer, THX for the info! Any sort of tranny-oil cooler could be adapted to the engine, as long as it doesn't restrict flow any. I think since the engine is a roller bearing design, it doesn't run at very high oil pressure. This really opens up posibilities.... Oil light, cooler, better filter.... Again, Lancer THX for the info. Now just need to find a place to mount a filter down there....

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Reply #51 - 06/26/06 at 19:19:00

All in a day's work ... you are welcome.

By the way, if your job is getting in the way of doing more important things like riding and wrenching on the bike, then you may need to do the thing and retire early. I retired early, though it was not my idea at the time it has worked out fairly well. I went in to work one day with some paperwork the doc gave me and they told me to go home and not to come back. One of those "it's been nice knowing you but get the ____ out of here", and there I was. That was about 15 years ago.

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Reply #52 - 06/26/06 at 19:43:16

Crud, I'll bet it was panic-city when you heard that. I'm glad it's working out for you.
I wonder what the thinking was behind those oil passage/ports? There's a passage that connects the two; but I don't think it'd affect much in the way of cooling, but for full-oil filtering, that passage would have to be blocked to force ALL the oil thru the remote filter.
Also, to save pace, if a remote auto spin-on filter was used, that would increase the cooling surface also. An oil cooler might not be needed.
This really opens up possibilities....

It's on my "tinker with" list.

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Reply #53 - 06/27/06 at 04:43:28

Today I talked to a man with a single cylinder Marauder 250cc. I asked him what is the top speed his bike can go. He answered 'about 120km/h'. darn! Mine is 400cc and the top speed is 100km/h. I don't want to drive fast but sometimes a 120-130km/h would be great. On highways EVERY little rollcagers overtakes me Sad

So, why is that big difference?

P.s.: I searched for that bike on bikepics.com. It was a GZ 250.
It is such a shame Savage is slower... Embarrassed

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911radioman Ex Member	Re: How fast do you think... Reply #54 - 06/27/06 at 06:18:08 Well, I used to own a GZ and top end on mine was about 82 and it took it a while to get to that 82 as well.
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Lion Full Member Offline Posts: 101 Budapest, Hungary Gender:	Re: How fast do you think... Reply #55 - 06/27/06 at 06:36:35 82 km/h or 82 mph (which is 132 km/h)? If it is 82 km/h with a 250cc then what the Savage 400cc's top speed should be? At least 120 km/h (75 mph) as I think.
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Reply #56 - 06/27/06 at 09:41:17

Lion wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:06:

82 km/h or 82 mph (which is 132 km/h)?

If it is 82 km/h with a 250cc then what the Savage 400cc's top speed should be? At least 120 km/h (75 mph) as I think.

Last year I drove a 1985 Honda Rebel 250 and on a long enough stretch, and if I pedalled really really hard, I could hit 120 km/hr. My step son has the bike now, and he can do that as well. I've had the Savage there too - there's likely more, but I don't want it.

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911radioman Ex Member	Re: How fast do you think... Reply #57 - 06/27/06 at 09:45:32 Lion wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:06: 82 km/h or 82 mph (which is 132 km/h)? If it is 82 km/h with a 250cc then what the Savage 400cc's top speed should be? At least 120 km/h (75 mph) as I think. 82 mph. I don't do kph.
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Reply #58 - 06/27/06 at 11:04:55

911radioman wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:06:

82 mph. I don't do kph. Grin

Never mind I CAN convert it to kmh Wink

Anyway it is really great from a 250 bike I think.

A little comparison follows:

Type: Suzuki GZ 250 Marauder
Cylinder capacity: 250 cc (about)
Top speed: 82 mph (by 911radioman)

Type: Suzuki Savage LS400
Cylinder capacity: 396 cc
Top speed: 62 mph (my bike)

Again: what causes the quite big difference? Maybe I have done something wrong with those tune-ups (see my signature)...

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Reply #59 - 06/27/06 at 11:25:53

I truthfully wouldn't have the slightest idea as to why. The GZ was my first motorcycle, and I know top end on it was 82. Over on the GZ board, some of those guys have trouble hitting 70.

I do know this. As the cc's get smaller, a lot of variables come into play, such as the terrain you're riding, rider size and weight, state of engine tune, etc.

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