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starmom

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so tell me.......about push starting.....
05/18/06 at 16:13:23

Was on the phone today talking with a progressive insurance dude who also rides... I was telling him about my maiden voyage today and how i forgot and left the aux on somehow instead of off and it would have stunk if my battery was out....

he mentioned that you can push start it in that situation?

please enlighten me..........

thanks.......

sue

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Re: so tell me.......about push starting.....
Reply #1 - 05/18/06 at 16:53:35

Not easy to do on the savage because it is a fairly big single it tends to just slide the tire. The 2 times I've done it: with the key off, first I put it in either 3rd or 4th and while on it roll it forward enough that I'm sure it's past the compression stroke. Switch the lights to low beam. Switch the key on, and the run switch on, get it going as fast as you can while holding the clutch in - slight hill is very helpful - hop on the bike, hit the start button just in case you have enough battery to open the valves, sit down as hard on the seat as you can and pop the clutch.

by the way it's pretty easy to jump start off a car if you install a hot wire/pig tail on the battery before hand and just keep tucked in behind the tool box.

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starmom Ex Member	Re: so tell me.......about push starting..... Reply #2 - 05/18/06 at 16:57:04 huummmmmmmmmmmmm......... Dont think im nearly coordinated............Yet! Good to know , just in case................... Thanks.......
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: so tell me.......about push starting..... Reply #3 - 05/18/06 at 16:58:11 install the wire
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Savage Librarian Serious Thumper Offline One Hoopy Frood Posts: 524 Houston area Gender:	Re: so tell me.......about push starting..... Reply #4 - 05/18/06 at 17:06:04 And as a possibly helpful sidenote, it's sometimes easier if you have a second person with you helping push. At least, it's been so when I've helped other people with it (thankfully, I've never had a dead battery...yet).
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: so tell me.......about push starting..... Reply #5 - 05/18/06 at 17:15:01 These bikes are pretty tough to push - or at least this geezer thinks so - man I had 120kaw that the kick had strip on push it every time for several months until had the it tack welded
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Re: so tell me.......about push starting.....
Reply #6 - 05/18/06 at 18:00:14

Reelthing wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05:

Not easy to do on the savage because it is a fairly big single it tends to just slide the tire. The 2 times I've done it: with the key off, first I put it in either 3rd or 4th and while on it roll it forward enough that I'm sure it's past the compression stroke. Switch the lights to low beam. Switch the key on, and the run switch on, get it going as fast as you can while holding the clutch in - slight hill is very helpful - hop on the bike, hit the start button just in case you have enough battery to open the valves, sit down as hard on the seat as you can and pop the clutch.

by the way it's pretty easy to jump start off a car if you install a hot wire/pig tail on the battery before hand and just keep tucked in behind the tool box.

i've found that rolling it backwards till it stops in a high gear that workes best for me.

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diesel Full Member 2004 No Login Offline Posts: 181 Watsontown, PA	Re: so tell me.......about push starting..... Reply #7 - 05/18/06 at 21:31:56 sluggo got it right, if he had'nt mentioned that, i would have.
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Hammy211 Ex Member	Re: so tell me.......about push starting..... Reply #8 - 05/19/06 at 02:18:44 I used to be able to get mine after a couple tries every time. Now even with a perfect spot to do it I'm lucky to get it started that way. So ya, install the wire. Leave the car off when you jump it.
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Reply #9 - 01/01/07 at 19:35:45

Reelthing wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05:

by the way it's pretty easy to jump start off a car if you install a hot wire/pig tail on the battery before hand and just keep tucked in behind the tool box.

^^^^^^Not a bad idea.

However, make D*MNED sure you insulate this wire properly and tuck it away carefully. A short here sounds like a good way to burn your bike to the ground.

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Re: so tell me.......about push starting.....
Reply #10 - 01/01/07 at 21:20:30

Last couple of weeks have been cold and the bike hard to start. I've found that I could get the bike rolling (clutch in and in first gear), hit the starter for a few seconds (normal start time) then pop the clutch and get it to start. And popping the clutch deactivates the starter. One of these days I'm going put in the light relay, as it seems that the battery has enough to turn it over and run the lights but not run the engine. Just installed the Big Crank Battery so might not need that for a while.

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geo Full Member Offline I'm a Savage Posts: 204 Orlando Gender:	Re: so tell me.......about push starting..... Reply #11 - 01/01/07 at 22:19:54 Make sure your girl friends house is on the top of a hill. Then you can do a roll start, maybe in 3rd gear.
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Reply #12 - 01/02/07 at 06:18:17

Just a thought while reading this thread...

I had recently decided to install a toggle switch into the back of the headlight bucket to allow me to turn off the headlight while starting. I went this route because it was just simpler than using a relay to do it automatically. I realize the relay would have negated the need for me to remember to turn the light back on but now I'm thinking it may be a better choice if I need to push-start her.

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Reply #13 - 01/02/07 at 09:51:24

In the Isle of Man all TT racers started there bikes that way, 2nd gear,pull it backwards until you feel resistance from compression,pull in the clutch lever,run as fast as you can ,jump on side saddle ,at the same instant your butt hits the seat let the clutch lever go,now put your right leg over and off you go, (gasping for air,and your legs feeling like jello)

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Yonuh Adisi FSO Serious Thumper Offline Savage Jedi (Knight) Posts: 3622 Pilot Valley NV, aka Tatooine Gender:	Re: so tell me.......about push starting..... Reply #14 - 01/02/07 at 13:30:44 I was just thinking about putting the jump-start-wire (for lack of a better turn) on mine last night. Will definately do it as soon as I get the chance.
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