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USCG Cremeans

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Electrical Problem
03/20/06 at 07:17:37

yesterday i put the engine back in, and hooked all the wires up etc. somewhere along the line i'm not sure what happened, but with all the wires hooked in, im having issues. when i put the key in, the right fron turn signal stays lit and the other three won't light up when i move the switch. also the horn doesn't work, but the high beam/ low beam switch works and the headlight is fine too. the license plate light and brake light also work fine.

anyone have a problem like this? any advice?

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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Electrical Problem Reply #1 - 03/20/06 at 08:49:56 Sounds like a short to me. Do you knwo how to use a voltmeter (or in this case, an ohm-meter)? I beleive there are wiring diagrams in the tech sect. I would look for small resistances where there should be large ones...
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Re: Electrical Problem
Reply #2 - 03/20/06 at 09:40:24

USCG Cremeans wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:

any advice?

When trying to troubleshoot electrical circuits, after a visual/physical inspection, divide and conquer. What I mean by this is after looking to see if all the wires are connected (correctly?) pull on the wires to make sure none are loose, then take 1/2 of the circuit branches away by either removing a fuse, disconnecting a wire or whatever you need to do. Does the problem go away (get worse)? If it goes away, the problem is in the other 1/2 of the wiring. If it doesn't go away, disconnect 1/2 again and check. This is the quickest way to troubleshoot problems if fuses aren't blowing or smoke isn't coming out of the circuit Wink

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USCG Cremeans Ex Member	Re: Electrical Problem Reply #3 - 03/20/06 at 13:08:42 the part that b ugs me the most is that it was working fine when i took it apart, except for the horn. ???
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Kropatchek Serious Thumper Offline Why more than 1 cylinder? Posts: 1457 Alphen a/d Rijn Netherlands Gender:	Re: Electrical Problem Reply #4 - 03/20/06 at 13:58:50 USCG Cremeans wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03: the part that b ugs me the most is that it was working fine when i took it apart, except for the horn. ??? Disconnect the horn first. Then follow the suggestions above. Greetz Kropatchek
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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: Electrical Problem Reply #5 - 03/22/06 at 12:42:53 status? Everyone loves an electrical problem/puzzle- especially if it's on someone else's ride If your right front signal is actually blinking and the other three aren,'t, would that suggest maybee the switch or nearest connection to it. If one blinks, then its not juice, and it,s not the relay I wouldn't think. Best of luck.
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USCG Cremeans Ex Member	Re: Electrical Problem Reply #6 - 03/23/06 at 05:09:16 doesn't blink, just stays on. Well i don't have work this morning so im going to get it all squared away if i can, ill keep it updated
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USCG Cremeans

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Re: Electrical Problem
Reply #7 - 03/23/06 at 05:54:27

ok well i got all of them except the front left to turn on. when i flick the switch for right blinker both front and back turn on but do not blink. when i flick the switch for the left blinker the back turns on and the front is dead. I checked the front left bulb and on of the two filaments is broken. but im not sure why the other filament didnt light up when the bike was on "running lights" the right side did with no problem.

Going to the store right now to replace this bulb and see if that cures anything.

another update within an hour.

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USCG Cremeans

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Reply #8 - 03/23/06 at 08:53:07

ok well i have both right side blinkers working. when i hit the switch they both blink etc. when i put the switch back to normal, the right front is still lit. When i turn on the left blinkers, the front bulb is dead because i couldn't get a bulb, but the back lights up, but doesn't blink.

Horn still isn't working as well.

Does it make a big difference if i have everything in the circuit hooked in : speedo, headlight, etc. ive tried with both and the lights seem to do the same thing when those are hooked up and not hooked up so im leaving them unnatatched since they are in the way right now.

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SeattleSavage

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Re: Electrical Problem
Reply #9 - 03/23/06 at 16:44:03

I rewired my bike from the seat back and from the seat up I just did repairs. My horn and headlight were not working and both problems were caused by one wire right at the large connector about mid way under the tank. the wire just had a bad connect. The light staying on is most likely a short between two wires. Check also where the wires come out under the front seat mount the can get squished there. Did you rewire the blinkers or just unplug them. If you rewired and didn't put them back exactly the same a bulb staying lit could definitely be a symptom.

Kevin

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USCG Cremeans

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Reply #10 - 03/23/06 at 18:09:17

just unplugged and checked a few connections. also charging the battery got the right side to actually blink on and off since im guesing the relay or whatever it is wasn't getting enough power. I'm assuming there is a short somewhere causing the front blinkers to still not work appropriatly. I'm going to tackle it more tommorrow morning.

Thanks for all the help Wink

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Re: Electrical Problem
Reply #11 - 03/24/06 at 01:35:31

USCG Cremeans wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:

just unplugged and checked a few connections. also charging the battery got the right side to actually blink on and off since im guesing the relay or whatever it is wasn't getting enough power. I'm assuming there is a short somewhere causing the front blinkers to still not work appropriatly. I'm going to tackle it more tommorrow morning.

Thanks for all the help Wink

To resume:
RH side of the blinkers work - The blinker relay and both front and rear bulbs are fine.
( If the tank dash is not connected the blinking rate will be a bit slower because of the lesser load)

For the LH side:
Check if the wires of the driving lights and the blinker wires have not been switched.

When you have a short, meaning + and - are touching each other you will blow a fuse......

Greetz
Kropatchek Grin

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USCG Cremeans

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Re: Electrical Problem
Reply #12 - 03/24/06 at 06:26:00

charging the battery and changing the front right bulb and checking connections have solved this mystery. I beleive some combination of the three has caused this most of it due to the almost dead battery and the burnt out bulb.

this problem was one part broken bulb, two parts stupidity. Grin

but the horn still doesn't work. It didnt when i got the bike, but i have replaced the old one with another i bought on ebay that was claimed to have worked when taken off the other bike. Can i test it somehow?

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USCG Cremeans Ex Member	Re: Electrical Problem Reply #13 - 03/24/06 at 06:26:59 Oh yeah, my other question about the electrical jumbo involves a 2004 left hand switch i bought. My bike is an 87 so the connection under the tank for the two switches is a tad bit different, how hard will it be to make the newer one work? anyone do this before?
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SeattleSavage Ex Member	Re: Electrical Problem Reply #14 - 03/24/06 at 15:06:32 to test the horn you just run twelve volts directely to it from the/a battery.
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