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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #60 - 01/23/06 at 19:44:36
 
Maybe he is pulling our chain ??   Grin
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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #61 - 01/24/06 at 01:30:39
 
The choke on My old Z550 was a choke with a hinged flap in it, FCR is an enrichener. Standard KLX carb (Keihin CVK 40) is also an enrichener.

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Reply #62 - 01/24/06 at 05:58:10
 
Steve530 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
But at $1.49 per spark plug change, it's not a lot of money. Smiley


Why do it anyway?  If you have a problem, the process of "troubleshooting" never involves simply changing parts until it runs.  You only change a part when you find that it is bad.  That is what the "stealers" do to save time, but you pay for it.

For example, IF you have no spark do you realize that you can use a 6 MM bolt on the end of the plug wire to check for it?  Electricity doesn't know the difference and then if you have no spark, the plug is still good.  Put it back and follow the path upstream.

2 times to change a plug....1) Bad Plug, or 2) Routine maintenance (burned electrodes, carbon, etc.).

Most of use have manuals of one kind or another.  Where in the troubleshooting section does it simply say, "Bike won't start: Change plug"?

Same goes for the battery issue...there's a lot of talk about The battery MIGHT be bad.  What is the first thing the manual says Change Battery?  Or does it say Test Battery?

Get a meter and test the battery.  Go by the book and meters are real cheap.  Then if the voltage is correct and it still won't start, take it to a bike shop and have them give it a load test.  They do it for free.

The hardest part about all this is that people don't want to take the time to learn something.  Trust me, once you go through the proper steps in the manual you'll fix the problem and buy fewer parts.
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Reply #63 - 01/24/06 at 06:05:06
 
The load test can definitely be important.  My battery had the correct voltage but failed the load test at Sears (they also test them at no charge).
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Reply #64 - 01/24/06 at 07:05:43
 
ok,someone might have said something like this,but i'm just making sure.

ok,u said u have spark and the engine turns over,and the decompression solnoid is working.so to me it seems like a fuel supply issue,u said u have gas at the carb,but what about in the engine,after u try to start the bike,is the spark plug really wet,or completely dry?
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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #65 - 01/24/06 at 08:25:20
 
torque wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
ok,someone might have said something like this,but i'm just making sure.

ok,u said u have spark and the engine turns over,and the decompression solnoid is working.so to me it seems like a fuel supply issue,u said u have gas at the carb,but what about in the engine,after u try to start the bike,is the spark plug really wet,or completely dry?


Exactly, and I'll refer you to my reply #42 as well.

Just remember that if a bike system is mechanically correct, it only needs 3 things...Air, Fuel, and Ignition.  After you narrow it down, what is missing?

My question about smelling the tailpipe was just a hint.  A tailpipe probably smells a little like gas anyway, but if the carb is working correctly, it should smell strongly of gas after a failed start.
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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #66 - 01/26/06 at 23:10:43
 
Well?  Progress report?  Any luck?  Too busy ridin' for an update?
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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #67 - 01/27/06 at 01:51:15
 
Greg.... others,
Left work early Tues.. felt like crap.. still do ..
probably got the flu bug. All I've been doing is  resting , drinking  lots of water and  watching way too much bad daytime tv. I have no desire to work on the bike or anything right now. Don
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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #68 - 01/27/06 at 06:01:10
 
Ack!  Tequila, lots of tequila...
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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #69 - 01/27/06 at 15:14:06
 
Don,

Hope you feel better soon.

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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #70 - 01/29/06 at 16:30:33
 
You can work on that bike with the flu. Come on let's get this puppy running.
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Reply #71 - 01/31/06 at 18:23:37
 
Bump for Don's flu bug.
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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #72 - 01/31/06 at 18:41:32
 
Don- I've always wanted a guzzi- love the 750 Breva.. Cheesy    You didn't actually say so, but I presume the  sav was running before the carb mod, yes?  If so, I always go baack to the last component I worked on (Err improved?).  Sort out the carb and its connections again before going too far afield.  Hope the bug leaves you alone soon..seems like every one is catching something.
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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #73 - 02/06/06 at 15:28:15
 
One more bump.  Let's see if Don is still around. Smiley
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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #74 - 02/15/06 at 17:08:22
 
reading this thread reminds me of watching a catchy tv show.. its reaching the climax and im soo anxious to find out the results! haha good luck with the bike, im going to tackle mine this spring.. got it last fall but it had sat around for about 6 years and now needs a lot of help to run.. had it putting a bit before but i beleive my carb needs som cleaning etc.

goodluck and get better so you can ride again!
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