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Don Sinclair

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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #45 - 01/20/06 at 20:24:37

Ok Guys( and girls too),
Guess it's time to invite all who are interested to a "bike starting "party !!
I'll supply the food and beer..and if, no when you get my bike started welll.... more food and beer ??. Sorry I cannot pay your plane ticket. Bye the way,I am the only one in this group from Southern Cal ??
Back to the bike, I'm really thinking that I may just need a new battery. Even when freshly charged, it has not cranked over very fast and since I recently bought the bike, I don't know how old it is. So, since I 'm pretty cheap ,where can I get the best deal on a Savage battery? Does Walmart for example sell something that will work ? Don

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Steve530 Senior Member 2005 No Login Offline Posts: 452 Knoxville, TN Gender:	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #46 - 01/20/06 at 21:04:14 Don, Is the decompression working? Steve
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SAMM Serious Thumper Offline No lay down crotch rocket for me Posts: 576 Portland Oregon Gender:	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #47 - 01/20/06 at 22:27:53 I feel like the Aflac duck....Buy a Spark plug.....Mine wouldnt start after the white spacer mod.(not sure why)....I charged the bat, put the petc0ck on pri and it fired rite up !! The OLD plug had been gas fould to the point of never starting...
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don sinclair

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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #48 - 01/21/06 at 10:24:10

New sparkplug got it... and tried it already. no luck.
Steve, Decompression working? ...how to check it ?
My brother who is more into mechanics than I am (but lives 2000 miles a way) says that I should spray a small amount of starter fluid into spark plug hole then quickly put plug in and see if it fires. That seems a little dangerous to me. What do you guys think ?
I work mostly weekends now so can't get back to it until Monday. Don

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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #49 - 01/21/06 at 13:57:23 That seems a little much a tiny bit in the air box shouldn't hurt it - but nor should you need to - you seemed in doubt about the bat'ry sure won't hurt to know you had a new one
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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #50 - 01/21/06 at 17:02:02

Don,

The decompression solenoid will click when the starter is pushed. You should hear this before the starter kicks in. A strong click or clunk.

I don't know if the engine will even turnover if the decompression is not working, but if it does I assume it will turn over slow.

There is an adjustment, but what I'm thinking is you may have inadvertently disconnected the timer module or or pinched a wire. The module is under the tank.

You might also want to check under the tank to see if there are any other disconnected wires.

Steve

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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #51 - 01/22/06 at 02:36:19

Reelthing wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:

you seemed in doubt about the bat'ry sure won't hurt to know you had a new one

I agree. If the battery is suspect, replace it.

Perhaps you could ship your carb to someone that has removed their airbox (not I) and has easy carb access to make sure it's working properly. Or possibly someone has a known working carb and could provide you with a loaner.

I'd avoid the starting fluid. That stuff is pretty nasty and kinda hard on motors. Maybe just put a tablesp00n of gasoline down the plug hole.

Edit: LOL it wouldn't let me type tablesp00n. Doh Grin

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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #52 - 01/23/06 at 12:32:47

don sinclair wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:

New sparkplug got it... and tried it already. no luck.

To you and everyone else that pulls the plug the minute there is a problem....

Na, Na, I told you so!

When is everyone gonna learn? Nine times out of ten, you change the plug plus do a dozen other things, and then you figure the plug fixed it.

My plug is 3 years old, and even then I didn't need to change it. Stop wasting your time and money.

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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #53 - 01/23/06 at 12:34:30

Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:

Just to note: In many cases where an enrichener is used instead of a choke (as I believe the case is with the stock BS40 Mikuni carb, definitely with the Amal Mk2), twisting the throttle bypasses the enrichener circuit and renders it useless.

Good point, but some people think they have to open the throttle to start it.

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #54 - 01/23/06 at 12:36:49 Steve530 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01: Don, Is the decompression working? Steve Compression is always working. It's a matter of how much compression is working
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #55 - 01/23/06 at 12:41:14 Have you checked yo see if you have a potato in the tailpipe?
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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #56 - 01/23/06 at 14:03:06

Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:

To you and everyone else that pulls the plug the minute there is a problem....

Na, Na, I told you so!

When is everyone gonna learn? Nine times out of ten, you change the plug plus do a dozen other things, and then you figure the plug fixed it.

My plug is 3 years old, and even then I didn't need to change it. Stop wasting your time and money.

But at $1.49 per spark plug change, it's not a lot of money.

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don sinclair Guest	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #57 - 01/23/06 at 18:43:27 Progress (?) report: No potato in the tailpipe .... Decompression solenoid is working .... In the morning , I'll put everything back together with the old plug( because it DID run with it) and give it another try. If it does not start then I' ll buy a new battery and see it that does the trick. Thanks for your support . Don
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Steve530 Senior Member 2005 No Login Offline Posts: 452 Knoxville, TN Gender:	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #58 - 01/23/06 at 19:10:39 Keep us posted.
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pgolden Ex Member	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #59 - 01/23/06 at 19:39:22 The first thing I do when I get home from work is to check if Don has got his bike started. When he gets it running I guess I'll have nothing to look forward to.
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