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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #105 - 03/03/06 at 20:49:30 either one should do the job - I just have the contact spray around for use on pc boards - cleans well, doesn't hurt plastic or leave any residue
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don sinclair

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Reply #106 - 04/24/06 at 14:22:24

Been a while but here's the latest. Since the last post a couple a months ago , I purchased another bike which I've been riding but need to get the thumper reliable so I can sell it.
Anyway, I did carefully clean the slide and put carb back together, but still have the SAME problem ....it start and runs fine for a few minutes(after it warms up then pops, farts and dies.
I pulled the plug and it looks normal( not wet) maybe a little dry. The petcock seems to work fine .Now I'm thinking that it's not getting enough gas. When i pulled the carb to do the mods, I never touched the pilot jet . Could a clogged pilot cause this to happen? Any other suggestions ? Thanks Don

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Reply #107 - 04/24/06 at 15:49:12

Don- what is your new ride? Inquiring minds and all that. Sorry thumper missed the boat for you, but after a while it can get aggrivating. By any change, did you go Guzzi. (I was thinking a 750 breva would be a good replacement ride). I kinda cringed when you mentioned WD-40, I think it turns to gum after awhile. frankly I think I'd send the carb to someone or sell as is- and let the next lucky owner know the problem and let them fix it. They might enjoy the challange Cheesy

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Reply #108 - 04/24/06 at 16:10:19

Hi Trippa,
Always liked old Guzzi's so I bought a 1976 Convert
model. I'ts a kick ... a 1000cc ( with an auto trans)actually
a 2 speed auto.Goes up to 60 or so in low gear ! But it's a heavy bike to push around. No such thing as a "perfect bike"
Back to the Savage...I really need to get it running right cause I just can't take the major "hit" I would have to take to sell it as is. I paid $2500 for it . I'd probably get less than $1500 for it as is. Just cannot afford to take that kind of loss.
So guys , I still welcome any help on this. I really think this problem can be solved without giving my dealer $75 an hour
just for labor...but I just might have to do that.It kinda goes against my "cheapskate" personality .)

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necropsy Full Member 2005 No Login Offline Suzuki '05 S40 Posts: 173 Barrie, Ontario, Canada Gender:	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #109 - 04/24/06 at 17:38:13 Sticking float and/or needle? Sounds like the bowl maybe running dry. As soon as it dies, try unscrewing the bowl drain and see if it's dry, or if/how much gas drains.
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don sinclair Guest	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #110 - 04/24/06 at 22:23:28 The bowl isn't dry ,but it was down about 1/2 an inch. Is it practical to unscrew the pilot jet from underneath or do I need to take the carb off(for the 5th time!) Don
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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #111 - 04/25/06 at 00:48:42

You can get the pilot out from the bottom, but frankly, with the problems you have had I would remove the carb and completely disassemble it, clean everything, blow out the passages, inspect each part to ensure it is good, and then reassemble it.

If it is clean and the parts are good, and you put it together correctly...it will work.

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don sinclair Guest	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #112 - 04/25/06 at 07:14:14 Thanks Lancer, I'll take it down again and do a total cleaning like I should have done the first time. Don
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don sinclair Guest	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #113 - 04/25/06 at 13:15:19 When doing the carb cleaning, is it necessary to remove the choke assembly ?
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Reply #114 - 04/25/06 at 13:33:48

don sinclair wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:

When doing the carb cleaning, is it necessary to remove the choke assembly ?

No, it is not necessary to remove the choke assembly.
When you completely disassemble the carb, remove all jets and blow out all passages etc. you should also put the diaphragm/slide assembly up to a light source and carefully check the diaphragm for any holes or cracks.

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don sinclair

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Reply #115 - 04/30/06 at 11:38:26

Ok Guys, Today I've pulled carb down and am in process of the cleaning... however , I just measured the float level and its 1 1/4 inches from bottom of float(when turned upside down) to the edge of the carb body. I could not find specs on what this measurement should be. My bike is a 2002 model .
Does anyone have this measurement ( hopefully in inches)
Thanks again . Don

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stock87 Ex Member	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #116 - 04/30/06 at 16:48:30 Is there any rust in the tank? did u take the Petcock out and clean it, check to see if the screen is clogged.
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don sinclair Guest	Re: 2002 Savage will not start Reply #117 - 04/30/06 at 19:34:11 Good idea, Yes I will take petcock down now as well as check it out. Again tho, does anyone have the proper setting for the float bowl ? If it is 1" or less then I think that means that gas may not fill my bowl and cause bike to stall from not getting gas. I am NOT giving up on this issue ,YET. Thanks Don
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don sinclair

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Reply #118 - 05/07/06 at 22:09:58

My LAST rebuild
I took the carb down( for the 4 th time), soaked with carb cleaner, removed jets
and blew out everything with compressed air , rechecked the float level and put eveything back together. SAME story,bike runs fine UNTIL it gets warm, then shuts down.
I decided to take it to the dealer to fix.
Since I've checked everything EXCEPT electrical. I'm hoping they find the solution. I'll let all of you know what they do. Don

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Re: 2002 Savage will not start
Reply #119 - 05/08/06 at 02:57:45

don sinclair wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:

Good idea, Yes I will take petcock down now as well as check it out.
Again tho, does anyone have the proper setting for the float bowl ?
If it is 1" or less then I think that means that gas may not fill my bowl and cause bike to stall from not getting gas.

I am NOT giving up on this issue ,YET. Thanks Don

My Clymer manual says the float level should be 1.06" to 1.114 " (metric; 26.95mm to 28.95mm)

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