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Reply #15 - 01/28/06 at 17:11:32
 
Gerry,

Since you mentioned that you had trouble getting the bulb in the socket, it sounds like the bulb socket is the problem. I suspect one of the wires is shorted.  

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Reply #16 - 01/28/06 at 17:24:55
 
steve 530 is probably right.........
but just to eliminate a bulb error.....
have you tried taking out the good left bulbs and installing them in the bad right side and vice-versa?
while you have the bulbs out look at the sockets for difference in fit and any arcing/charred contacts.
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Reply #17 - 01/28/06 at 17:27:37
 
As a matter of fact, I'd swap out the front indicators as a test, just to make sure the problem moves from right to left.

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Reply #18 - 01/28/06 at 18:24:15
 
well, the bulbs were difficult going in just because fat fingers in little spaces, righty tighty, loosey lefty sort of thing. I don't think that's it, but I can switch left for right.

What about the blinker switch? Even my dad said he told me that, but I thought he meant the blinking bulb. I looked in the service manual and there is the blinker gizmo that is what makes things blink, it is called "Turn Signal Switch".

That's where I'm thinking, because, before the bulb I thought was broken was removed, only the one filament worked. It didn't look broken tho, after I did get it out. Next bulb did same problem, and this bulb does same problem. It does not affect just the front, it affects all blinking on the right: Front, rear bulbs and signal indicator.

Tomorrow I can still change left for right bulbs.

Special Ed  did get a bath tho, saddlebags off, polished up and spiffy. And I did take a 2 mile spin at the end of the day, just to do it. No MC gear tho: just my boots, jeans and ski jacket, helmet and gloves, So, I was chilly, but the 2 miles was fun. Cheesy

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Reply #19 - 01/28/06 at 20:49:07
 
Gerry,

It certainly could be the "blinker switch".  (I assume you mean the turn signal light switch on the left handlebar.)

AFAIK, the turn signal relay supplies current to the indicator lights on both sides. Since the left side works OK, then the relay is not a problem.  

The turn signal light switch is the first component in the circuit where power is suppplied to either the right or left side. So it is reasonable to expect that the problem lies in the switch, the light socket or the wiring between.

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Reply #20 - 01/28/06 at 21:48:09
 
run a solid ground to the quick blinker, that bulb has no ground and is going to ground through the other filement, therefor not enough amperage draw to operate flasher(relay) quick check, small jumper from light to good frame ground, what have you got to lose? I've been wrong before, try it.
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Reply #21 - 01/29/06 at 02:44:13
 
I had a 1993 Dodge Shadow back in '96/97 and one of the rear turn signals was behaving very similar to your Bike Gerry ... a co-worker said it was likely the bulb wasn't grounding correctly due to the socket being old and somewhat corroded ... he took a bit of tin foil, wrapped it around the base of the bulb and stuffed it back in the socket ... believe it or not, it cured the problem!
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Reply #22 - 01/29/06 at 04:25:28
 
Perry's foil is easy to do, I'll try that one.

diesel, I'm not sure what you mean. A ground wire from inside the light to the frame? to test the circuit. Would that do same as the foil?

And, Steve.... LOL, yeah, I guess that's the one. For reason, I was thinking it would be under the seat someplace, but yep, I guess you are right, it's the switch on the left handlebar. for some reason I was thinking of something smaller, more "electronic" in nature, like the way a fuse might be.

Well, coffee will be the first (and most important) tool of the day, so I'll report back later today.

Thanks everyone.

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Reply #23 - 01/29/06 at 22:05:19
 
still think it's a ground problem, just clip a jumper wire from a good known frame ground to light body, iffin that don't work, you've at least elimated the ground as a possible problem.
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Reply #24 - 01/30/06 at 05:51:11
 
Gerry,

The bulb is grounded through the base.  That's why wrapping a piece of aluminum foil around the bulb was suggested. If the base is not making good contact with the base, the aluminum foil acts as a conductive shim.

Diesel is suggesting you make sure the socket is grounded.  For example, you might want to strip the insulation off a piece of stranded wire and put it in the socket along the base of the bulb. Then run the wire to a good ground. If the flaseher works right at that point, then you have a ground problem.

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Reply #25 - 01/30/06 at 21:45:37
 
STEVE: could'nt have said it better myself!
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Reply #26 - 01/31/06 at 19:21:59
 
Oh, ok I understand what you're saying.

The foil was forgotten, and I won't get to do this til next week now, so I'll be ready to report back then.

Thanks guys!

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Reply #27 - 02/03/06 at 14:31:07
 
are signals required in your state? if not, yank em off.
cages don't see them anyway.  Sad
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Reply #28 - 02/04/06 at 05:43:56
 
Ha ha!! thanks Sluggo! That's about the best advice so far! But here in NY the rule says (according the the AMA site) signals required if manufactured in 1985 or after.

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Reply #29 - 02/05/06 at 08:49:16
 
Gerry,

Any progress on this problem?

Also, I just noticed the odometer readings in your sig line.  Looks liek you put 20000 miles on your Savage and 1 mile one the Vstar.  Is that right?

Steve
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