For those of you hoping for the ultimate Christmas Present. Harbor Freight Tools has full length cycle lifts with a lift out rear wheel plate for $299.99 plus freight. Ours arrived today, exactly 1 week from our order date for $338.98 which inlcuded the freight. It is hydraulic (rated at 1000 lbs) so doesn't need an air compressor, has wheels so it is mobile and the ramp lifts off so you don't bang your shin on it. I also have a air cylinder shop style lift with side plates for ATVs and it seemed to be in use that way much of the time. Shipping weight was about 400 lbs so you almost can't buy the steel for this price. I do not know how long the sale lasts, so check it out today. SKU 91764 VGA. http://suzukisavage.com/bbs/YaBBImages/cheesy.gif Max