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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10661 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Put on my Progressive shocks today Reply #15 - 09/29/05 at 06:42:35 Very nice looking bike. I really like the black/chrome theme. That is what I want mine to be like as well. I am planning to repaint mine with a pearl type black paint. I will wait for the middle of winter to do that though. You have definitely earned a GOLD STAR today.
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Reply #16 - 09/29/05 at 07:00:42

Thanks Michael.

Just for comparison's sake...

Stock shocks at highest setting:

Progressive 412-4214C shocks at lowest setting:

Oh, and for anyone that is wondering, that is a .50 cal ammo box on the back. It's painted with rustoleum hammered metal black and padlocked. It may not be pretty but it's tough, waterproof, and just about the right size for some tools, basic spares, flashlight, first-aid kit, etc. It's mounted to the luggage rack with neoprene washers between the box and rack.

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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10661 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Put on my Progressive shocks today Reply #17 - 09/29/05 at 19:17:20 Talking about black...two weeks ago when I went on the March of Dimes Ride there was a guy who had his Harley painted with the TUFF STUFF/RHINO LINING coating that is sprayed in the back of pickup trucks. It was very different seeing it on a bike but I liked it...a lot. That is one tough coating.
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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Put on my Progressive shocks today Reply #18 - 09/30/05 at 08:49:50 Rob, that is a nice looking savage! I bet blacking out the fork lowers would look pretty good too. A lot of folks with rats also use the rhino hide stuff.
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Reply #19 - 09/30/05 at 10:52:17

vroom1776 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:09:

Rob, that is a nice looking savage! I bet blacking out the fork lowers would look pretty good too.

A lot of folks with rats also use the rhino hide stuff.

Thank you. That might look good. However, I'm considering some black fork boots and if I put those on, I'd definitely want to keep the lowers as they are.

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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Put on my Progressive shocks today Reply #20 - 09/30/05 at 11:44:47 Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:09: Thank you. That might look good. However, I'm considering some black fork boots and if I put those on, I'd definitely want to keep the lowers as they are. I agree with you there. I am still very much thinking about the fork boots, but my lowers are already black...
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Reply #21 - 10/01/05 at 10:50:12

Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:09:

Progressive Suspension is a manufacturer of suspension products - a brand name.

Well, yeah, but "progressive" was also a type of spring/shock setup that was born in the early 80's with the popularity of off road and dirt bikes, I believe. Sort of a performance thing to have springs with progressive compression rates.

Anyway, your bike is looking good there, Rob. Looks like you could get a 24" tire in there now Tongue

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Reply #22 - 10/01/05 at 11:21:17

Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:

Well, yeah, but "progressive" was also a type of spring/shock setup that was born in the early 80's with the popularity of off road and dirt bikes, I believe. Sort of a performance thing to have springs with progressive compression rates.

I beleive your talking about the [glow=yellow,2,300]mono-shock [/glow]

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bentwheel Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ride free, citizen Posts: 658 Sarnia, Ontario, Canada Gender:	Re: Put on my Progressive shocks today Reply #23 - 10/01/05 at 13:56:11 I beleive your talking about the [glow=yellow,2,300]mono-shock [/glow] Not necessarily. Sure, some of the early single shock set-ups used progressive wound springs, but they were also prevelant in the traditional dual shock set-up as well.
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Reply #24 - 10/02/05 at 07:20:34

bentwheel wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:

I beleive your talking about the [glow=yellow,2,300]mono-shock [/glow]

Not necessarily. Sure, some of the early single shock set-ups used progressive wound springs, but they were also prevelant in the traditional dual shock set-up as well.

Yep. That is all that I was talking about.

I wonder if that is where the Progressive Insurance company gots its name....not

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klx650sm2002 Serious Thumper Offline The more I learn the less I know. Posts: 2041 Cumbria,England Gender:	Re: Put on my Progressive shocks today Reply #25 - 10/02/05 at 07:55:49 The mono-shock I got for my SR500 project has a progressive wound spring. Clive W
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Reply #26 - 10/02/05 at 14:59:32

Yeah, that's why I capitalized Progressive to indicate a name rather than just an adjective.

Another note: Beside the need to adjust the headlight, I'll need to modify my homemade bike lift. It's now too narrow to lift the bike with the new height. I've realized just how often I use it instead of the actual hydraulic lift now that it won't work. I think simply adding a 2x4 to the side should do it though.

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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Put on my Progressive shocks today Reply #27 - 10/03/05 at 18:27:20 These are progressive shocks made by Progressive - the 4207 is 105/150lb/in and the 4214 is 120/170lb/in 105 or 120 lbs to compress the first inch and 150 or 170 lbs to compress the last inch. Rob, can you try to measure the lift the 12.5inch shocks produced over the stockers - looks to be 3 to 4 inches
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Reply #28 - 10/03/05 at 21:10:37

Reelthing wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:

Rob, can you try to measure the lift the 12.5inch shocks produced over the stockers - looks to be 3 to 4 inches

I'll see what I can do. It'll be pretty close anyway. I won't be able to be completely accurate without swapping back though.

I'll say this much: It was sure easy to get my hands inside the fender to reinstall my saddlebag supports with the bike leaning on the sidestand. The first time I did it, it was a knuckle scraper. If I'd lifted the bike the first time it would have been easier than on the sidestand - but not nearly as easy and it was this time on the sidestand.

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Edit: The lift is almost exactly three inches. However, that's the difference between the stockers' highest setting and the new shocks' lowest setting. The ride is very different now. Bumps are not transmitted directly to your spine anymore.

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Reply #29 - 10/10/05 at 12:09:00

thanks rob - been trying to figure out which part number would lift the bike very little if any and still give
us some better shocks - I believe the stock spring rate is between 90 and 100 closer to 90 as best I can tell by coil count and wire diameter with about 2 inches of travel.

If you measure your stock shocks at rest (or just laying on the floor) are they 10" or 10.5" ?

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