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Reply #30 - 05/17/05 at 18:33:07
 
I hope ya'll didn't think I was praising these "real" gang members.  They're scum of the earth.  I was told to treat them like everyone else in prison, but they seem to attract trouble.  Just like that post about gang members being wusses when their buddies are gone, that's absolutely true.  When I'm escorting a gang member by himself, he is the most obedient guy around; but when he's around his cronies, he's all "F#%k you!" and "drop dead Boss!".  I take it in one ear and out the other.  I've scraped better crud off my shoes than any of these lowlife.
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Reply #31 - 05/18/05 at 07:55:21
 
yes, this is america.
yes, many men and women have sacrificed their lives to maintain our freedom.

but do you wear a red bandana in known crips territory?
no. i do not even let my KIDS wear red or blue bandanas for this very reason: if you want to look like a gang/1% club member then by all means dress like one. then you should expect to be treated like one. by everyone including rival club members AND the police. i also tell my daughters that the way to ensure being treated like a prostitute is to dress like one.

rockers denote the territorial nature of 1% clubs. if you wear something with rockers, you then can expect to be hassled by the other clubs through whose territories you may inadvertantly ride.




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Reply #32 - 05/19/05 at 14:23:15
 
WOW!! Go to work outa town for a few days and come home to more thought provoking comments!
First off gaz ... I love your "patch" designs ... from comments above, I've learned that "Rockers" are what signify territory and what might getcha into trouble in the wrong places ... but gawddarnit rockers kinda "set off" a back patch ... gives it that "look" ... all-the-same, I'm kinda reluctant to post a pic of my fake "colours" on account of the fact that the so-called rockers contain personal info ... maybe I'm just paranoid? As I've said they have only been worn twice ... for fun at local charity Rides ...
Now sunny, I can't help but agree with your comments. I have a teenage daughter and I've had the "dress like a ho, get treated like a ho" conversation, so I know where you're comin' from ...
But primarily, motorcycling is all about fun ... and if some ordinary people wanna "dress-up" once-and-awhile when they Ride, I don't really see the harm in it ... it's a shame that some Riders and/or groups (gangs?) take it so seriously ...
As far as "gansta's" go, those guys are just thugs ... as others here have said, their strength comes in numbers ... as individuals they're all cowards. Nflder's are known for their laid-back attitude and friendly hospitality towards strangers, but I'd be willing to bet that any one of those "gangsta's" I've seen talkin' so tough on television wouldn't last 10 minutes in a downtown St. John's pub on a Friday nite ... he'd be laughed outa the place!
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Reply #33 - 05/19/05 at 14:45:35
 
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Reply #34 - 05/19/05 at 16:10:04
 
I just got a laugh out of a Geico motorcycle insurance add on TV. It showed a rider with a 3 piece patch, yellow rockers on the top and bottom with red letters throughout. Hope the Banditos don't get too upset and beat up on thier TV's.
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Reply #35 - 05/19/05 at 23:14:32
 
the issue of colors is an emotionally charged one at the least. many bikers have died for them. that is why i choose to wear only well worn black leathers with no patches, pins, or insignia's. i am bad about cleaning the bugs off.

in my world bikers who wear colors, also do crime.
i'd rather just ride.
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Reply #36 - 05/20/05 at 00:27:18
 
sluggo wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05:
"i'd rather just ride."


Amen, brother.
Put that on my "rocker".

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Reply #37 - 05/20/05 at 00:33:31
 
sluggo wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05:
in my world bikers who wear colors, also do crime.
i'd rather just ride.


I've been riding for 20 + years now and I have never associated biking with crime.....other people have associated me with crime though.....I might be a bit simple but I don't understand why....
Its not what you wear, its the mentality of the person..

At the moment in the UK places are banning the wearing of huddies and baseball caps because of the association with crime...what next??
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Reply #38 - 05/20/05 at 03:01:29
 
Talking about mentality.........in the 70s when i was a lad, the fashion/craze was to wear a denim cut-off with your favourite rock bands name embroided on the back..well one night at a "rock disco" there a few members of a local mc, bare in mind the disco was for school children, anyway...the so called "tough" bikers walked around all night insisting that all the 15 and 16 year old school children took off their denim cut-offs because they were dis-respecting the mc patches..and at 15 you do not argue.
So as you can imagine i do not have much respect for this club...

Don't get me wrong though, i do not put all clubs in the same basket.
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Reply #39 - 05/20/05 at 06:10:07
 
gazab44 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05:
At the moment in the UK places are banning the wearing of huddies and baseball caps because of the association with crime...what next??


Okay, I'll ask.  WTF are "huddies"?

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Hang on.  Are we talking about "hoodies" - as in hooded sweatshirts or am I making a leap on the wrong tangent?
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Reply #40 - 05/20/05 at 06:29:18
 
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But primarily, motorcycling is all about fun ... and if some ordinary people wanna "dress-up" once-and-awhile when they Ride, I don't really see the harm in it ... it's a shame that some Riders and/or groups (gangs?) take it so seriously ...


It's a shame, but it's a fact. The 1%er's take their colors very seriously because some have killed and died for them. It is there flag.

The thing about the rockers that makes them so territorial is the name of the city or town on the bottom rocker. That is how they claim territory. If you are concerned about trouble with a local club, put "Independant" on the bottom rocker, or don't wear one. A two piece patch can look just as cool but will not get you into trouble. If you are just talking about "fake" colors, you shouldn't have any troubles without a bottom rocker. If you truly want to start a motorcycle club, you basically need permission from the local dominant club. You should approach the club and let them know your intentions, show them your patch and make it clear that you are not a threat to there territory.

It 's kind of like the godfather. He is not the only mobster in town, but all the other mobsters operate with his blessing or there is trouble.

It's very easy to start a club or wear colors if you so desire, but you gotta play by the rules. It's is better safe than sorry. I have some friends that were shot by the Outlaws. They were in a clean and sober motorcycle club, but they wore a three piece patch. They did not go through the proper channels and after several warnings, they decided they would not take off there colors for anyone. Two of them were pulled over and executed on the side of the road. There colors still hang upside down on the wall at the Outlaws clubhouse.

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Reply #41 - 05/20/05 at 06:48:11
 
Everybody has pretty much covered this but just to summarize.......
yes, Perry you would run into trouble.  The flashlights that the Bandidos carry are not for light (more like lights-out).  Last Sept. in NM I spoke with a guy who had done just what you did.  Created his own colors for his own amusement and he had been confronted by some Bandits over it but he was still wearing them anyway.  It is the 3 piece/rocker design that is considered "outlaw".  My bf's club is Harley only, police only and they fly outlaw style colors.  The Bandits here still work up the nerve to f**k with them about once a year in spite of the fact that they know they are all cops.  The California chapter however seems to have little or no problem with the HAs.  For anyone who thinks these poor guy are getting a bad rap........ They earned their ruptation.  Police depts. all over the country work them as organized crime.  
So, why not turn the rockers into a full circle encompasing the center patch and make it all one piece.  Problem solved.  If anyone wants more details or has questions about outlaw clubs all I have to do is yell the question accross the house.
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Reply #42 - 05/20/05 at 09:48:53
 
8)Back again folks!
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The thing about the rockers that makes them so territorial is the name of the city or town on the bottom rocker


CafeTbird, Diane, et al ... well the bottom rocker on my hand-painted job (this is not a sewn patch folks!) does indeed state the name of my home town and the abbreviation for Newfoundland (NL) ... and in my ignorance, I did not know the serious significance of this! ... rest assured, I'll never wear it anywhere where there are 1% outlaw clubs (like mainland Canada or the U.S.) ... but to be honest, around here I'd say it's pretty safe ... doubt if any 1% clubs even know where Newfoundland is ... or give a crap at any rate!
Gazab44 my man ... particularly like the Suzuki Savage Dot Com design with the Bike in the middle ... think you could replace the "England" with "Newfoundland" and forward me a copy ... that's t-shirt material!
Thanks for the interesting conversation folks ... I've really enjoyed it!
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Reply #43 - 05/20/05 at 14:15:58
 
CafeTbird wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05:
Two of them were pulled over and executed on the side of the road. There colors still hang upside down on the wall at the Outlaws clubhouse.


... and what did the local police do about it?   Angry
they know those colors were at least stolen from their legitimate owners !!!  Shocked   Angry

here, we are lucky enough our police SWAT team is prepare to storm into any place, no matter what, "shoot first, ask later, f**k you if you were in the wrong place, we will bomb you down anyway" attitude when they feel their authority is being challenged...  

I'm glad I'll be in the US as a tourist only, if ever...

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Reply #44 - 05/20/05 at 14:42:00
 
Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:05:
Okay, I'll ask.  WTF are "huddies"?

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Hang on.  Are we talking about "hoodies" - as in hooded sweatshirts or am I making a leap on the wrong tangent?


your correct rob...sweatshirts with hoods on  Smiley
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