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gazab44 Senior Member 2004 No Login Offline TO OLD TO DIE YOUNG.... Posts: 416 uk Gender:	Gears/Speed 04/26/05 at 07:28:08 What are the lowest speeds i can expect in each gear before the bike starts to "judder"?
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Gears/Speed Reply #1 - 04/26/05 at 13:28:17 With stock everything, you'll be juddering along if you go 35 in 5th....the others I haven't really tried.
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dannimal Full Member 2005 No Login Offline Posts: 100 Chicago IL (S/W Suburbs) Gender:	Re: Gears/Speed Reply #2 - 04/26/05 at 13:56:37 I think it all depends on each individuals proportions my friend. Someone once told me you can't put a gallon into a quart container!
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sluggo Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline big singles lead, twins follow the pack Posts: 4744 moses lake washington Gender:	Re: Gears/Speed Reply #3 - 04/26/05 at 13:59:16 dannimal wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04: I think it all depends on each individuals proportions my friend. Someone once told me you can't put a gallon into a quart container! sure you can.. you just spill a bunch on the table
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Red_Wine Senior Member Offline Chain-drive, 400cc Black Savage in Chile Posts: 478 Santiago, Chile Gender:	Re: Gears/Speed Reply #4 - 04/26/05 at 14:46:48 sluggo wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04: sure you can.. you just spill a bunch on the table I fully agree, Sluggo, been there, done that RW
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short round Junior Member 2005 No Login Offline Posts: 88 mid Missouri Gender:	Re: Gears/Speed Reply #5 - 04/26/05 at 22:08:51 Or punch a hole in the bottom. How slow you can go depends on how quick you try to accelerate or if going uphill. If you accelerate slowly you can dog it down to a slower speed than if you try to accelerate quickly. The more you "gun it" the more it will shake. Probably not good to make it "jubber" too much.
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: Gears/Speed Reply #6 - 04/27/05 at 01:26:33 You can get your bike to do 35mph in 5th gear? Mine shudders at 35 in 3rd... Each bike is different, so, I'd say intentionally stall the bike out in each gear. Only way you'll know for sure. Any abandoned airfields you can practice on? -WD
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gazab44 Senior Member 2004 No Login Offline TO OLD TO DIE YOUNG.... Posts: 416 uk Gender:	Re: Gears/Speed Reply #7 - 04/27/05 at 03:13:08 thanks....mine is no different then...about 30ish in 5th
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Re: Gears/Speed
Reply #8 - 04/27/05 at 06:00:18

Probably within the first couple of months of buying the Savage I took off from a stop sign and it didn't accelerate very well. Then I figured out I was in 3rd gear. Be easy on me, remember this is my first motorcycle and I still occasionally lose track of what gear I'm in. Then when the shift rod bent I was stuck in 4th gear in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere New Mexico & had to crawl along at about 20 or 25 mph looking for a good place to pull off the road.

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Paladin. Serious Thumper Offline Hamster Posts: 4929 Sunny Southern California Gender:	Re: Gears/Speed Reply #9 - 04/27/05 at 08:39:17 gazab44 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04: thanks....mine is no different then...about 30ish in 5th Caveat: I am very abusive to hardware. Checked my riding on the way to work -- I am shifting into 5th at 30-35 mph and it pulls with a smooth thumping. Lower than 30 is more of a judder (which is actually a legitimate word!)
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Re: Gears/Speed
Reply #10 - 04/27/05 at 17:36:25

Actually I think it's called Lugging.

But anyway, I've noticed 2 things.

1. Much under 10mph and I've got to ride the clutch.

2. I've a bad habit of being in the wrong gear (too high) quite often. All that thumper needs is a good GOOSE on the throttle, and it pulls me right out. I think about the only time I've ever stalled was pulling from a dead stop in 5th. OTOH, I've goosed it and got away in 3rd from a stop many times.

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Reply #11 - 04/27/05 at 18:02:44

Diane wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:

Be easy on me, remember this is my first motorcycle and I still occasionally lose track of what gear I'm in.

I have that trouble sometimes too. I'm getting better, but I still lose track rather frequently. For the most part, I just use 2, 3, and 4 as "pass through" gears on my way to 5 for cruising, or down to 1 for stopping.

Most of my riding is rural...mostly because I have to go 20 miles from home just to begin to get to anything remotely civilized, so I don't have much city driving.

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gandalph40 Ex Member	Re: Gears/Speed Reply #12 - 04/28/05 at 11:08:06 35 in 5th is about the bottom limit for me (with a stock Sporty muff and no jet work). I know when the stock muff was on, it would go down to about 32 and still pull away with a hefty throttle roll with no shake or rattle from the engine.
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Red_Wine Senior Member Offline Chain-drive, 400cc Black Savage in Chile Posts: 478 Santiago, Chile Gender:	Re: Gears/Speed Reply #13 - 04/28/05 at 14:05:49 My 400cc, chain drive seriously wants to stall at 20 km/hr in 5th gear... and it does "judder" there!!! RW
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Mr 650 Serious Thumper Offline The LS650- Classic style & 4-valve engine Posts: 1389 Mempho Gender:	Re: Gears/Speed Reply #14 - 04/29/05 at 10:14:10 Ain't it cool the way it will still pull in the higher gears. I try to downshift if she "judders", gotta be rough on the bottom end w/ all the backlash. I do cruise in 5th just above "judder speed". Also the new carb will idle down real low and it sounds way cooler at the light w/ the open pipe.
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