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ENGINE SQUEELS
11/17/04 at 11:06:11

I BOUGHT A 2 YEAR OLD SAVAGE & I'M TRYING TO GET ALL THE BUGS OUT.
THE ENGINE SQUEELS OR HOWLS AT HIGHER RPM'S - THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT THE BELT - THAT SQUEEK IS ALSO PRESENT.(AND ADDRESSED SEPARATELY)
IT SEEMS TO BE ENGINE SPEED SPECIFIC, BUT NOT ASSOCIATED WITH RAPID THROTTLE INPUT - WITHOUT A TACH I CANNOT SAY AT WHAT RPM IT STARTS, BUT I CAN SAY - PUT IT IN FIRST GEAR & GO...WHEN ENGINE SOUNDS TO BEE SOMEHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF IDLE & WHERE IT IS BEGGING TO UPSHIFT IT STARTS TO SQUEEL OR HOWL - IT DOES NOT GO AWAY UNTIL ENGINE SPEED IS REDUCED. IT IS LESS NOTICABLE IN EACH OF THE FOLLLOWING GEARS - BUT THEN, I WEAR A SHORT HELMET & WIND CANCELS MOST NOISE INPUT.
WHAT SHOULD I CHECK TO IDENTIFY THE SOURCE? - OR BETTER - IS THERE A KNOWN TENDANCY FOR THIS??

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Kropatchek Serious Thumper Offline Why more than 1 cylinder? Posts: 1457 Alphen a/d Rijn Netherlands Gender:	Re: ENGINE SQUEELS Reply #1 - 11/18/04 at 03:50:01 Check the oil level. How long ago ( miles) was the oil and filter changed?? At high ousideair themperatures a thicker oil (e.g. 20W-50) might also help. Greetz Kropatchek
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Gitarzan Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline ! Posts: 827 Columbus, Oh, Earth, Solar Sys Gender:	Re: ENGINE SQUEELS Reply #2 - 11/18/04 at 20:22:00 Check the front gear wheel, under the aluminum cover. Mine was just touching the cover and after about 1/2 hours riding, it would squeal or gnash. I filed off a little from the cover where it was touching and viola! one less squeak, rattle, pop or squeal from my Savage.
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Re: ENGINE SQUEELS
Reply #3 - 11/20/04 at 03:39:16

Gitarzan wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

Check the front gear wheel, under the aluminum cover.

Mine was just touching the cover and after about 1/2 hours riding, it would squeal or gnash.

I filed off a little from the cover where it was touching and viola! one less squeak, rattle, pop or squeal from my Savage.

If you had to file clearance for the cover then something happened to the stock bubber bushings and spacers for the pulley cover mounting bolts. Those 3 bolts (2 of 3 anyway) have different length spacers and it is real easy to switch them around (since they tend to just fall off) when the cover is reinstalled.

I did that by accident with my spouse's pulley cover once.

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Honda_fan Junior Member 2004 No Login Offline Go Ride! Posts: 70 Antioch, IL Gender:	Re: ENGINE SQUEELS Reply #4 - 11/20/04 at 13:29:04 Put your hand on the speedo and see if it goes away. Sounds more like the speedo than the engine if it happens while moving. If it squeals while stopped and reving the engine than probably engine based.
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Re: ENGINE SQUEELS
Reply #5 - 11/21/04 at 08:07:47

Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

If you had to file clearance for the cover then something happened to the stock bubber bushings and spacers for the pulley cover mounting bolts. Those 3 bolts (2 of 3 anyway) have different length spacers and it is real easy to switch them around (since they tend to just fall off) when the cover is reinstalled.

I did that by accident with my spouse's pulley cover once.

I guess we can blame that on the previous owner... Grin

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marty62253 Junior Member 2004 No Login Offline Posts: 78 N. Massapequa, N.Y. Gender:	Re: ENGINE SQUEELS Reply #6 - 11/29/04 at 14:13:39 Well I'll be.......a rattling speedo can sound like a squealing pig....yup---that's exactly what I have. Now, Who can tell me how to get rid of that awfull noise?? Marty
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Honda_fan Junior Member 2004 No Login Offline Go Ride! Posts: 70 Antioch, IL Gender:	Re: ENGINE SQUEELS Reply #7 - 11/29/04 at 18:48:32 My quick fix is a shot of silicon around the speedo and on the springs and posts. More permanent is a little blue RTV on the springs. I know other have found and used other solutions. Just be careful tightening the nuts on the spring posts. DAMHIK
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Re: ENGINE SQUEELS
Reply #8 - 11/30/04 at 03:43:35

Honda_fan wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

My quick fix is a shot of silicon around the speedo and on the springs and posts. More permanent is a little blue RTV on the springs. I know other have found and used other solutions. Just be careful tightening the nuts on the spring posts. DAMHIK

Yep, silicon on the springs AND be careful not to over tighten the nuts....much easier than the process of removing the tank though Roll Eyes

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Susan Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline Been AWOL but I'm back... Posts: 682 Eastern PA Gender:	Re: ENGINE SQUEELS Reply #9 - 11/30/04 at 06:32:17 DAMHIK?? Is that an abbreviation for something? ???
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marty62253 Junior Member 2004 No Login Offline Posts: 78 N. Massapequa, N.Y. Gender:	Re: ENGINE SQUEELS Reply #10 - 11/30/04 at 08:46:12 O.K. - I'LL TRY THAT....WHAT NUTS AM I TRYING NOT TO OVERTIGHTEN???
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Honda_fan Junior Member 2004 No Login Offline Go Ride! Posts: 70 Antioch, IL Gender:	Re: ENGINE SQUEELS Reply #11 - 11/30/04 at 18:02:58 Susan wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11: DAMHIK?? Is that an abbreviation for something? ??? Don't Ask Me How I Know
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Re: ENGINE SQUEELS
Reply #12 - 11/30/04 at 18:07:36

marty62253 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

O.K. - I'LL TRY THAT....WHAT NUTS AM I TRYING NOT TO OVERTIGHTEN???

If you pull the tank to get at the speedo you will see it is mounted on posts that have springs under a washer & nut. These are the nuts I am refering to. The plastic is pretty weak to the twisting motion of the nut on the post. I recommend using blue thread locker so you only have to run them down and gently bottom them. I wasn't paying attention and the post twisted off.

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Susan Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline Been AWOL but I'm back... Posts: 682 Eastern PA Gender:	Re: ENGINE SQUEELS Reply #13 - 11/30/04 at 21:29:36 Honda_fan wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11: Don't Ask Me How I Know Phew. Thanks. I was going nuts trying to figure it out.
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: ENGINE SQUEELS Reply #14 - 12/01/04 at 04:10:17 I thought that it stood for d-a-m-n-h-i-c-k
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