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squeeky drive belt
11/17/04 at 10:56:33

i'm new to his bike - or the other way around - either way - i have a 2002 savage that needs some t.l.c. to make worthy of putting on the street.
one of many things in my way is the drive belt squeeks. - the belt looks to be riding/rubbing on the outside edge of both pulleys - how do i get the belt to stop rubbing against the side of the pulleys? again, it is rubbing the outside edge of both pulleys??
also-the belt looks dull - is it ok to use anything to brighten it up a little - like armorall??

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Re: squeeky drive belt
Reply #1 - 11/18/04 at 03:42:26

Do NOT spray anything on the drive belt. Clean it with saop and rinse with water. When dry put some talcum powder on.

Think your belt need aligning.
Get the rear wheel off the floor, loosen-up the rear axle, loosen-up the adjusters and push the rearwheel forward a bit.

Start tightening the rear adjusters while rotating the wheel and look if the belt stays in the middle. Correct tension is when you can rotate the belt 90 degr. on the bottom. Use the lines as reference.

Tighten the rear axle and lock the adjusters, done
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Reply #2 - 11/30/04 at 03:07:25

Kropatchek wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

Do NOT spray anything on the drive belt. Clean it with saop and rinse with water. When dry put some talcum powder on.

Think your belt need aligning.
Get the rear wheel off the floor, loosen-up the rear axle, loosen-up the adjusters and push the rearwheel forward a bit.

Start tightening the rear adjusters while rotating the wheel and look if the belt stays in the middle. Correct tension is when you can rotate the belt 90 degr. on the bottom. Use the lines as reference.

Tighten the rear axle and lock the adjusters, done
greetz
Kropatchek

Very correct. Good adjustment advice.

Also, it has been my experience that the drive belt squeaks more when it is too tight rather than being misaligned (not severely misaligned?). The belt does tend to rub one side of the pulley slightly even when the wheel is evenly positioned in the swingarm...after all it floats against rubber bushings in the hub.

If you have a 2002, maybe you are also lucky enough to have the tension gage and the owners manual to check the tension. The tension and alignment adjustments are done at the same time.

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red2k1 Ex Member	Re: squeeky drive belt Reply #3 - 11/30/04 at 13:09:41 Ditto, ditto. Proper belt tension is critical. If you feel compelled to "lubricate" the drive belt, Harley does sell a drive belt lub. Personally, I just keep the belt and pullies clean with the belt aligned at proper tension.
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Reply #4 - 12/05/04 at 06:23:12

red2k1 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

Ditto, ditto.

Proper belt tension is critical. If you feel compelled to "lubricate" the drive belt, Harley does sell a drive belt lub. Personally, I just keep the belt and pullies clean with the belt aligned at proper tension.

Just gotta remember that lubing the belt could allow dirt and crap to stick to it which will cause abrasion to the belt and pulleys. After all, you don't lube the belts under the hood of your car either.

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Re: squeeky drive belt
Reply #5 - 02/05/05 at 10:38:27

I agree with Greg_650, don't put anything on that belt that would cause grit to stick on it.

After my repaint, I had noise coming from the rear of the bike. Turned out I had the drive belt too tight. Loosened up the bolts on the rear axle and scooted the tire forward about one "mark" on the swingarm and the noise went away. I've bid on an original Savage tension tool on ebay, as my bike came with no tool kit. Don't bid against bobo383, and I'll let you borrow it.

I centered the belt on the rear pulley by lifting the bike with my engine hoist (by the shock mounts, with the seat off) and letting it idle in high gear, about 20mph or so, while adjusting the tension bolts to get the belt dead center. Definitely not for the faint of heart - you could get really hurt if you don't pay attention. Just like riding I guess.

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Reply #6 - 02/06/05 at 19:45:50

Hey! I was gonna bid on the toolkit.
My bike did not have one either. Undecided

That is the 1st time I have actually seen the contents;

Would the kind Savagsters could confirm this photo is all all there is to the tool kit. I could get by w/ just the tensioner, however looks like it is the bulk of the cost of the kit so might as well get the whole shootin match.

96220-24B00 CHECKER DR BELT $18.62
09800-21012 TOOL ASSY $26.69

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bobo383 Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline Neck=Red Posts: 516 Arlington, TX Gender:	Re: squeeky drive belt Reply #7 - 02/06/05 at 20:28:18 Looks alot better than the tool kits that came with my 3-wheelers in the 80s. Good luck, one of us will hopefully wind up with it.
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Kropatchek Serious Thumper Offline Why more than 1 cylinder? Posts: 1457 Alphen a/d Rijn Netherlands Gender:	Re: squeeky drive belt Reply #8 - 02/07/05 at 03:24:04 @mr650 That's exactly what you need, the complete contents of the Savage toolkit. It's not of the greatest quality, but the sparkplug socket saves you from chasing around for one. Good buy for the complete kit. Greetz Kropatchek
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Reply #9 - 02/07/05 at 07:32:26

Thanks Kropatchek,

From left to right the kit photo appears to have:

deep socket (size?)
box wrench (size?)
pliers
socket handle/punch??
reversable screwdiver, flat & phillips
sparkplug socket ?
box wrench extention?
screwdriver handle
belt tension tool
small metric combo wrench (size?)
medium metric combo wrench (size?)

The belt tension tool and the spark plug wrench appear to be the only non-std. tools that you can't get elsewhere.
The spark plug wrench is cut so that you won't have to pull the tank, that makes it worth the cost of the kit alone!
I have the reverable screwdriver, pliers and the combo wrenches already from previous kits.
Bobo, The ebay used kit price now has exceeded the Ron Ayres new, shipped price, hooray for eBay. What some will pay for eBay junk amazes me. Roll Eyes

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bobo383 Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline Neck=Red Posts: 516 Arlington, TX Gender:	Re: squeeky drive belt Reply #10 - 02/07/05 at 18:29:00 I saw it, too. Thanks for thinking of me. I didn't know about the custom no-tank-removal spark plug tool, you're right that's worth Ron Ayers' price of the kit!
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reeko YaBB Newbies 2004 No Login Offline Posts: 26 Slovak Republic Gender:	Re: squeeky drive belt Reply #11 - 02/07/05 at 23:05:22 Please could anybody tell me the exact length that makes the belt tension tool in correct possition??
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Reply #12 - 02/08/05 at 07:22:48

The correct position for the belttool you find with your hand at the following position.
Feel on the underside just aft of the lower belt cover. There's a small bracket with a hole in it. Put the body of the tool in there. The other side on the belt at approx. 90 degrees. The correct tension is the middle of the 3 stripes on the plunjer.

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PS when greg has time he willpost a picture, won't you greg?

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reeko YaBB Newbies 2004 No Login Offline Posts: 26 Slovak Republic Gender:	Re: squeeky drive belt Reply #13 - 02/08/05 at 23:35:53 Kropatchek.. I'v got Clymer manual so I know how to do it with the tool.. but my problem is that I don't have that tool, so I wanted to know the correct lenght to make my own tool or something like that.. 8)
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Kropatchek Serious Thumper Offline Why more than 1 cylinder? Posts: 1457 Alphen a/d Rijn Netherlands Gender:	Re: squeeky drive belt Reply #14 - 02/09/05 at 05:20:20 reeko. I'm sorry if I understand you wrongly. I could give you the length of the tool, however that's of NO use to anyone. There's a spring inside and who knows the tension of that. If the lool is not available tighten the belt untill you can twist it with your fingers for 90 degrees. Greetz Kropatchek
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