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martinfilms34 Full Member Offline Teenagers ride savages too! Posts: 138 Orlando, Florida	Re: Basic Rider Training Reply #30 - 04/24/12 at 17:30:08 Exactly why i said riding wise, cost wise its a bit of a disadvantage but it could pay off in the long run.
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Re: Basic Rider Training
Reply #31 - 04/24/12 at 18:43:51

Retread wrote on 04/24/12 at 17:18:03:

I just don't approve of the cost, I believe the AMA should provide basic courses for nothing, it promotes motorcycling..

where can you rent a bike with a high risk of accident for cheaper?
Then hire someone to give you lessons for 2 days?
and rent a building and a lot for you to go wild in?

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Reply #32 - 04/24/12 at 19:24:54

verslagen1 wrote on 04/24/12 at 18:43:51:

Retread wrote on 04/24/12 at 17:18:03:

I just don't approve of the cost, I believe the AMA should provide basic courses for nothing, it promotes motorcycling..

where can you rent a bike with a high risk of accident for cheaper?
Then hire someone to give you lessons for 2 days?
and rent a building and a lot for you to go wild in?

You don't have to rent a bike, the course is for bike owners, there are plenty of empty lots to give the course, a simple form of liability release, and a few cones.. It aint rocket science it is basic bike handling, safety, and simple maint! The basic course used to be a one day, six hour affair... Why does everything circle around a dollar? Angry

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Re: Basic Rider Training
Reply #33 - 04/24/12 at 20:06:56

Retread wrote on 04/24/12 at 19:24:54:

You don't have to rent a bike, the course is for bike owners, there are plenty of empty lots to give the course, a simple form of liability release, and a few cones.. It aint rocket science it is basic bike handling, safety, and simple maint! The basic course used to be a one day, six hour affair... Why does everything circle around a dollar? Angry

I agree, but every class has some clown that looses it and no parking lot large enough. in this country of lawyers, a grass roots class won't last 5 minutes.

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Retread Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 370	Re: Basic Rider Training Reply #34 - 04/24/12 at 20:22:29 They used to.... Some things should not change... Sometimes change is just for profit...
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Dj12midnit Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline If you'r here and I'm here isn't this our time? Posts: 1036 Lynden Wa. Gender:	Re: Basic Rider Training Reply #35 - 04/24/12 at 21:51:45 The course is still offered for free in this country, just join the military. Problem solved.
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Re: Basic Rider Training
Reply #36 - 04/25/12 at 00:57:00

Buster wrote on 04/24/12 at 15:00:35:

bill67 wrote on 04/24/12 at 06:40:23:

Buster wrote on 04/23/12 at 13:45:29:

bill67 wrote on 04/23/12 at 13:17:40:

If you can ride a bicycle you can ride a motorcycle.No course needed.

So, when you ask the guy on a bicycle what would he do when approaching a rain slick corner at 50mph with a truckers "road gator" blocking the path, and panic-stop braking causes front wheel to wobble or the back tire to skid...what do you do when he just says Huh

About the same as saying: "If you can ride a three-legged donkey you can ride Secretariat. No horse training needed."

So what did your teach tell you to do in that rain slick situation.

He told me at least 9 things to do in that situation. If you want to know, sign up for the training course and then you'll know too.

Besides, you didn't answer my question.

BTW, my instructor set 27 World Records during his racing days...and about 20 years later, 3 of those World Records are still unbroken.

Don't for get the order of the nine things he taught you for that situation.

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Re: Basic Rider Training
Reply #37 - 04/25/12 at 04:17:33

bill67 wrote on 04/25/12 at 00:57:00:

Buster wrote on 04/24/12 at 15:00:35:

bill67 wrote on 04/24/12 at 06:40:23:

Buster wrote on 04/23/12 at 13:45:29:

bill67 wrote on 04/23/12 at 13:17:40:

If you can ride a bicycle you can ride a motorcycle.No course needed.

So, when you ask the guy on a bicycle what would he do when approaching a rain slick corner at 50mph with a truckers "road gator" blocking the path, and panic-stop braking causes front wheel to wobble or the back tire to skid...what do you do when he just says Huh

About the same as saying: "If you can ride a three-legged donkey you can ride Secretariat. No horse training needed."

So what did your teach tell you to do in that rain slick situation.

He told me at least 9 things to do in that situation. If you want to know, sign up for the training course and then you'll know too.

Besides, you didn't answer my question.

BTW, my instructor set 27 World Records during his racing days...and about 20 years later, 3 of those World Records are still unbroken.

Don't for get the order of the nine things he taught you for that situation.

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Re: Basic Rider Training
Reply #38 - 04/25/12 at 13:03:56

This thread got me thinking about the MSF offerings again, and I just signed up for an Advanced Rider Course for this Saturday. Anybody taken this? MSF courses are a deal in Ohio -- just 25 bucks. I'll report back on whether I thought it was worthwhile. I figure it wouldn't be bad to have a refresher and practice emergency stops and the like at the beginning of the season.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Basic Rider Training Reply #39 - 04/25/12 at 16:00:01 People don't like to admitted they pulled a dumb stunt so they will aways say what they did helped.
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SALB Serious Thumper Offline FSO Posts: 668 Whittier, AK Gender:	Re: Basic Rider Training Reply #40 - 04/25/12 at 16:06:45 bill67 wrote on 04/25/12 at 16:00:01: People don't like to admitted they pulled a dumb stunt so they will aways say what they did helped. So what dumb stunt did you pull that using klotz helped?
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Basic Rider Training Reply #41 - 04/25/12 at 19:23:58 Used a none motorcycle oil once.
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Jerry Eichenberger Serious Thumper Offline 2006 S40. OEM windshield, saddle bags, Sportster Posts: 2919 Columbus, Ohio Gender:	Re: Basic Rider Training Reply #42 - 04/26/12 at 15:04:54 In Ohio, the course costs $25; Honda Rebel and fuel included. All you have to own are helmet, boots, long sleeved shirt or jacket, and long pants. How they can afford to supply even an inexpensive bike, fuel, insurance, and maintenance on the bikes for $25 escapes me - the state subsidizes it to a great degree. No profit there.
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Retread Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 370	Re: Basic Rider Training Reply #43 - 04/26/12 at 15:46:10 Maybe not there, here in CO $125, your OWN bike, and limited access.
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Buster Full Member Offline Motul 3000 10w40 Zinc 1407ppm Posts: 128 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Basic Rider Training Reply #44 - 04/26/12 at 16:01:17 For me it was $200 for 2 days/16 hours. 4-5 hours (guessing) in school room 9 hours on the cycles, including water breaks while riding, plus hour each day for lunch. Training course provided bikes, and all the Red Bull you wanted for that price.
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