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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 05/15/23 at 21:57:40

Title: Menus motorcycles
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/15/23 at 21:57:40

Has anyone looked into those?

Title: Re: Janus motorcycles
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/16/23 at 09:33:53

Well, POOT!!
That blasted spellchecker!!

JANUS,, not menus..

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by sjaskow - FSO on 05/16/23 at 10:28:30

For what appear to be a hand built bike, they're not as expensive as I thought they would be. Their FAQ says the engine the engine for the smaller bikes are "229cc air-cooled, single-cylinder, 2-valve, pushrod motor from our manufacturer in China". I'm betting it's that Honda clone that's used in all of the 250cc Chinese bikes like the Lifan or Zongshen.

For people who don't know, their website is: https://janusmotorcycles.com/ .

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by Dave on 05/16/23 at 10:31:16

Yep....you and spellcheck had me looking at this:

https://www.motomenus.com/buy-a-motorcycle1621390802597

The Halycon 450 starts at $14,995! You can buy a lot more motorcycle than that for 15 grand!

I watched a few YouTube videos......some comments from previous owners said they were glad to get rid of theirs. The suspension is not good and the seat was as hard as a bleacher was the comments from one previous owner.

I like riding motorcycles that allow you to ride all day and cover some significant mileage, and I would be more likely to spend my money on a bike that wasn't using a Chinese Honda Clone engine and 1920's suspension technology.

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/16/23 at 10:46:34

The Kawasaki 750 LTD ,vertical twin I had forty years ago was really a good bike. If I could have another, I would.

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by MMRanch on 05/17/23 at 18:42:39

Jog wrote : The Kawasaki 750 LTD ,vertical twin I had forty years ago was really a good bike. If I could have another, I would.

Hay Jog
The Kawasaki W650 I had for a while and now the W800 would be really close the the 750 LTD Twin but a little lighter weight and taller seat. I tried out one of the 750 LTD Twins one time and remember it being a little heavier than the the W650. Some times I think ... " I should have just kept the W650" - It had the rear fender crack thing going on and once I got to changing parts then the "Collector" value would have been gone , so away it went.

I'm waiting on the Super Meteor 650 to come to North America , it should be even more like the Kawasaki LTD 750 in weight , seat height and performance. The fuel millage should be a lot better too ! The way I understand it is : "Later this summer" ? :-?

https://www.financialexpress.com/auto/bike-news/royal-enfield-super-meteor-650-gets-first-price-hike-new-vs-old-price-list/3083671/

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/23 at 07:34:43

I have a W650, it's got a title issue..
The seat height is a bit more than I'm comfortable with, but it Could get Reupholstered and shaved down.

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by ohiomoto on 05/18/23 at 19:33:16

I just searched "Hipster" and I got this:

http://https://www.cycleworld.com/resizer/guQgw2q9yk_dBPExQkC6Nqrzwgo=/1000x666/smart/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/octane/P62JFYPDYMXDIU5M2MLETZS43U.jpg

Just another uniform, like the "biker" has a uniform, the "hooligan" uniform, the "racer" uniform, the "tour rider" uniform... (I'm probably closer to the hipster image than the rest but I'm really not that cool. lol)

Also, I'm just having fun with this and not making fun of anyone.
:)

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by Ruttly on 05/18/23 at 22:08:30

Gotta have girly tight pants to be a hipster. ;D

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by verslagen1 on 05/18/23 at 22:24:26

1 jug
1 headlight
1 mirror
and the only thing of size on her is the ponytail.

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/23 at 23:05:58

Hand-crafted details
Bulletproof ™ 229cc Engine
Industry-leading 4 year factory warranty
Starts at $8800.

Uniform not included

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by Dave on 05/19/23 at 04:14:12

I think it is great that Janus has a following and can make motorcycles and sell them.....the bike just isn't one that works for the way I ride. The bikes don't have enough power to ride on the rural and mountain roads or highways, and the suspension is too primitive to provide comfort. Their marketing department needs to focus on the folks that will buy what they make....and I get that.

The same folks that buy the Janus will likely move up to the Ducati Scrambler or BMW R NineT......nice bikes that are probably fun to ride - but just don't appeal to me in a way that I would buy one.

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by Ruttly on 05/19/23 at 13:22:58

Devo

De Evolution

Going backward

Waay to $$$$$

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by Dave on 05/19/23 at 14:55:33

I went by the Harley dealer today to get some chrome polish for my neighbor........I figured Harley knows more about polishing chrome than anybody else!

I saw the new Sportster lineup - wow what a change! They have 3 models....one with a high pipes and two with low pipes. One with mid foot controls, the others are forward mounted. They have a new "Revolution" engine that is water cooled.

I asked the guy in the shop if they still go "Potato, potato, potato"? He said the engine is rattly and he didn't like them.....it may be he is not able to adapt to change and it might be a great engine - I dunno. Perhaps Harley is responding to the Indian Scout engine. The Sportster engine is the same one used in the Pan America although a smaller size. The salesman said the tuning varies from 90HP in the 975cc version to over 120 HP in the 1250.

Those sure are some "Phat" tires!

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by ohiomoto on 05/19/23 at 17:02:08

I think of Janus as art. Form over function. The people who buy them see them as functional art. It's not the motorcycle, it's the culture, it's the uniform. That's what Janus is selling.

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by MMRanch on 05/20/23 at 06:10:16

Hay guys , isn't that the same engine that comes on a lot of the China 250 machines ?

I had a "China" 250 (225cc) ATV that had what looked like that same engine. It had 5 forward gears and a Reverse where 1st gear should have been , it also had a regular pull lever clutch like a motorcycle. It was mild tuned and had good low-end pull , no valve rattle at 1500rpm .
It was chain drive with a 420 chain , and that was the down--fall of it.
So
I converted it to a 530 chain and put an automatic tensioner on it , then kept it for 3 or 4 years . After a while I got to wanting more power so I sold it and got a Honda 350 Rancher.

But

That little 250 motor was a nice little machine , it always started , never leaked or used any oil , and was "Pleasant" to drive ! :)

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/20/23 at 10:15:20

Mannn, I'd sure be unhappy to discover my almost Nine Thousand Dollar bike had a Chinese motor. If the bolts rust in a couple of years, then you might be onto something, but I'm not ready to believe that yet.

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by MMRanch on 05/21/23 at 20:33:28

Hay JOG
I've had some good and bad stuff from China. I got my son a china 110cc ATV when he was about 6 or 7 years old . His buddy had a 100cc (Honda 70 clone) at the same time. They rode them little machines all over our ranch like a couple of little hooligans' every chance they got for 10 or 12 years with-out hardly an oil change. The little ATV was still running the year my son was 21 years old and his girlfriends little brother needed a ride ( then they took it when they moved away) 6 months latter. :)
.................

I had a China 200 cc street legal dirt bike (Roketa) that thing vibrated so bad it was almost Unbelievable . A year earlier I had a China 150cc dirt bike that didn't vibrate at all. Come to find out : they both had the same bore size but different stroke. I figured the China factory just changed the stroke and didn't bother to rebalance the crank shaft ? :-/

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/21/23 at 20:52:24

figured the China factory just changed the stroke and didn't bother to rebalance the crank shaft ? Undecided

Meh,, why Would ya?

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by MMRanch on 05/22/23 at 20:54:30

That's part of the trouble with buying stuff off e-bay or face-book market place ! Ya don't get to test ride it but most of the time it works out just fine ... like the W650 , or the two LS650's I had for a while .

After thinking about it : That 200 Roketa was the only bad experience I've had with China bikes . :)

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by Dave on 05/25/23 at 05:11:46

I have had two recent experiences with Chinese manufactured stuff - both of them with the same result.

I bought a set of running boards for my SUV. They looked well made and the finish was pretty good, and they fit well. They attached without drilling any holes, and they had bolts and plates that squeezed onto the body flanges. When I tightened the bolts on one of the plates I could feel the threads start to "give" and strip at a tightness that was well below what I would have expected. I stopped trying to tighten those bolts as they were somewhat snug....they are holding adequately.

Yesterday the fellow at the campground we are staying wanted me to look at his new Chinese scooter he bought off eBay. He has only had it a few days and the fuel gauge on the scooter was still showing full even though he had been riding it and it a visual look in the tank showed the level of fuel was about half a tank. We removed the seat with two bolts and there were about 8 bolts that were 8x1.25 with a flanged head holding the plastic bodywork that covered the mechanical bits. As we removed the 8 bolts we discovered that 2 of them had threads that were somewhat stripped...they did come out but the threads were compromised. When we got the cover off I unplugged the wiring for the fuel sender in the tank and the gauge dropped - so I knew the gauge worked. I then reconnected the wiring and using a screwdriver I pushed down on the float in the fuel tank.....the gauge moved and proved the sender was connected and was working - the gauge just isn't very accurate and still shows full with half a tank gone. When we put it back together I put some anti-sieze on the bolts just to help prevent them from failing.....the two that were partially stripped would not tighten down completely as the threads were "boogered up".

It seems like some of the steel that comes from China is a bit soft for holding threads, and even when the folks at the factory tighten them they can fail.

I still buy some stuff made in China - there are some things that you really don't have much of an option. I have been wanting to buy a 2,200 to 2,500 watt inverter/generator - and the only real options are the Japanese made Honda or Yamaha at $1,300 to $1,600 - or the Chinese models for $500-$600. I have been reading a lot of reviews and the Honda is definitely the one to get if you use the generator a lot.....the Chinese copies are fine for those folks who want them for emergency backup or occasional use. It appears there are only a few makers: The Harbor Freight Predator, a model that is sold by a lot of different brand names and has a bit different bodywork but visually appears to be the same internally....the Westinghouse and Generac appear to be the same generator. I believe the Westinghouse is the one I am going to get - it has excellent reviews and is priced reasonably...and the customer service is reported to be excellent..

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/25/23 at 08:55:16

Local dealership Owner was helping me study a bike. I watched him as he ran a Coupla Tupperware retaining bolts. The dude has No Clue about how to use bolts. He cross threaded and forced them in. Sometimes it's the hardware and sometimes it's the Software.. Coupled with a muscle that knows nothing.
But,as Dave noted, the metal used to make bolts is sometimes really soft,,and anyone not paying attention can quickly strip them out.

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by ohiomoto on 05/25/23 at 17:09:09

When I had my motocross track I bought three Chi-Honda clone 3" water pumps. They cost about the same as one Honda pump and I figured I could use Honda parts on them. I had to replace the recoil assemblies early on when they failed. Not the end of the world.

But two of the three pumps were dead by the end of the first season and the third didn't make it through the second season. They all lost compression. They were junk.

We were hard on equipment. Most of these pumps spent their life on the back of water trucks going up and down hills in a dusty environment for hours on end. But the genuine Honda pumps lasted 3-6 years before they reached the point where it wasn't worth repairing them.

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by Dave on 06/09/23 at 07:05:24

Here is a used one. Two owners in 2,165 miles....that likely says something about how much they loved the bike.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/mcy/d/loveland-like-new-janus-halcyon-250/7630463814.html

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by Ruttly on 06/09/23 at 13:47:52

A special bike for Special rider !

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/23 at 09:59:59

4F74796E7F73686E757D706F1C0 wrote:

Website shows max speed of 70mph, but I've never run above 40mph.

So,,it won't Go over40?

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by Ruttly on 06/11/23 at 11:29:11

40 mph might be his threshold of FEAR ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Menus motorcycles
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/13/23 at 10:45:33

You spose that is where the speed induced tunnel vision kicks in? :D