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Message started by Ruttly on 03/26/23 at 10:43:28

Title: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/26/23 at 10:43:28

Spring is here , open practice at Lodi Cycle Bowl today and  TT coming up soon. I know I won’t be ready but maybe I can catch a TT near seasons end. It’s a good goal anyways. Mocking up the BSA , still needs frame/swingarm cleaned then assembly will begin. Most everything is cleaned and most everything is here (stuff ordered). Hopefully , have a roller with brakes , tank & seat by this time next week. I did say hopefully !  I was doing good with my $500 budget , but front brake pads and rear shocks broke the bank.
So I’m in for a penny and in for a pound , I won’t say I’m drawing the line cause I’ll go over it , but I’m at a whopping $900 , guess that’s still pretty good for a basket case project. Not to sure of its value , I really don’t know what a vintage BSA flat tracker will fetch , maybe as high as $5500. The coolest thing is it will also make a great road racer too. I gonna need leathers for that. Think they will let me TT in motocross gear. Gotta go clean the frame/swingarm. New shocks will need some aging , just enough so they don’t look new that would ruin the patina effect.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/27/23 at 10:35:36

Cleaning frame today , just maybe I’ll get some shocks today ! It has the possibility of rolling by morning. Stopping by Tuesday. Tank & seat by Wednesday. Image in my head , becoming clearer , even after a simple green bath  that I thought would leave the bike smelling like a urinal cake , nope she still fills the garage with her special smell of vintage motorcycles. Almost same smell as a motorcycle museum. My guitar room smells just like the guitar shop downtown. Vintage & expensive woods has a very special smell.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/27/23 at 22:12:57

Wrong shocks , that will be at least a week delay , way bummed
Turn it around and start at the other end
I’ll make a 13 1/2” strut to hold it up tomorrow and continue.  :(

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 03/28/23 at 08:25:14

So Ruttly , Your working on restoring an old BSA .

You mention the term "TT" makes me remember an old Honda 350 twin I had years ago that I wanted to put "TT-Pipes" on.    The curve of the TT's makes me grin !  :)

is yours the 500 or the 650cc ?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/28/23 at 10:46:14

MM , It’s a 1970 BSA B50MX 500cc single vintage flat tracker/ TT.  A TT is a flat track race with usually at least 2 right turns and a jump whereas flat track is wide open and turn left. TT pipes are downswept an under usually but not always out on the right. A guy who worked at the local dismantler built and raced it in the mid to late 70s. I think I got it in 82 , made it into a street tracker with mirror & lights , never had a lic plate , I didn’t worry they couldn’t catch me. It been a basket case for 40 years , no excuses , time flies , it’s time has come. Plan to build it as a race bike with all era correct parts so it looks just like it rolled off the track in the 70s. It also has optional front disc brake for TT racing. So by changing left side foot peg and adding a front brake it becomes a TT bike. Plan to do at least 1 TT race at Lodi maybe later this year. She is a very primitive beast and might be competitive in the vintage class , if not it will be hella fun to be back at the track again. That’s what it’s all about anyways. Maybe this is the reason she was mothballed for 40 years !  8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/28/23 at 21:31:25

MM , I used to really like the chrome TT pipes on the old CB450s and then later with the CB360 they had a 2 into 1 with TT pipes , ol skool. They were early street trackers. All of the 70s bikes is where I get my influences from the Savage tracker was to replace the BSA for a street bike like the SR500 and the Sportster did. They all are emulating Flat trackers either by oem design or mine , I don’t know how to stop , fevers a raging !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 03/29/23 at 04:01:40

Rage on brother.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/29/23 at 09:42:28

Todays rant. I’ve been seeing a modern electronic ignition for the BSA singles but I think it’s for street versions with lights with a full stator. The MX model only has a partial stator. About 1/3 on as compared to a full stator. Less weight and less magnetic drag with the 3 volt MX ignition. But like I said she is very primitive and still uses ignition points. I know I could probably adapt an electronic ignition to it from like a lawn mower or weed whipper. I would rather the points system. The rotor is the same rotor only the stator is different making 3 to 4 volts , after that there is only points , condenser , coil and a kill switch. Did some digging the hot set up was a Mallory condenser from a hot rod ignition( huge brass cased condenser ) and an Accel solid core spark plug wire with silicone plug cap. Did more digging found both condenser and plug wire with cap and a new set of oem points. Going back to school here , setting points and timing , might have to make a static timing light to help indicate the points opening for static timing , then when it’s running set timing with a timing light. I still have timing lights , dwell meters , vacuum gauges for the ol skool stuff. Speaking of dwell the MX model uses a different mechanic advance unit than the street models , street uses a 12 degree advance unit while the MX uses a 5 degree. Also the 5 degree unit has been advanced to full advance and welded in that position. Flat track wfo slow wfo slow wfo slow , so this gives me instant advance and instant and crazy throttle response. I never lost a drag race on that bike it beat Honda 500 , Yamaha SR/XT/TT , Suzuki 370 and give the twins a bad time too. I get to use my forgotten skills  for points & timing. Can’t wait to see a big fat purple spark !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/29/23 at 10:01:22

Wait a minute we’re talking Lucas electronics , I’ll settle for any spark what so ever , I’ll take it.
 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/29/23 at 10:24:01

She is a fair weather bike not for riding in the rain , unless you enjoy the electric chair ! Yeah once your both good a wet , if your left knee gets anywhere near the spark plug wire your still safe , till you rev up gettin ready for a 5000 rpm shift from 3rd to 4th and your fingers reach for the clutch lever

BAM you just provided the ground to the positive ground system , you are officially lit up. The smell of burning flesh and hair lingers in your helmet. Almost enough to make you drop the bike. Your fairly well insulated by the rubber pegs and grips in the rain , but go ahead touch the clutch , I dare ya

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 03/29/23 at 19:17:33

I'm glad you can understand all that !   :)

The HEI was one of the best things that came out of the 70's , I think .

I never quite understood the point system except that the motor fired when the points opened and the points needed cleaning once in a while.


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/29/23 at 20:10:37

I agree , the hei was the best thing to happen since rubber tires. But this is no girly man bike with a rev limiter , this will rev till the valve float , straighten out you elbows and make your as$ cheeks pinch the seat cover , hanging on for life. I wouldn’t want to change a thing. I used to keep half of a broken points file in my wallet.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 03/30/23 at 05:07:16

“straighten out you elbows and make your as$ cheeks pinch the seat cover , hanging on for life”

Yes indeed; a light weight big single, properly set up & rightly tuned, wide open and pulling hard … Yeeee Haaaa !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/30/23 at 10:41:38

A B50 MX stock about 310 lbs , not exactly light. If I had to guess mine is right about 300 lbs still heavy in the flat track realm. I’m not one for lightening everything it has to be tough & durable. Old vintage stuff is
different not as refined as modern singles all those valves and counter balancers with electronic ignitions of course they are faster , smoother. The   power delivery is much less refined , much more primitive more like riding a worn out carnival ride. Scary at times , hella fun , can’t wait for it to scare the hell out of me.
Again !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/31/23 at 11:16:42

Did a quick polish job on the aluminum tank. That is the only part I’m gonna hit with an electric buffer & polish. Everything else is hand cleaned with Simple Green. Most of the patina is gone leaving a nicely aged bike , but have no fear , patina cleaned not removed , it will slowly reappear as time goes on. A step back in time , in a sense part of my going up. Besides the grips & tires & peg rubbers , nothing has been changed. A Time Machine right down to the points. Ooh shocks n stuff gettin delivered today , gonna burn some midnight oil. The roller will emerge tomorrow and greet her first dose of sunlight in 21 years. How cool is that !   8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 03/31/23 at 13:04:19

Very.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/01/23 at 08:47:13

The Savage and the Honda TLR200 were both educational in learning not to overlook anything. Mock ups can’t be skipped , or you wind up with do over that leads to another mock up. Ah yes our best tool , no not the hammer , pen & paper , make a list for every mock up. Don’t overlook anything , make notes(new list) , some issues take an adjustment or two. Got a couple of items off the list and find the stand for it before I roll it outside for some way overdue sunlight.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/02/23 at 10:57:15

Roller set out front for an hour , lots slowing down to look , especially motorcycles. She’s rough but gettin better. Waiting on seal snap rings to finish front forks and front brake and a shock spring compressor , I like to remove spring from shocks to check travel , make sure tire and chain have adequate clearance in there area of travel. This is important part of mock ups , with no springs on shocks checking clearance and any binding , chain adjustment. Remember your chain is tightest when rear axle , swingarm pivot , counter shaft are lined up. After that find total travel when bottomed out , at this point you can make chain adjustment , go back and forth to find that sweet spot. When you’re satisfied with travel and clearances. Put springs back on shock , now you know for sure it’s right , there are no doubts , most important , no do overs ! She already has that rock solid feel ,  steers & rolls like a race bike. That and some little details too !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/03/23 at 01:00:24

I had posted dry weight at 310 lbs, well that’s wrong. All the road going B50 are 309-310 lbs dry weight. The MX model weighs in at a trim 240 lbs. I’ll be goin to Wallyworld to buy a couple bathroom scales to weigh the beast when she’s all dressed out and then check the Savage and Honda too. I’m  real happy with 240 lbs over that 310 lbs , possibly lighter. Haven’t yet pulled the trigger on that vintage Borrani rear rim , that may shave a pound or two , not a lot after that unless I start drilling vent holes in everything. But that’s not gonna happen.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 04/03/23 at 06:15:22


557273736B7E070 wrote:
I’ll be goin to Wallyworld to buy a couple bathroom scales to weigh the beast when she’s all dressed out and then check the Savage and Honda too.


A couple months ago I went to the Thrift Store and bought a good working scale for $5.  You can use just 1 scale if you put the other wheel on a 2x4 or something that is equal in height to the scale...so the bike stays level.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/03/23 at 09:05:09

Thanks Dave , Goodwill store bout a mile. Yeah I like the old mechanical style. I just read that using a bathroom scale is just as accurate as other methods +/- 1% for weighing motorcycles. I don’t think there will be much of a difference , my guess is 236 lbs dry.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/03/23 at 10:05:58

At a stand still , waitin on stuff to show up. I been goin at it hard. Take a few days to chill. I want the roller to be ready to accept engine , all suspension & brakes  & controls done. I have everything needed for the engine and it’s already on the bench. A quick repair and give it a Simple Green shower and in the frame she goes. Then it’s all details after that.
I finished the Honda awhile back , Tracker needs seat & horn to finish it and if I finish  Beezer , I will have finished 3 bikes  in a year , a first for me. The SR500 will be next on the lift table and I don’t see it getting done this year. It’s gonna need tires & hoses , timing & jetting and a whole lotta cleaning.  At this rate I may have to build the Sportster too ! I still want another lift table. Gonna take that opportunity when beezer is done is to dig out the SR. Line them all up in the driveway for a very special Kodak moment !     :o

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 04/03/23 at 11:12:59

You best be sharing that photo dude, when you have it.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/04/23 at 07:09:59

It might take a minute to get the sporty out but the SR. It looks like a pyramid stuff stacked on both sides and on top , bike covered in multiple sheets/blankets beneath it all , flat tires. Half the day , easy. I keep pickin at the pile , I got some time before picture day.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 04/04/23 at 15:56:23


1E39383820354C0 wrote:
It looks like a pyramid stuff stacked on both sides and on top



I worked with a fellow that was a hoarder...and so was his wife.

When the stuff got piled high and collapsed - they called it a "Crapalanche"! ;)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/04/23 at 23:14:32

Thanks Dave

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/04/23 at 23:26:18

I puttin up that wall of denial. I am a collector collector collector collector collector of all things vintage !
Hey it’s kept me out of the prison system for all these years !    :D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 04/05/23 at 04:47:35


16313030283D440 wrote:
I puttin up that wall of denial. I am a collector collector collector collector collector of all things vintage !
Hey it’s kept me out of the prison system for all these years !    :D



A Nobel effort that is.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/05/23 at 09:33:01

Bike building must be a passion for me  , all my other hobbies may be a bit stressful at times. Hobbies come & go ! It’s something I been doing since I was 8 with my first Nova mini bike , it’s like your favorite comfort food. It’s second nature , relaxing , where I wanna be.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/08/23 at 18:26:22

Just got back from safari, locating our lost chihuahua in the back yard that hasn’t been mowed since the week before Thanksgiving. Yard was trashed by all those winter storms. Finish the pool tomorrow , then it’s ready for some r & r , bbqs & pool fun. First mock up was successful. Rear hub has a bad bearing pocket has a tad to much diameter , I’m runnin it till I get another , then it becomes the spare. I found a rear rim that matches the front rim and also found a stock rear hub that’s been lightened & polished. The hub with new bearings and brake backing plate too. Trying to swing a better deal on the pair , they will work good together. All still vintage and era correct. Building an era correct vintage flat tracker isn’t as easy as you might think.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 04/09/23 at 03:52:01

Besides parts, I watch eBay for BSA’s of any variety that come up.  There isn’t a lot of them at any one time, maybe a half dozen, but there sure are some nice examples for sale, and most are decently priced.  
There are some really nice ones out there.
I would need a lot more $$ and a new larger barn to house them though.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/09/23 at 11:39:31

If I ever win the lotto , purchase a small warehouse and start a shop/museum with at least 4 lifts and some space. No bike be allowed into the collection unless it’s 100% road/race ready or it’s stays in warehouse till it is. Generally I don’t need much space to build , storage always takes the most room. I don’t know how but when a bike is done there’s 5 to 10 boxes of spare crap , some worth saving some not. Getting my crapalanche of motorcycle parts organized will take some time. I’m a COLLECTOR , I hate being forced to sell m/c due to lack of space. I wish I had back every one of my m/c I ever owned. It’s my history and it hurts to sell it. Not quite sure but it would be around 25-30 bikes , many BSAs,Honda,Yamaha.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 04/19/23 at 11:56:21

Hey Ruttly!

I got the Savage out for the first ride today.......spring does make a fellow do strange things! ;)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 04/19/23 at 16:32:25

Did your wife know what you were doing ?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by J Mac on 04/19/23 at 18:27:15

I thought our top speed was 80-something.  Oh, maybe that's stock.  :D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/20/23 at 12:27:52

That’s more like it Dave ! I knew she’s got it in her. Thank You for stepping up your game , at 101 I knew I could beat that. At 107 well let’s just say , l gots a huge grin and very happily accept. I can almost get my leg over the BSA but haven’t tried the tracker yet. So do tell us all about the conditions , that were obviously really good. Time of day , temperature , downhill , wind at your back , backpack full of bowling balls. More than one run ? I bet it felt good , maybe a tad scary ?
Inquiry Minds want to know , spill the beans , all the dirty little details , give it up Super Dave. Ok , finish tracker seat or not , it’s the BSAs turn on the lift. Someone has thrown the gauntlet down , I freakin love it !

Oh yeah congratulations !   :o

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/20/23 at 12:31:43

No nitrous , right , Dave ?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/20/23 at 12:35:48

Spring Fever is definitely infectious
Long winter does that

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 04/20/23 at 18:36:20

Well...the truth is not as exciting as the lie! ::)

Last year when I was riding the Cherohala Skyway with Armen.....my battery cable came loose and my speedo and tach went crazy.  All that electrical mayhem tricked my speedo and tach into recording bogus numbers.

101.1 is still my best "real" speed, and there is really no reason to try and improve that with my current setup....it just doesn't want to go any faster.  A better header/muffler would likely help - my current setup has a nice sound, but is likely a bit restrictive.

In the future for this bike is a 97mm flat top piston, a bigger header and less restrictive muffler....and a steering damper.  This bike gets really wiggly as you approach 100mph!  

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/20/23 at 20:56:42

Ok you got me , bad ! I was excited for you , got me all excited. I’m always ready for a challenge. I was skeptical about the 8000 rpm , default numbers. I should have known. Throw that gauntlet down anytime , I’ll be ready. Just for that I’m gonna ride it this weekend. Found a perfect road not far from here , a bit over a mile and straight & flat , no trees for gps. Try out my new skid lid !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 04/21/23 at 03:34:31

When I started my bike up yesterday and saw those numbers....I just had to do something with them!  They couldn't just be erased and forgotten.

The unfortunate thing about the way the GPS records the maximums....is that they are not necessarily concurrent.  If you hit the maximum rpm in third gear yesterday...and the maximum mph today - then those are the numbers displayed.


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/21/23 at 05:25:04

Can’t wait to try the GPS , big fun , instant gratification. Most of my SR500s would pull 107 with stock gears , no reason tracker can’t do it , absolutely obtainable !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/23/23 at 09:42:27

Hey Dave , I might be out and about today  , testing gps. Stop & get a shot of super , just cruise it downtown. No speed runs , nice & easy , no stupid stuff (yeah right). Check out the Dunlops , wanna find the R/R crossing but the hip says NO. I’ll bring my phone just in case I need to record any accidental crossings into the Ton territory. I’m changing the name of that road I found to Ton Rd.  That area prone to flooding during snow melt especially this year , yesterday it was 90 so it’s a comin. Keep telling myself slow and easy , not sure I know how !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 04/23/23 at 10:24:43


684F4E4E56433A0 wrote:
Hey Dave , I might be out and about today  , testing gps. Stop & get a shot of super , just cruise it downtown. No speed runs , nice & easy , no stupid stuff (yeah right). Check out the Dunlops , wanna find the R/R crossing but the hip says NO. I’ll bring my phone just in case I need to record any accidental crossings into the Ton territory. I’m changing the name of that road I found to Ton Rd.  That area prone to flooding during snow melt especially this year , yesterday it was 90 so it’s a comin. Keep telling myself slow and easy , not sure I know how !  



Baby steps dude.




Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/23/23 at 22:17:09

Baby steps , now he tells me ! Ok , first ride was successful , that means I’m alive.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/24/23 at 00:26:05

First rides are always exciting , this ride fit the bill. A slow putt down the block & back. Love the big single , its is a compact bike. Straight to get a tankful then out of town , pulled over to mess with gps , tried to set for a speed , did a nice hole shot on the edge in the gravel but it didn’t work. So tried again , hole-shot really wound her up & that Dunlop grabbed the roadway went straight up in the air my left grip came off the bars. Now I’m on a one handed wild as$ed wheelie wfo in first the bars turned right when a I lost the left grip so I had to keep the wheelie up till I could throw the grip and then grab the bars  , straighten up then set it down all staying in my lane. Never a dull moment kept it wfo 2nd , 3rd  traffic , shut it down at 87 mph and was unable to reset for another run. Hard to set with gloves on I’ll have to figure it out. Bike was strong , brakes good , Dunlop 404s surprised me , went thru a huge gravel patch in an intersection , pulled clutch in she drifted thru it like a race bike. Carb needs a tune , she runs well and has no problems passing. Collect my grip from the road side and head home , hip did not like that wheelie , I thought it was cool I didn’t die. When I built it I filled the bars with silicone to cut vibrations. Done same thing to all my bars for years. After 6-7 years it started ooz a oily crap that ate my grip glue , throttle side came right off when I got home. Some crappy silicone I guess , I gotta clean out the bars and glue grips back on. Found a country style meat market today too. Ummm Burgers ! ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/24/23 at 20:46:54

Just ordered new bars and grips. Bars 32 1/2 a bit wider than 29 1/2 a little less cramped. For me wider is better. Gonna glue these on and maybe some screws too. The surprise one handed wheelie really put a lot of pressure on the hip when grip came off. Your first thought is to put it back on , by then you’ve crashed , but you still have to look at it in your hand and give it some choice swear words before you cast it aside. I did check all the bolts,axles,forks just not the grips !!!    ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 04/25/23 at 03:20:14

Never a dull moment eh ?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/25/23 at 11:04:23

A very short ride , but I was out and about. Just some two way tape and packing foam for a seat , that’s how bad I needed to ride. Last ride was before Thanksgiving. That big single sure is satisfying to ride. Need a longer ride for some therapy , not only do I need to heal the hip I need to heal the soul !  8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 04/25/23 at 20:45:14

Well Dave , I would have thought that 107mph would be plenty doable with your bike having the double "up" gearing and the better than stock HP.  

I miss the the torque of the 650 sometimes .   On the good side of that is that I drive like my age now , and the bike I have helps with all that !   ;)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/27/23 at 11:36:02

[quote author=445644565B48474A41090 link=1679852608/45#49 date=1682480714]Well Dave , I would have thought that 107mph would be plenty doable with your bike having the double "up" gearing and the better than stock HP.    :-/

Me too , MM

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/27/23 at 11:53:21

They sent the wrong bars for the tracker. Sent me the bars I already have not the 32 1/2” width. Back back back , at that price. I can buy these for  $50 delivered. 1” custom bars are not cheap ! Cause they can hang the “fits  Harley” tag on them and that adds $100 to the price. Another reason not to buy/build another Harley , stupid prices.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/29/23 at 00:07:51

Finally found a set of bars , but I’ll see what they send me. By measurements , very similar to a flat track bend , the model is the Daytona bend. I ain’t excited yet , now I gotta fire the Sportster up. Nice n slow no wheelies no R/R tracks. Ooh a real seat what a treat !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Savard 05 on 05/01/23 at 11:19:31

Nice

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 05/01/23 at 13:42:56

I hope my first ride is only half that exciting, and nothing comes off!  :o

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/01/23 at 14:40:18

Definitely add grips to your pre trip check list !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/02/23 at 12:37:09

Still waiting on the new bars to arrive. Gave up on trying to remove that decomposing silicone from inside the bars , I tried alcohol,acetone,wd40,paint thinner,pb blaster. No luck , I’m looking for some freeze plugs that fit in the bars to just cap them off. I doubt I’ll use them again unless these new bars aren’t right. I had noticed I was reaching too far and bars seem so crowded , a bit more width & pullback should be  just what I need. Comfort is paramount , it’s not a comfortable bike but still you have to have your controls where you’re not reaching to grips or pegs.
Rearset controls bends the knees a bit so it’s not a touring bike for sure , but it does keep you in the aggressive body position.I call it the $hit n git position. I’m trying to get where I only need to slide my butt on the seat , no reaching , comfort allows your brain to concentrate on the ride and not  the discomfort, better focus , better lap times , better rider !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/03/23 at 14:56:45

Spring my as$ we got another 16-18” of snow in the mountains. Ski resorts planning on being open till July 4th ! It poured for 4 hrs at work last night. At least it delays fire season for a bit.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 05/04/23 at 04:14:57


755253534B5E270 wrote:
Spring my as$ we got another 16-18” of snow in the mountains. Ski resorts planning on being open till July 4th ! It poured for 4 hrs at work last night. At least it delays fire season for a bit.


No snow here.....but it has been light frost most mornings and we did get some hail last Saturday.  The daytime highs have been in the 40-50's.

I rode to dinner with some "Biker Trash" friends last night - it was 60 degrees when I rode to dinner at 5PM........47 degrees on the way home at 8PM.  At least it was dry and the winds were reasonable.

I have been watching the weather down in Suches, GA to spend a couple days riding.......temperatures at night are in the 30's.  It is  still too cold in the mornings to entice me down there for a few days riding.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/04/23 at 13:24:33

Oh yeah , new bars just showed up. Very near to the previous bars but wider tad more pull back. Not a true flat track bend but its tracker bend is low and is close enough for me. The wider low bend is a better look than a f/t bend , staying true to the compact look of the bike. A very subtle change that I believe will impact the looks. Got to get rid of those Dunlops , loose bobber look , get that , evil look back !  Gotta go do my 8 , be home late and be up till I can ride it.  Hope they look as good or better than the vision I have in my head. Seat seat seat seat seat , it’s gonna have to wait , again

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/04/23 at 21:45:30

Hope cables hose wiring can reach without problems , cause I think she’s gonna get some of her evil back. The bends on either side of the clamps are further out and when your over fork looking down , your looking straight down the fork legs like a race bike , the other bars hid that view.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/05/23 at 14:07:05

I was correct , the subtle change of wider bars has impacted the looks in a dramatic fashion. Can’t believe l didn’t do this years ago. Buddy of mine rode a stripped down Bonniville in a street tracker style 40 years ago and that bike was a massive influence to me , he still owns it. Low wide bars , TT pipes and a narrow aftermarket sportster seat and chrome rear fender. When I talk about shapes and lines , his bike has them all ! Now 33” wide  my old bars 29 1/2”. Gettin her evil back a little at a time  8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/07/23 at 09:39:24

First dry day in a week , blue sky above , clean dry roads below. A perfect morning to disappear into the farm roads south of town. Avoid people and traffic , just me & the tracker. Some ram air induction to clear the head & a long therapy session. Maybe collect some data , but this is ride to enjoy  the big single , I’m in a desperate need of some  “Thump Therapy “ and an even greater need to get away from people. Time to silence the voices in my head. ::)


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/08/23 at 00:15:13

Wow a lazy 40 mile ride in farm country went near perfect. Perfect cool damp air, almost chilly , great riding temperature. Didn’t even mess with gps just out for a ride. Not as quick as the last gearing but has a sweet spot at 74 mph for cruising. The wider bars are very elegant looking and super comfortable. Tried to get in a tucked position , flat track style but that lasts for about 10 seconds before my hip starts screaming no way. She needs bigger jets , she’s gonna get a bigger carb with bigger jets. She’s a runner, kicked my butt in 40 miles came home and had to take a nap. It’s gonna take some time to become one with it ! I need to weigh the Flying Pig.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 05/08/23 at 17:57:48

I have come a long way with mine, but there is still a looong way to go.  Glad to hear you are out enjoying yours!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/08/23 at 20:01:26

Thanks Sneeze , A few loose ends to finish up. I keep feeding it bigger jets and it keeps going faster. Now it gettin a bigger carb. Fuel mileage may suck(literally) but it’s big fun.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/13/23 at 10:52:59

Grips appear to be secure to the bars , used hairspray on the throttle side to plastic throttle sleeve. However hairspray failed on the left against the smooth chrome bars. Found paint thinner reacts to rubber grip and so far it’s as good or better than most grip glues. Yeah maybe I’m just a little paranoid about my grips after that one handed wheelie. Absolutely love the wide bars super comfy and look even better. I’m gonna use the same bars on my SR500 too , but in a 7/8”. Hip is painful when all tucked in so I just rest left leg on top of the peg near the top of my boot. I have to adapt and overcome this problem , just can’t hold that folded up position for long. Not like I use that position a lot, but after 50 years it’s just part of how I was taught how to ride/slide. I have to adapt and leg on the peg is working.
Sunday morning , early before it gets hot , cool damp morning air really lets her put down some good passes. Once it’s hot it’s harder to get that last few mph. Running only one mirror , that mirror causes an unstable condition above 90 mph ,  no mirrors , on speed runs , but bring it with case I get pulled over , tell them it came loose. At 90+ ya dont want a wobble , huh
Dave !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 05/13/23 at 13:23:52

Wobbles are not authorized. [ch127949]

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by ohiomoto on 05/15/23 at 17:54:19


042322223A2F560 wrote:
At 90+ ya dont want a wobble , huh
Dave !

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As long as you don't fall down...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq_PoVQQzRs[/media]

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/18/23 at 13:53:36

Those new wider bars are so nice I bought another pair for my SR500 , next project after the BSA. In a 7/8” bar for the SR , Bikemaster Daytona bend , $29. In a 1” bar for the tracker , Bikemaster Daytona bend , ( fits Harley sticker ) $80 ! A whooping $51 difference and these were a good deal , a set of Flanders 1” bars $190 for a chromed piece of pipe ! I’m in the wrong business !      ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/18/23 at 17:06:16


7578777A7C6B2B2E190 wrote:
Wobbles are not authorized. [ch127949]


Neither are Weebles.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/21/23 at 23:46:24

Yeah I’m looking for a mirror solution but I was thinking it’s all in my head put the mirror back on wind her up good ,not a wobble maybe a shimmy. Had a similar feeling right before a death wobble tank slapper when I managed to smash my nuts 3 times before crashing on the edge of the road. And I won’t ever forget that crash , on my BSA. Think those mirrors came off my sportster. Gone shopping.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/22/23 at 13:54:39

Another eventless 40 mile ride , so I did some 0-60 runs for cheap fun. Went by a builder friends place to check out his Suzuki 500 twin smoker , one of the worst handling bikes. It’s cafe style with long sexy chambers it’s cool I’m sure it fast , had to secure a chance to take it for a spin. He’s got 8-9 bikes , we met on another forum. I’ve sold him some stuff before. So he didn’t see what I was riding. So I kinda lead him in that direction , when he saw what I was riding the conversation turned for his project to mine. After a few minutes I asked him if he wanted to take it for a spin , he couldn’t believe I was going to let him ride it. He absolutely does not ride like me , a calm ,reserved, mature rider so my bike was safe , I wasn’t even worried about the bike. Now me I ride like I had 4 cups of joe and a bowl full of crank for breakfast , kinda like riding with your hair on fire. So he really really likes my bike even if it’s a tad small for him. So we are planning an early morning ride on the tracker and his SR500. After riding my bike he made a comment about building a Savage
So let me recap this , a nice 40 ride , secured a ride on a rocket ship , watched while the first person rode my bike , and may have recruited a new member fo SS ! A good day

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/30/23 at 00:59:02

Ordered seat pad & cover and new carb for the tracker. Put some small mirrors on , replaced some crap mirrors with some inexpensive mirrors. Well they look good and keep it legal (well just this side legal ). Found a replacement tire for that tire I had that got recalled. I still have the front tire . So I bought the tire , 2 tubes , 2 rim bands. Get it all ready for a winter project. She’s definitely getting her evil back , new bars and mirrors , new tires again. Photo shoot , naw ! The BSA TT bike is still moving forward , finishing rear brake before moving to the front disc brake. I fabbed a chain roller , too ! After chassis is done I’ll wire it , make a quick engine repair and in it goes , carb & pipe are waiting.Next up on the table 1980 Yamaha SR500. Better weather means get my 55 F100 running and sell it , bye bye!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 05/30/23 at 21:41:59


496E6F6F77621B0 wrote:
Now 33” wide  my old bars 29 1/2”. Gettin her evil back a little at a time  8-)


This comment made me whip out a tape measure and check out my tracker bars.  29-1/8".  Dang, dude!  Yours are Wiiiiiiiide!


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/30/23 at 22:12:32

Mine were about the same as yours , always reaching , stressing lower back.
The 33” have more pullback and it’s harder to get tucked in , but super comfy and look even better. Years ago most flat track bars were 36” , trim to fit. Bars made a huge difference, she’s a pleasure to ride , nothing like a big bore thumper. A very satisfying bike to ride.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 05/30/23 at 22:19:11

Definitely Not good bars for lane splitting !!! ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/01/23 at 13:52:40

Ooh a seat showed up . Doesn’t quite look like it’s going to fit. Think I’ll use the cover with my padding and a seat pan I made or a pan I may have to make from aluminum. Nevertheless it’s going to get a seat sooner than later. A replacement rear tire and tubes on the way , she will regain her evil menacing stance when done. Can’t wait to get rid of the truck tires I have on it (Dunlop 404s) make it look like a bobber. Goal is /was to have a look  that she is ready to out run local Leo’s, absolutely menacing , looking for trouble , just oozing evil from any angle , that’s what I’m after ! Years & years of riding cookie cutter bikes , kinda like my father giving me & my brother crew cuts once a month , forever and now I only cut my hair once a year. Well that has transcended into an endless project with an open budget. I’m too old to be running from Leo but I love it  when I’m at a intersection and Leo won’t take his eyes off me in anticipation of me doing something stupid and running , yup that’s the look ! 8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/02/23 at 20:17:37

New rear tire coming from Spain. I can’t believe how much this bike rules my need for the perfect ( in my eyes ) stance for this bike . But new tires won’t go on till winter. 2 tires , tubes and rim bands will be ready and waiting. Ride it tomorrow to get a caliper for the BSA and then I’ll down it for the seat. Then it’s time to spark the sporty .

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/06/23 at 14:22:32

Seat I bought was not a good fit to the tail section. So took it apart , pan  , pad , cover all seperated. Off to the hardware store , scored a nice piece black foam. And there it all sits . I hate downing this bike for anything other than oil changes. When the time is right , I might need RIDE it in the meanwhile. Right. Without a seat.
The seat will be the stamp on the bike as done. I think in my mind I don’t want the say it’s done , a mental block that has been keeping me from finishing the bike.
There it sits !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/07/23 at 12:30:11

Yeah I was out riding it with no seat , my hip hurts , that’s enough of that.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by ohiomoto on 06/08/23 at 07:19:43

Ruttly's ailments...

http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/Tracker.jpeg

http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/BSA500.jpeg

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/08/23 at 14:37:51

With more misery in the garage.    ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 06/10/23 at 07:26:38

Hey, Rutt - I sent you an email.  Let me know what you think (time sensitive).

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/10/23 at 16:44:40

Well now that the 2.0 Version of the tracker is almost complete. I ain’t wasting anytime planning the 3.0.
And you thought it was dun ! No rear disc brake keeping the drum brake.
Loose the gps , replace with a mini tach or just nothing at all. A pure focus bike maybe one small mirror to be legal , absolutely no distractions. Swap out the old larger turn signals on the forks some tiny front turn signals on the bars and leaving the problem of indicator lights for high beam & t/s & neutral light. No severe changes , a leaner look , no distractions !
And better tires too

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Edub on 06/10/23 at 23:02:36


7A5D5C5C4451280 wrote:
With more misery in the garage.    ;D

Sweet jeebus! That looks amazing!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/11/23 at 11:34:33

Thanks Edub , Wish I could take better pics , not a great pic.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/14/23 at 12:35:03

The seat is done , till winter. Looks ok , wife says we ARE going to Corbin seats and have them make one , I bought some time said ok this winter. I’m goin ridin ! It is comfy but I haven’t actually ridden it , I’ll let my butt write that review ! And somewhat signifying  completion , that will be the day !
But now she’s a turn key daily rider ! And not a moment too soon.

Adventure , so many roads

Just Ride

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 06/15/23 at 07:48:15

I know Corbin has been around forever, and does really good quality work.  But you may want to consider getting a quote from the guy who did mine.

http://www.tuffside.com

I made my own pan using 1/8" thick ABS plastic, and formed it to shape using heat.  Shipped him the pan, and was blown away with his work when it came back.  Never hurts to get multiple sources.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/16/23 at 08:42:25

That’s hella funny my seat pan was previously a truck mud flap 3/16-1/4” thick , foam from hardware store and cover from another tracker seat. My $7 H/F heat gun does wonders for shaping plastic. It’s a seat. Saturday I’m  gonna test it out. Then back on the BSA brakes.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/18/23 at 13:32:02

Happy Fathers Day to all its applies to. Well I didn’t do crap on Saturday but bbq. I got sucked into working Fathers Day , night shift for a 10-12 hr shift.  Not real enthusiastic about it and hope they don’t expect much , LOL.    >:(

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/18/23 at 20:40:57

Well the BSA is coming along , chain roller is done , rear brake very near done , front brake still has some fab work to do. Now only 99.2% vintage now , a friend let me dig thru his box of grom brake parts trying to find a caliper , gave me many ideas. Wound up buying a rear caliper from a Chinese grom clone , yeah bottom of the barrel but still has 50 yrs more technology than that Hurst Airheart caliper. I picked a small single piston caliper from the rear to go on the front. Pads are a perfect fit for the small 10” rotor. I have to fab up a mounting bracket. Must finish brakes before sparky smokey can happen !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/20/23 at 10:58:11

Think I’m ready to pull engine out of the frame , back on the bench. The rolling chassis will remain on table till it’s done. Brakes , pegs , wiring will be finished before it get the repaired engine back. Tank , seat , number plates ,
carb , and exhaust all ready go.
Oh yeah , building a race bike , Big Fun !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/21/23 at 19:58:59

Ooh a new rear Continental tire just appeared at my door from half way around the world , Spain to be exact.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 06/21/23 at 21:49:14

Pictures Ruttly Pictures ... Please  :)

I've never went into putting the rolling chassis up on the work bench to do the details , you must have a really nice shop .    

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/22/23 at 11:13:07

Well , My shop is nothing but a small cramped dusty garage. I’ve been building bikes since I was 14. Don’t need a lot of space just a work bench and the table. On my third bike since I got the table , if you have the room , it a worthwhile purchase , the table is the best thing I’ve done , love it. I’m totally ghetto after seeing Sneeze’s shop , I dream about having a real shop with a lathe & mill , drill press. Imagine what I could build if I had a shop like that ! Yes I’m jealous. I’ll just keep building my “garage bikes” , as long as I’m still impressing myself , I’m good !   8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 06/22/23 at 18:58:44

I'm too lazy to do a real build on anything.   I'd rather take a ride , then only when necessary do maintenance.

Ride somewhere every day if possible.   ;)


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 06/25/23 at 18:22:29

It’s so hard not to do some trail trimming on the tracker. I rode bald tires when I was young , teaches you how far you push the envelope so street tires on the dirt is just fun for me. I think it’s having to clean it is the only deterrent keeping me out of the dirt. I need a total thrasher for when I’m in that mood. However , she is a pleasure to ride when you got room to stretch her legs a bit. She has a hard time behaving in town , so I gas up and head out in the sticks. Let her rip , put her carbon footprint down , she really loves to run. Freeway , she’s does fine , it me that hates it ! She is much more tame than it was before , was horrible on the freeway.  Try to ride it every chance I get , she begs to be ridden.  Guess a small street legal trail bike with a happy button is needed. Sliding around in the dirt is great exercise and great practice for street riding.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/26/23 at 05:58:42

IDK if the stock tires are still like greased owl snot, but when the rear tire on my 05 showed me it was dangerous on hot,dry asphalt I talked about it here , but because I hadn't ridden in decades I chose to run it instead of replace it.
IDK where I read it, maybe it was Twist of the wrist,, but I know I read somewhere that people who have dirtbike experience tend to avoid falling better on asphalt. Makes sense.. Really,, the immediate physical response to the rear end sliding needs to be using yerass to push the seat in the direction of the slide, which takes some exposure to That Moment to learn.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 07/04/23 at 13:42:07

Exactly , it is exposure to loss of control/traction. Fun for some and absolutely terrifying for others !
 Back in the day I had Honda 175 twin , it was my flat track practice bike.
Front brake was gutted , fiberglass tank , smaller off road seat & plastic rear fender. Engine smoked a tiny bit on r/s but ran great , I rejetted it , straight pipes , loud and fast all on 2 very bald Dunlop k70s with an almost nonexistent rear brake. Local LEOs never even got close to catching me on that bike , terrorize the town , run just for fun , hid the bike for some months , before unleashing the tiny terror again. Things got hot , local Leo’s we’re getting smarter ( after 2+years of trying to catch me )
I had to remove it by dark of night and gave it away , far away. Haven’t seen it since. That was a fun bike and as always I wish I still had it ! As I remember it was given to me in exchange for a small debt , guy raced flat track.
The Good Ole Days !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 07/04/23 at 14:23:29

I had a loafer hanging around my shop yesterday evening.  Well, on top of my shop, actually.  That is one big owl sitting on the pitch!!  It's getting ready to sweep the back yards looking for dinner.  Good thing our only pet is a labrador!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 07/05/23 at 11:26:20

Very special visitor indeed , keeping rodent & snake populations in check
It’s just trying to survive
Get bats up there too ?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 07/05/23 at 21:23:12

Oh yeah.  And every critter in between. Coyote, bear, mountain lion, bobcat, rabbits, deer, quail, dove, bald eagles, hawks of all flavors.  And the rare and elusive baja bug.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 07/05/23 at 22:11:48

It needs a keg a tap and a red cup dispenser !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 07/05/23 at 23:10:44

Was out lookin for some new roads to buzz east of town real easy to get lost if you’re not paying attention. The bike loves to run , at 90+ she gets twitchy , give me something to fix this winter.  Did a couple 0-60 runs. I need a spot to holeshot , the same spot for consistency for 0-60 & 1/4 mile. Anyways a good ride on a great day , got home it was still early and uncovered the sporty turn on the gas pull choke took a second before she fired off since about Halloween. Took it for a shortened loop ,handled weird , 2 flat tires , went home. Kinda like ridin on plums or tomatoes. Good day , two good rides , two real fun bikes. My girls run me hard today ,I’m real tired

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 07/19/23 at 14:23:07

Was out n about the other day and the tracker has developed a need for a fuel filter. With the tank having been modified twice and then an internal sealer applied. She would haul as$ but it felt like it was starving out at wot then when you roll off it it gets bad and stalls , it’s a blockage in float bowl. When I get a minute I’ll carefully remove carb to a clean pan and dissect it . I want to see what’s causing the problem. Maybe toss the 36 into the ever growing  Mikuni box and put that brand spankin new 38 on and pull last baffle out of exhaust not the core but last of two baffles I installed when I built the core. It’s not real loud , want to keep it as quiet as I can. Do some speed runs for fun. I can always put them back in and probably will. I’ve never fired it up with core removed , neighbors not going to like that open 2” header ,   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D LOUD EVIL LAUGHTER !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by verslagen1 on 07/19/23 at 15:54:18

running out of gas at wot is a fuel flow problem.
I'd 1st check fuel flow
figure out the flow rate for 200 mph (you can dream can't ya?) at 50 mpg and pull off the line to the carb and fill up a pint.
If it can't do that then you know where the problem is.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Oldfeller--FSO on 07/20/23 at 04:46:43


Stock OEM vacuum petcocks used to do that a lot .......

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 07/20/23 at 13:06:27

Got a Raptor thingy on her. It flows good , still ain’t got it off yet to inspect it. I think it’s crap in the float bowl that gets sucked up against the main jet  sometimes. If I don’t find anything then I’ll dump the fuel and r & r the petcock for a peek in the tank. But I’m sure it’s in the carb , weekend is nearing. I’ll get to the bottom of this.  Gonna run a clear fuel filter , just in case , I’ll be able to see any collected gems in the filter. Big fun but I’d rather be riding it. It’s been hot here so it’s a early morning rides before
the valley begins to swelter , watched a flying bug land on the concrete it was so hot it died before could take off or crawl to the grass.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 07/20/23 at 18:13:27

This weekend it's forecast to be 104 in Reno.  I guess if I got up early enough I could get a ride in before it heats up, but I am not an early riser!  Ride safe when you figure it out, Rut.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 07/20/23 at 20:13:30

It will be up & running Saturday , flying low Sunday morning. Found an interesting five way intersection , needs further investigation x 5. Calling it 5 points n , s , e , w & one in between. So many roads.     8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 07/24/23 at 15:34:13

New VM38 on it , she pulls hard just a short ride for fuel. A different feel than the 36mm , can’t yet put my finger on it. I’m after dependability , turn key / push button , she’s got big nuts and plenty fast enough with a wide forgiving powerband. Needs some road time , jetting near perfect. She loves to run !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 07/25/23 at 03:28:38


0A2D2C2C3421580 wrote:
I’m after dependability , turn key / push button , she’s got big nuts and plenty fast enough with a wide forgiving powerband. Needs some road time , jetting near perfect. She loves to run !


My VM38 has been on the bike for the last 16,000 miles and has been absolutely reliable.  I do need to use the enrichment lever to get the bike fired up the first ride of the day - the engine starts at what seems to be the first compression stroke after hitting the starter button......it never needs to crank more than a turn or two before it fires up.  I can push the enrichment lever off and the bike will run fine.....but as with any air cooled bike with a carb the idle speed is just a bit low and uneven until the bike warms up.  When I start the bike I am fully dressed and ready to ride - so after a few second of running I click the bike into gear and ride gently for the first few miles as the engine warms up.

When I am done riding for the day and headed home - I shut the fuel petcock off as I pass the STOP sign down the street.  By the time I reach my driveway the engine is beginning to sputter as the float bowl is nearly empty of fuel.  I feel better knowing the bike is sitting in the garage with very little fuel (ethanol) in the float bowl trying to corrode or clog my things up.  If life gets in the way and I cannot ride it for a week or month.....there is no fuel in the carb rotting away.  I have not needed to clean the carb since putting it on.  Every year at the end of the season I will take the little jet access plug off the bottom of the carb and check for dirt/water....I can't remember ever getting much of anything out of there......my tank is lined with the epoxy and I don't run a fuel filter other than the one that is on the petcock inside the tank.

The VM38 may be old technology - but it works! :)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 07/25/23 at 10:04:25

Yeah that’s what I wanna hear. I didn’t get any seat time or very little , Friday morning , maybe get a couple hours of test n tune. Maybe some gps data. I knew I would start liking these Dunlop 404s , great tire , heavy but tough tire , goes just about anywhere, hella grip , they’re still ugly !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 07/25/23 at 10:14:14

I like old technology , been owning Mikuni carbs since I was a kid. Cost effective and easy to get parts.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 07/26/23 at 11:16:05

After I got it painted & epoxy sealed tank back I blew it out with air and then washed it out with the garden hose , drain let sit in sun to bake off any
moisture and air one more time. I can’t see anything getting thru the screens on the petcock , so that’s where the blockage was. But still got crap out when I drained it. Not sure what it was. Running a fuel filter for awhile till problem clears up , keep new carb healthy. The screens on petcock make  the filter useless but it will stay on for awhile for peace of mind. Have a deep well nut on order for float bowl to give it all the fuel it can suck up and it help keep fuel cool in the bowl. Ride it  Friday , get out of town , open her up a bit , let her roll. Do what she does best , make me grin.  8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/04/23 at 10:02:50

Finally got time for a quick ride. New carb rich on pilot & pretty close on the main. 38 has a different feel, than the 36. Don’t really care , I like it ! I have realized it’s not a in town bike , way better suited for backroads with lighter traffic. Local Leo follows me when ever he spots me just waiting for me to crack that throttle. I just head outta town , he fades away. May have terrorized downtown a bit too often. Stopped by H/D dealer , no Chinese Harley’s yet , they didn’t think it was funny when I asked if I could order one on Amazon ! Thought for a minute I had earned an escort out of the building , absolutely no sense of humor.       >:(          

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by verslagen1 on 08/04/23 at 12:06:14

I thought the new ones were made in India.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/04/23 at 22:49:28

Really , might explain their growing discontent with me. One employee did laugh , probably currently unemployed. Last I heard they were Chinese made , Honda clone. I’d buy one in the crate & hide it. Use it for a sacrificial marshmallow at the next Sturgis gathering !   Lmmfao.  ::)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/04/23 at 23:15:52

Then I wander out to the tracker and find 3 customers glaring at it , helmet key , light it off and go before they started asking dumb questions. I guess I should’ve rode the Sportster ? They don’t like Japanese bikes but its ok if its a Harley made in China ? India ? What ev ?
Not even “made in America with global parts”

Somebody stop me , I’m on a roll !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/06/23 at 12:30:19

Was talkin with a buddy , he said he wants my SR500. I’ll have to finish it , tires some hoses ,timing and jetting ,maybe some polishing too. In return I may getting his 1971 BSA 500 Gold Star (I wanna say last year built) and my 71 BSA Victor 250 back. I’m really after the 250 for a build for me , but  the 500 might get built , I’ve never even seen the 500 in person. It supposedly very complete , I know Several BSA people in UK so most parts should be easy but $$ to obtain. Oh possibility of 3 Bzers in my garage , very cool.  I may sell the the flat tracker & 500 but the 250 has to stay. That bike was bought from a friend who has passed since then and I need to build that bike , I need to ride it again. It will be a special build , something for a Sunday morning ride. Therapy,Therapy,Therapy,Thump,Thump,Thump it will repair me in a broken place.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/08/23 at 12:38:18

My buddy who wants  my SR500 hasn’t ridden in 5 yrs and the SR will be a perfect bike for returning to two wheels. I don’t know much about any health issues he might have , but if he is willing I’m just the guy to give him the nudge he needs to ride again. If he can start it without issues he’ll be riding a vintage thumper along side my tracker. He doesn’t live far from four corners & Alice’s restaurant. The tracker is nearing that ripe old age of 30 in a few years it will be vintage too. The BSA done or not comes off the table this winter , tracker gets forks rebuilt and new tires , then SR gets center stage , ‘it’s been completely rebuilt but it has sat for 24 yrs. Like I’ve said before I need another lift table , think I might when my BSA 250 arrives.
Somehow I feel it important that I get him riding again , want him to experience the rebirth of riding down the road , what he is missing ! It is what I consider to be deep therapy for the soul , I just want to see him get his share too ! We will ride again !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/09/23 at 10:41:50

So now that I’m retired I’m gonna need a smaller motorcycle that can go anywhere , a scrambler of sorts. Small in 300-375 lb range , get good fuel mileage , handle fairly well and of course have a happy button , lower seat height is preferable but not a deal breaker. Price is important but as long as I get what I want I might be willing to pay up a bit. At times I wish the tracker didn’t look so nice so I could take it trail trimming . Not really after a Dual purpose , wanting more scrambler. Always preferred Triumphs and BSAs handling , super stable on the road. Something I can hang some small saddlebags on for errands in the area , ride rather than drive saves fuel not driving my trucks. I got the tracker for raising hell , so it doesn’t have to be a powerhouse  , idk , something fun & different. Ok , I might buy a cookie cutter bike and try to blend in as opposed to raising hell downtown on a flashy little hood rod. A bike you would walk right by and not take a second look at it. My stomach just started flipping over & over , that’s not gonna happen , all my bikes are worth a second and third looks. Not my style , it may blend in but it will be worth a second peek. I’m a bit different ,  I’m not MM , I won’t give it away before hand , I’ll make sure it a surprise !
BSAs & Triumph & Honda are not here yet , so that narrows my choices , RE is a possibility. Oh the important part , it has to be tough ! Cause this bike will be trashed & abused , ridden over anything , rode hard and put away wet. It will get timely oil changes but after that , treat it like an old pinto station wagon used to haul hay ! It will be more of a tool than a toy.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 08/09/23 at 11:06:02

Hay Ruttly

I like the looks of that Triumph 400 scrambler , but ridding double (in comfort) is one of the requirements I need to meet.   I also like the price of the RE-Hunter and the thing about it not having a speed limiter .   I can have two bikes if nessary !  :)

My local Triumph dealer told me January when I asked about sitting on the Scrambler.    

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/09/23 at 21:21:17


67404141594C350 wrote:
Was talkin with a buddy , he said he wants my SR500. I’ll have to finish it , tires some hoses ,timing and jetting ,maybe some polishing too. In return I may be getting his 1971 BSA 500 Gold Star (I wanna say last year built) and my 71 BSA Victor 250 back. I’m really after the 250 for a build for me , but  the 500 might get built , I’ve never even seen the 500 in person. It supposedly very complete , I know Several BSA people in UK so most parts should be easy but $$ to obtain. Oh possibility of 3 Bzers in my garage , very cool.  I may sell the the flat tracker & 500 but the 250 has to stay. That bike was bought from a friend who has passed since then and I need to build that bike , I need to ride it again. It will be a special build , something for a Sunday morning ride. Therapy,Therapy,Therapy,Thump,Thump,Thump it will repair me in a broken place.


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/10/23 at 09:28:50

Any word on the RE 650 Meteor ? They just sell it everywhere but here !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 08/10/23 at 10:20:03

The ‘71 BSA Goldstar 500 has the same engine as the 500 dirt bike made during the late 60’s & 70’s.  The original Goldstars last year was ‘63.

About 6 months ago there was a ‘71 BSA Goldstar 500 up for sale on eBay, in the Dallas area, for $5000, less than 10k original miles and looked really good in the photos.  I was sorely tempted.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 08/10/23 at 20:02:08

Hay Lancer , how about that New Gold Star ?  :-?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/10/23 at 23:30:37

You should get it Lancer , my stable is full up. I just scored a 97 Savage minus the front end. Absolutely no history it’s been sitting for years. Not crashed , a friend bought it for the front end for his GT500. So yup I scavenged the rest of it for a future project. Pretty sure I got more projects then Sneeze now for sure. Savage just fell in my lap , but it’s all the way across town at least 8 minutes away. My BSA 250 is a 100 miles away and still have to go collect it.  I have a 1986 Honda Reflex TLR200 for sales too. Need to make room.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/11/23 at 00:48:29

That 97 has no bars , tank or seat(s) , carb may be missing too , not a good sign. Even if it’s trashed I’ll have all the electrical and a swingarm and engine cases , I have lower half of a frame and a spare to cut up. Also have a spare SR500 frame too , stuff from the warehouse. Top half of a SR frame and lower half of a Savage. Dr. Frankenstein will be proud the Yamazuki !
Yes I can totally ruin two motorcycles at once. Just stop me before I give birth to a Bsaha or a Bazuki ! Think I got this retirement stuff down ! Going to gut the garage to make more room. Didn’t really need it but I couldn’t say no. As much as the Savage is a turd , it polishes up well and they are fun to build and ride. No tellin what I might build.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 08/11/23 at 10:29:04

You are just going totally wild with your newly acquired “spare retirement time” of late, you may need some professional mental health One-on-One time to sort out these unfettered urges of yours.
This is not uncommon for folks who experience the uncontrolled rush of sudden freedom from retirement.
Of course, when one is also burdened with an uncontrolled fanaticism for BSA’s, that will complicate any effort to Control Thyself.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 08/11/23 at 10:32:39


56445644495A5558531B0 wrote:
Hay Lancer , how about that New Gold Star ?  :-?



I am intrigued with the new Goldie.  It has good power but is a bit on the heavy side.  I will need to see it and ride it before making a decision.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 08/11/23 at 10:36:15


183F3E3E26334A0 wrote:
You should get it Lancer.




It has not been relisted so I assume it was purchased by someone.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/11/23 at 20:53:50

Nonsense , I was lucky I had enough left , to walk out the gates. If I don’t dive in head first to my number one passion I may not survive. I have many that need finished and a few are total project , but that’s what I do. I need to stay busy. Garage hasn’t been really cleaned since before 2018 , so it needs a good goin thru and then maybe a second lift , sell a few ,  build a few. It a healthy normal thing for me , ok , I’m sick and I can’t stop , totally normal. That’s how that tracker came to be , absolutely  out of control. That’s how I roll !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 08/12/23 at 04:47:05

Do you have a cruise speed ?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/12/23 at 07:59:00

I hate rev limiters , ramming speed  :o

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/12/23 at 08:27:44

I still haven’t bought my retirement bike yet ! Or my retirement truck yet either. I will ease up a bit as I adjust to my new born freedom.
Savage engine is large , I think it’s too big for a BSA frame , the sure footed handling of a BSA and a happy button & Savage engine would make a fine motorcycle. Ah , I’ll just build that 250 it’s got enough thump to keep me smiling.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by verslagen1 on 08/12/23 at 09:41:45


58555A5751460603340 wrote:
Do you have a cruise speed ?

once every 60 years... I'm good until 120.   ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/12/23 at 10:36:53

Slowing things down is all my tools , I have my grandfathers , my fathers , my brothers , my tools from a lifetime of buying tools and being a mechanic.
Sort it all out give the rest to my son in-laws , then get my F100 running and sold. Then I can build some bikes , money from the F100 can buy another lift table and big enough for both sized piece carpeting. New stereo & tv for garage. I am and always will be “shop personnel “. Grease monkey, wrench,dumb mechanic and the one that makes me want to start swinging “Hey Gomer” ! I Just want to build & ride them , ride more ya ride more , new roads. Garage Dwelling Troll , just a friends opinion.   ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 08/12/23 at 13:05:45

Garage Dwelling Troll … yep, got the picture of that.  [ch129488]

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/12/23 at 22:17:33

Go get my half a Savage on Sunday , missing front end , tank , seats , carb.
Hmmm I got seats , i got carbs , I got exhaust , think I have a BSA tank in the warehouse. Amazon has tanks , just need a front end. Not this time , it’s gettin stripped , I’m keeping all the electrical and engine , I’ll have to see about the rest of it. If the engine is crap I’ll make a lamp out of it , have almost all the parts for a SR500 lamp too. Build a bobber , no no no a rat bike any part any color make it go. Or a $1000 rally bike I still got $1000 to make it go , registration would eat that up.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/12/23 at 23:35:22

Maybe a new engine for the tracker , I like the lamp idea better. On/Off can’t be real tuff.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 08/13/23 at 12:00:49

I saw a B50 engine listed on eBay in the last couple of days.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/15/23 at 14:36:55

That would be one pricey $$ lamp ! Never even considered it , a Suzuki,Yamaha,Honda  oh yeah ! A BSA Lamp , gotta draw the line there !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/17/23 at 09:14:38

Distractions while riding chip away at reaction times. While I do believe helmet to helmet communication is a good thing as long as as it doesn’t require your hands.
I was sitting in traffic a Dresser rolls by lane splitting stereo blasting , tapping on his cell phone and vaping too. When a car a few ahead of my truck , puts his turn signal on starts a textbook lane change when Mr Kool plows into his rear bumper and falls over , absolutely never saw what he hit and absolutely no braking. As we age reaction time slows , only distraction on my bars is the mirrors & speedo. This was a classic example of riding distracted , riding stupid. Don’t be this guy !
Ride aware, ride safe, stay focused, Enjoy the ride !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/17/23 at 09:50:35

Cafe racers are art , a personal expression. I watched a video about how this guy doesn’t like cafe racers. First off cafe racers are an emulation of a bygone era. It’s a small percentage of riders that have to be different , not want but have to be. They just see the bike in a different light , what it needs and what it doesn’t , it a sense a fashion statement. Where I grew up it was very common so I was exposed to classic survivors , cafe racers , of course street trackers , even choppers. A healthy respect to all builds , knowing that it was a normal condition to be a builder , not just a rider.
My tracker fits in the description , might appear to be a cafe even if it still has a helmet lock, horn,mirrors,speedo and full complement of legal (well) lighting. It’s not some Sunday only bike , the tracker is a daily rider , built tough to deal with the abuse I can dish out.
Cafe racers are maybe a different breed , as a builder I respect their vision
& execution.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 08/17/23 at 12:31:40


1C3B3A3A22374E0 wrote:
Distractions while riding chip away at reaction times. While I do believe helmet to helmet communication is a good thing as long as as it doesn’t require your hands.


I agree that you don't need any distractions while riding a motorcycle.  I don't listen to the radio and I make GPS changes while stopped.


The last few rides I was leading all 3 of us had Sena radios and we could communicate with each other.  It was nice as I was leading and I could warn the following riders about crap in the road, sharp curves, etc.  I am a more experienced rider than the two following me and I could prepare them for what was coming their way.  It actually can help make us all safer as there are several sets of eyes to spot deer or other potential hazards.....and can even help spot the ideal restaurant when the time comes.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/17/23 at 15:26:51

Did my 40+ mile ride this morning before it gets real hot , was 114 in the shade the other day. I’m not sure what symptoms that might have on a vm38 carb. When it’s that hot I usually won’t ride , 95 max. The new 38 gives great delivery , all throttle super fun to ride , jetting near perfect.
No changes for next 5 rides. Tighten the mirrors , lube the chain , find new filter & oil ,getting there. Been havin stare downs with that other savage engine ,it speaks to me. Build me ,build me, the voices in my head are very demanding. If I build it then I gotta buy another to put it in. Kinda want not a stocker but a cruiser in my own way. It’s in my head already. Take a number many bikes to finish first. Guess I need a board on the wall to show the backlog of bikes waiting for the table.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/18/23 at 00:25:43

I cleaned up about half of the garage, ok , maybe a third , ok, I swept up , a bit. There must be ten  5 gal buckets full of tools and more still to come home from work , already gave five buckets of tools away. Try to put the garbage out stuffed full. I’m gettin there , I’m actually enjoying throwing stuff out. I only kept the engine and all the electrics and the swingarm. Dumping the rest in the scrap steel bin (no papers). Have to make room for more bikes.    :o

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 08/18/23 at 04:07:11

So when is the Grand Opening for your new motorcycle shop ?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/18/23 at 09:05:21

Really funny you said that I have always dreamed about owning my own m/c shop/museum Thumpers R Us. I used to have connections and knew quite a few business owners but most are dead now the rest have moved on. California has been ground zero in the trade since the late 50s as far as dealers , shops , after market and major side effect is this state is it constantly turns out world class racers too. If I could make it profitable I would do it. Have a friend who also followed same dream but he no longer wants to. So it may be a solo gig , When the road turns into a Rut !   ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by verslagen1 on 08/18/23 at 09:54:11

are you going to name it Spring Fever?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/19/23 at 09:11:51

Shop , small but growing museum , maybe a cafe too. Nothing like a slice of apple pie and a steaming hot cup of joe. I know where my coin would go if I ever win lotto.
Yeah I like it “Spring Fever” all year long.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/19/23 at 09:47:29

I guess that means this topic will continue in bad weather too !

I know I make fun of those who have to winterize their bikes for the cold weather and that I ride all year long. The untold truth is that it gets so hot here riding is unbearable at times. I like early rides mostly before noon at the latest , going nowhere in particular , just riding looking for new roads and generally just haulin as$ & raising hell on some otherwise quiet farmland , orchard , ranch roads. Mow the yard today ride Sunday , head east from five points. Ride just to ride , no reason , no destination , just get my butt in the seat and go get some free therapy.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 08/19/23 at 09:49:06

Riding here in northern KY is limited - the reliable riding weather lasts only about 7 months.  The 5 winter months last from November to March......in April the weather is unpredictable and you can sneak in a ride here and there - but May is the month when active riding can resume. You may be able to do some riding in November and even December with the appropriate cold weather gear......but they are often short rides just to scratch the itch.

This winter was an exception as the snow was light and the amount of salt used on the roads was minimal...and there were rains that washed the salt off the roads frequently.  I was able to sneak in some winter rides.

The Savage gets the oil and filter changed, and drained of fuel and the LiIon battery needs nothing.  The fuel injected bikes get oil changes and ethanol free fuel with StaBil - I connect a battery tender once a month.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/19/23 at 10:24:42

What would be cool is for it to be a destination , a fun place to stop at. I always wanted to get a bike night here in town , maybe with a local restaurant and local shops/clubs. A all welcome bike night maybe once a month. But due to devolution of man and general disrespect to others and/or their property this idea has been $hit canned. Maybe someone else can bring it to be and make it work. It won’t be me.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by verslagen1 on 08/19/23 at 11:24:12

I have to summerize my bikes.  I rarely go out least my tan turn to ash.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/19/23 at 13:23:07

Yeah, imagine a seventies model car with that Luxurious black Naugahide on the seats.
SunnuvaBICHHH.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/19/23 at 18:32:24

Backyard done , clean pool done , bbq a tritip for tomorrow , sausages for tonight and some spam for breakfast. Still cleaning garage. I wish I didn’t have to but it gets better with everything I throw out or find it a new home for. Gives me great pleasure to throw out stuff. I got a savage engine on the floor , a SR500 lower end all wrapped up , and a Chinese 250cc single electric start engine new wrapped up somewhere , too heavy for the warehouse upstairs , lift table , 5 motorcycles making any kind of room really helps and I’m beginning to see the difference ! Still find a minute to sit and enjoy the yard at sunset as twilight sets in , with a cold one. Some tropical storm heading near here , gonna mess up my yard & pool !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 08/20/23 at 07:34:32

The weather reports call this storm a hurricane on my TV.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by verslagen1 on 08/20/23 at 08:33:40

raining hard here, we still have the mud barricades from the last fire so I don't expect anything will happen as we are prepared for it.  just need to watch the pool level and keep the dogs dry.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/20/23 at 10:19:28

So what ever storm was near totally missed us. Was a nice cool evening with some weird clouds and a nice breeze. Was relaxing in the backyard from sunset  till dark and even went swimming for a bit. I’m pretty sure Sneeze might have been affected , another 100 miles or so east of here.
TV says maybe tonight some lightning maybe showers. Maybe it ain’t got here yet. Think I’m gonna sneak out and sneak in a ride , it’s
Thumper Time !      :D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/20/23 at 10:34:44

Before the last ride I added a deep well nut to the float bowl on the vm38.
I may be crazy but it seems to keep acceleration more stable , more linear. Extra deep well nut keeps main jet away from bottom of well, deeper. Like it no longer has a problem or got better at suppling fuel at a sustainable rate to keep up in wot conditions. Just realized with gps I can better calculate my fuel mileage, last time I checked  , it drinks it and farts out torque ! :-?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by verslagen1 on 08/20/23 at 15:02:34

so there was a 5.5 earthquake in ojai
I missed it... musta been when I was pushing the start button, completely missed it.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 08/20/23 at 15:50:57

Well, the start button on a Savage machine does look result in a lot of torque being released after all.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 08/20/23 at 17:56:30

I hauled my flatbed trailer from Riverside, CA to my home near Cason City, NV today.  It rained hard all the way up hwy 395 until I got to Bodie.  That is one, big, rain storm!  It is diminishing the farther north it gets, so we will get about a 1/2" over night.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/20/23 at 18:19:39

I’m right on the edge of it blue skies west , east is dark. Not a drop here a nice cool day or the calm before the storm.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 08/21/23 at 05:04:54

Glad you in CA are doing OK.

In KY we are having a week long AC test cycle.

It was 92, yesterday, forecast 93 today, 90 on Tues, 92 on Wed, 98 on Thur, 95 on Fri.  Saturday will drop to a more normal 85 and then 79 on Sunday.

No rain in the 10 day forecast.

I am getting outdoor work done in the AM before it gets too hot, then retreat into the AC in the afternoon.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/21/23 at 09:01:26

I was out & about Sunday morning , gas up , head east from 5 points. That road is all farmland , long straight , smooth. This bike wants another jet , it keeps on surprising me , this thing likes to run. Pilot is good,needle is good, I’m at a 200 main , next size 210. Increments under 200 are in 5 and over in 10 , so 210 instead of a 205.  A 210 might be too big , I might go get a numbered drill set and drill me a 205 from a 200 jet , ol skool. One thing I’ve learned always use the next size jet , don’t skip a size , going up or down. I tune by butt , when you get close it gets tough , but when you’ve gone to far it will tell you , wot/ peak drops off or does weird stuff on peak roll off. I almost never pull the spark plug till I’m happy with jetting and at that point it’s just a reward for the work put in. I know I’m close , if it takes a 210 with positive results it will surprise me again ! A few more rides before next jet , real close. Excursions get longer , conditioning/ testing the hip. Was 40 miles last was 77 miles on long straight roads(farmlands) you cover some ground quickly. Mostly testing its reliability & durability too.
A better seat might help , my hip is good , but in need of more seat time , help condition it to ride farther than the ride before. After ride pain is going away sooner & sooner. It’s a blast to ride , today trying to ride east till it starts raining see what Hurricane Hilary is all about. The bike is ridden every chance I get so it’s a mess and smattered with bugs , a little rain won’t hurt. It needs a wash n wax bad. Rain might soften the bugs up a bit. Cloudy & windy time to ride into a dying hurricane ! BIG FUN.      ::)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/21/23 at 09:11:17

Yeah , I guess So. California has taken a hit , flooding , mud slides , etc

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/21/23 at 09:12:11

Let’s hope Versey got his water wings on !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by verslagen1 on 08/21/23 at 10:13:38

I only start worrying after the 39th day of rain.

I live in an elevated area, so flooding is not an issue

I live between canyons, so flash flooding isn't an issue.

the streets do get a wash of mud but it's dealt with so no worries.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by zipidachimp on 08/21/23 at 14:01:35

koff, koff, pardon, so much smoke! Rutt: my 'lotto' dream shop would be named "Nickel Rockets", nothing over 650cc, my shop, my rules!
Cheers!  8-)
https://www.mycampbellrivernow.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Wildfire-BC-Wildfire-Service-June-26-3-696x390.jpg

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/21/23 at 22:06:56

I like that ! Well my garage is my current shop and I’m going to make it into  a better place to work. I have a better tv and a better radio and got good lighting. A five year accumulation of stuff needs to go , space is the biggest issue. Got tons of tools & welders,grinders. Should sell all my oxy acetylene stuff a buy a plasma cutter. After that maybe a second lift and a sign
  “Spring Fever”
I never did get to head east in search of a hurricane today. Maybe do some exploring tomorrow , if I don’t get side tracked.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/23/23 at 10:02:50

I can’t believe the difference in the garage , nowhere near done yet. Had to stop yesterday cause garbage can is stuffed full. Snuck a load of scrap metal in to work Sunday night and pick up a steel cabinet and a small top box , was in and back out in 15 minutes. Working on the next load. Installing  some weather stripping to side door and all the way around the overhead door too ! More for dust control , helps keep weather out too. Estimated I can squeeze another bike in but , I’m in a self imposed number of six bikes 5 is better , so sell one , buy one. Basket cases don’t count , until they become rollers. All mine are rollers , 3 run , 2 in progress , 0 basket cases gonna have to get a basket case. Yeah my 1971 BSA Victor 250 , this will get all my skills , big plans ! Meanwhile keep cleaning !
My wife has noticed what I have accomplished too , right before I got an earful for stuffing the garbage can full , ya just can’t win !   ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/26/23 at 22:22:52

Yeah I’m still ill , that spare savage engine stares at me with a black eye. One of these days I’ll fix that ugly excuse of an exhaust port ! Do it just like the last one. Maybe take pics , yeah sure. At least a before and after shots. It won’t be for a while , I beat a pvc cap in the black eye , now it’s really staring at me. Put it on a piano dolly  And go hide it. Another day.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 08/27/23 at 03:45:17

Ive got two of them sitting in old military trunks, waiting for the handsome prince to come and kiss them, awakening them instantly to perfect function.
Where’s the prince though ?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 08/27/23 at 04:18:32

Same for me, it is an addiction.  I have 2 spare engines waiting for a chance to live again, and 1 engine finished and ready to be installed.

The "first" spare engine came from a 2006 bike that was crashed and it only has 1,700 miles on it.  I bought it off eBay when Pinwall Cycle had it listed as a "Buy it Now" on eBay at a very affordable price that included shipping.  I bought it when the modified engine in my Cafe' Savage had not yet proven itself reliable and I wanted a good spare just in case.  *(17,000 miles later and the modified Cafe' engine is still running great).

The second engine came with a 2002 theft recovery bike I bought to convert into my Retro Standard bike to ride when I become a Geezer and can't ride the Cafe' anymore.  Along with the original 2002 engine - I got a 1997 engine that is a good core.  The rockers and cam were worn - the rest o the engine looks pretty good.

The 2002 engine for the Retro Standard is sitting on the workbench with new 97mm Wiseco, ported head with Cerakote on the valves and exhaust port, performance cam and DR650 clutch......it is ready to go into the frame - but the frame is not ready for the engine yet.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/27/23 at 07:59:19

Wow , That makes me feel better. Not one but two of ya are as sick or sicker than I am. It will get its chance. The fricken thing is heavy , it wouldn’t come out of the frame , threw card board down laid it on its side and lifted the frame off. Ridiculously heavy engine , what a turd.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 08/27/23 at 09:16:03

Back in 2014 I thought it was a good idea to buy an unused Savage and then got the brilliant idea to get a Ryca kit to go with it. And yes that fateful day I joined S.S. , with absolutely no online etiquette whatsoever. Kinda just didn’t know any better. No apologies I learn as I go. Seen hundreds come and go here in that time. Sure beats the crap out of other forums and FB high school crap. Sometimes ya just want to talk bikes , sometimes just talk. So almost 9 years on the tracker , oh it’s done , and still evolving. Tracker 3.0 is on the board. Now that Ryca is gone , Ryca bikes will become a rarity (rare does not mean valuable). Mine was tracker kit #17. Best I can tell most were built and sold , probably a bunch never got finished and then there are what seems to be a life sentence on ownership , like myself and others (you know who you are). If I find a Ryca cheap unfinished , I would do it all over again. Sunday morning,I’m gone, it’s cool outside, time to let her rip ! About to wake up all the late sleepers. It is unusually quiet here !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 08/27/23 at 12:32:44


ZOOM ZOOM [ch127949][ch65039]

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/01/23 at 08:41:33

Garage is getting there , trying to finish a ton of smaller projects around the house and the garage too ! Maybe resume on the BSA here very soon. I almost feel guilty about calling my tracker a daily rider , I haven’t been out for awhile. When I say it’s my daily rider , generally that means that it’s the first bike I swing a leg over. The satisfaction level is twice as high as the Sportster. I would rather ride the tracker , the happy button is the best feature and just the fact that it is big bore single too ! When ya roll the hole package together , a thumper , a button , a tracker. It’s a no brainer on what my daily rider is. Seat is the only thing keeping me from doing some longer rides but that doesn’t bother me much 1-2 hours and my butt  is looking for a new home ! It’s all about SPM , SPM factor is off the charts on every ride with this bike ! Cool morning see if I can sneak out for a bit 8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/02/23 at 16:05:09

Out n about Friday , short ride , traffic everywhere , even the backroads all slowed up by motor homes , boats , jet skis , you name it they’re towing it out to the foothills for the holiday. All roads go thru here to get there , fun but short ride. Got to run to the hardware store real quick suit up , roll it out front , helmet n gloves , roll it out to curb , fuel n choke , button super slow cranking then clicks clicks , then nada zip nfh ! This will be the third lithium battery. Time for some system checks. That last battery was real small only 210ca the next one up just might fit it 270ca. I’m charging it , if it starts I’ll have meter hook up n ready. Maybe it’s not charging , battery appears to be taking a charge , bummed I just wanna RIDE ! This stuff keeps you sharp.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/02/23 at 17:43:59

I was reading that the bike needs to charge in a range and not to be exceeded , I’ll have to go back and write all that down. It was just over 10 volts before I put the lithium charger on the battery. It a small lithium charger probably gonna take all night. I made a jig to go to the charger pigtail to my meter , I can’t even see my battery. But I’ll be able to read charge voltage at idle and high rpm. Lookin like rain maybe ,so it’s time to light the bbq , crack an ice cold PBR & q some juicy burgers , still rather ride.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/03/23 at 10:38:55

I found the specs for 12 volt Shorai lithium battery
For optimum charging is between 13.6 to 14.4
Not to exceed 15.2 or risk damaging battery
And I’m guessing here but the if it drops below 9 volts it shuts down and may no longer take a charge.
Mine was above 10v and it seems to have taken the charge , left it on maintenance after the recharge I’ll try it later and take static , idle , hi rpm voltage readings
Bad battery , not charging  anybody’s guess

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/03/23 at 16:55:20

13.35 when I removed charger , starts like a champion , 13.15 idle same at hi rpm , minor fluctuations. It’s not charging and it runs so sweet , maybe at max on main jet , a tad fat. Always something let’s hope it’s something stupid. I gotta go review electrical diagrams. Guess I’ve been running a total loss ignition for how long ? I think rectifiers are just blocking diodes should be easy to test and good spot to check output from windings , sucks all those connectors are under seat. I don’t want it on the lift , unless I got to open engine. I got this !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/04/23 at 22:53:03

Lookin back over the years 3 lithium batteries later , maybe this bike has never charged and that’s why I’m literally killing them. Rectifier is easy to test , my spare tests good , but I could be wrong. Get the seat off and give it a look. Who knows ,I’ve revised the harness 3 times , the wire that goes somewhere/nowhere. Find my back probes & meter and find out why.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 09/05/23 at 03:49:34

Something on your bike is wrong if you need a battery replacement so often.

The EarthX in my Cafe' Savage has been there since 2012, and is still working fine.  It has never been on a charger or battery tender.  I have deleted the decompression solenoid and decompression relay and installed a manual release (no room under my fuel tank for the solenoid) - so when the key is turned off there is no power draw on the battery.  When winter comes the LiIon battery just waits patiently for 5 months for spring to come!



Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/05/23 at 07:54:34

Usually if rectifier is bad , battery would begin discharging as soon as key is turned off. If there was a short , the fuse would blow or be creating heat or blue smoke. I’m convinced it’s a broken wire or loose connection or a wire going no where. Got a couple things to do before I get there.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/07/23 at 08:54:32

Well no broken wires or loose connections. Grounds all secure. Its a pia to put the bike a lift , get it running and warm enough to idle and the check the 3 legs on the winding , it already passed ohm test. So I’m got a small voltmeter from Amazon with about a 3’ of leads and put a plug on it that matches the  maintenance charger. So plug it in  , stick it somewhere that’s easy to see , tuck the wire in. However it’s temporary for trouble shooting tool and I’ll have to unplug it when not in use. It’s about 2”x1”x1/2” small but has big numbers. Real time stuff find out if it charges and when it charges. Rectifier side ohm tests , regulator side might be bad. Voltmeter will tell the story. Holding off buying a new bigger battery till results are in.
And I have to ride it to get those results  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by verslagen1 on 09/07/23 at 09:17:37

Here's my tale of the charging problems.
Battery wasn't charging, but could be charged overnight.
Tried swapping rectifier with someone else (group ride) no change and they didn't have an issue.
The connectors looked crappy, cleaned and lubricated, no change.
Later swapped the rotor and problem resolved.
I must've hit it trying to take it off and demagnetized it.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/07/23 at 18:17:55

Versey , Tell me more about demagnetization , you hit it ? I have lil to nil readings on the 3 ac legs and that’s why everything else looks/ is good. You picked it. Last time cover was off I was unable to loosen rotor bolt so I put it back together. I am not even screwing with it , it runs too good to break that bolt off , no way ! I’ll put a bigger battery in it , make my volt meter a  permanent fixture, stick it on master cylinder with the gps antenna. Gets low , give it an overnight pick me up. Summers almost done , I’m not ! Im riding this bike. I can tote the smaller battery as  a jumper starter. Once the engine is running it don’t take much voltage to keep it running & lights. The starter is what takes a chunk every time you hit the button. Guess I’m gonna build that spare engine , destiny!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/07/23 at 18:22:33

But I’m goin out in the morning and ride the crap out of it !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by verslagen1 on 09/07/23 at 19:19:19


456263637B6E170 wrote:
Versey , Tell me more about demagnetization , you hit it ? I have lil to nil readings on the 3 ac legs and that’s why everything else looks/ is good. You picked it. Last time cover was off I was unable to loosen rotor bolt so I put it back together.

yes, the rotor was stuck (got the bolt off) so I smacked it with a rubber mallet all the way around.
I had hoped the rubber mallet wouldn't count as an impact but I guess it does.

on your 3 legs... you measured ohms?
also check any leg to ground... should be open

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/07/23 at 19:49:42

Yes checked ohms and not shorted to ground , was checking ac voltage at 5000 rpm , all 3 legs should be at least 100v each in AC after rectifier it becomes DC  , but it does have a fair amount of diddley squat , helps fill in the low spots , it senses when trouble is near !    ::)


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/07/23 at 19:59:14

If charge rate was air , it would be in a vacuum , poo poo
Put the seat on  and ride it !
Thank you , your comment made me go back and check it running.  I didn’t know that was a thing , I’m a believer now. I ain’t fixing it till events warrant removing that bolt & rotor. Ride  8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/09/23 at 23:36:41

Took some time but I finally found a battery that fits , a Deltran battery tender lithium with 300 cca , I’ll use the old battery for a jumper if I need to travel for a good distance. The new one is twice the size and a 100 cca more. That will get me thru the season. Gonna down it over the holidays for forks and tires , oil n filter. I have learned to trust these Dunlop 404s. When I find myself coming in hot and over shoot the corner is where these tires surprise me , slides thru gravel patches at speed. The Continentals better be good cause the 404s are fun tires , but ugly. The other day I drifted up to the edge , rode the shoulder for about 60-70 feet thru the turn and it felt good !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/11/23 at 23:15:39

This is a first for me , I bought a Lucas style tail light from the UK. It is to be hung on the wall as a jewel to look at , as it is the first part for my next project. A project I don’t even own yet , haven’t seen it in 35 years , a true basket case. I already know what it looks like or should I say the vision is in my head. Vintage , yes , original , kinda , English , for sure. I’ll be rat holing tid bits and stuff till it arrives. I may have to to sell 2 bikes to fund this project , do what ever I have to ! I’d like to have her home by the holidays. All nice and warm on my work bench !    8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by ohiomoto on 09/12/23 at 18:54:07

This one hell of a fever Ruttly.  

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/12/23 at 21:48:39

Yeah I’m one sick individual , no cure
Tough luck

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 09/12/23 at 22:30:57

Before every project I always have a plan.  I call it my "bision".  You gotsta have a bision.  The view of what it will look like when you have it the way you want it.  Build on, Rutt.  Build on...

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/13/23 at 00:21:35

Still not finished with retirement paperwork crap , still cleaning the garage , Still have to sell a truck or two and one bike for now. Still have to finish the BSA TT bike , it’s going to be a busy winter. Time for a flu shot , they never work I always get the fever come spring !
And squeeze in a wash,wax,detail,fork overhaul,2 tires for the tracker (she is a mess) , she can not be down for long , she is way too much fun !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 09/13/23 at 06:41:29


507776766E7B020 wrote:
This is a first for me , I bought a Lucas style tail light from the UK. It is to be hung on the wall as a jewel to look at , as it is the first part for my next project. A project I don’t even own yet , haven’t seen it in 35 years , a true basket case. I already know what it looks like or should I say the vision is in my head. Vintage , yes , original , kinda , English , for sure. I’ll be rat holing tid bits and stuff till it arrives. I may have to to sell 2 bikes to fund this project , do what ever I have to ! I’d like to have her home by the holidays. All nice and warm on my work bench !    8-)



So what specific BSA are you looking for on this special project ?


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/13/23 at 09:29:19

A 1971 BSA B25T Victor 250
It was the model with smaller front brake and high mounted front fender with 20” front wheel I bought it in 1979 from a friend,rode it for a few years sold it to another friend. The guy I bought it from passed some years back and I feel I have to build it , ride it on Sundays. A little thumper for Sunday morning rides. Same basic chassis as the 500cc so just the smaller engine is the biggest difference. Its been sitting in my buddies garage since about 1982. I had completely rebuilt the engine before I sold it , so hopefully I’ll just need to replace gaskets & seals then buff her up. I seen the engine one day about 15 years ago. But I have to build the chassis. He says he has bought a lot of items for it. I’m sure a fair monetary agreement will need to be reached so I can have full access to his garage. He got everything BSA I had at that time but my TT bike , no fool I kept all my carbs and all the ignition parts. I can’t begin to describe how strong I feel about building this bike. I’m thinking it won’t ever be a collectors bike so it has to be special , maybe a very stock original chassis with the as is original body panels & seat. It’s in my head , low little classy thumper with wide as$ bars and a comfy seat.
A BCP for sure. Can’t wait , always excited about stuff like this.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 09/13/23 at 11:42:32

Ah yes, I’ve seen some on eBay recently and 1 or 2 are there currently, at least in the last day or so.  There’s a ‘76 BSA Goldstar 500 B40 street version up for auction now, with the same engine as your 500.  This is the 2nd model of this type I’ve seen in the past year on eBay.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/13/23 at 13:12:55

Hey Sneeze, I was looking at a Bision , I see it. But mine will more closely resemble a Texas Longhorn. Bision in my eyes resembles more of a cafe model where as mine would be more of a standard with very wide bars.  8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/13/23 at 13:20:49

There is a reason why people don’t ride or race Bision !
I do like the clip-ons

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/14/23 at 22:41:03

I been pushing the same lawn mower for 20 yrs a Craftsman/Honda can’t even get parts anymore , got my moneys worth out of it. The wife buys me rechargeable that is a powerful and quiet , self propelled , it’s nice. Nothing more than a vacuum cleaner with a blade. No oil,fuel,spark plug,filters and no exhaust fumes to breathe. Makes me feel inadequate it somehow seems to rob me of that manly task of mowing the yard , a fricken barnyard Prius.
Amazon , found me some Hoover vacuum stickers (3) front and both sides.  
Upside , I get to fire the gardener ! ;D ;D ;D Yup loud evil laughter

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/14/23 at 23:02:29

New battery be here Saturday and making my voltmeter with a momentary button to be not permanent but neatly installed and it will plug in to the same plug as the charger. Momentary switch to check voltage quickly and then off no distractions. Solder the switch in with shrink tube. Wrap it with that fuzzy electrical tape. A few zip ties to install. Another step in starting ritual. I thinkin Sunday in the AM , let her rip !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/15/23 at 21:46:10

New battery and the turn signal bulbs have arrived. Time to lay my hands on some tools. Like when I was a kid , work on your bike , it better be ready to ride Friday after school and all weekend. No wonder why I am the way I am. Gotta go , she is calling me

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/18/23 at 07:52:51

Gettin the bigger battery in was a job ! It’s almost same size as oem battery. So had to reroute cables & wiring and put it in was a shoehorn and giant wooden mallet(just kidding , kinda). It’s in , when you shake the battery the whole bike moves , they are one. A quick push of the button and  digital volt meter on the master cyl lights up & reads. Ordered a used rotor for charging issue but volt meter tells me what’s left in the tank. Setup a leftover test battery into a jumpstart unit, , small & light , fits in backpack if doing an all day ride. The new Del trans battery has reset button at the plug on charge cable from battery now I can charge and reset it from plug , very convenient !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 09/19/23 at 04:15:33

A friend of mine bought an early BMW R100GS...the Paris Dakar model and it was several states away.  He flew down to get it and ride it home.

On the way back the charging circuit stopped working.  To get home he stopped and bought a car battery and mounted it on the luggage rack, disconnected the headlight......and the battery lasted the 2 day ride home!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/20/23 at 08:42:27

Considered adding a head light switch but leave tail/stop/turn alone. Rotor should be here tomorrow , add it to winter maintenance list.
Blah blah blah and blah blah blah
Voltmeter is cool

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/20/23 at 09:17:35

Flatlands are beginning to bore me so I’m mapping out a huge loop. From the house west taking backroads takes longer but I love the backroads and hate super slabs. That’s going over a pass just the other side head south what looks to run the ridges for many miles till some bar n grill. Road now goes east or west , head east till it drop down to the valley head north back home. Fuel maybe a concern using this road , if I fuel up then head south it shouldn’t be an issue. A true adventure , maybe 1/4 of the total distance are roads I know , the rest is new to me. Kinda like foothills elevation 2000-3500 ft. Should get a lot of elevation changes wanna see how she pulls a grade. Some canyon carving  won’t be an issue with the Dunlop 404s. Map out the gas stations too ! 3-4 hrs seat time , ooh curves. Seen a guy in town on a RE 350 , I’ll have to catch him and introduce myself. I wanna ride it !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/21/23 at 10:56:15

I had considered buying an unfinished Ryca tracker but I passed on the limited info in the marketplace. Looks like I was selling my bike , not a freakin chance. Seven hits “you know who you are” and thanks for looking and sorry for the deception. My stable is full “No Vacancy “ and two more on the way. Not sure I could build another one with the same enthusiasm. And no matter how close to completion , I would have to start from scratch. 2 BSAs and a SR500 on the board and thinkin the 883 might get 1200 & 6 speed kits and XR750 bodywork but that’s a tad on $$$ side , I’ll just use my lotto money when I win  ;D ;D ;D ;D.
Next year should yield 2 completions , need another lift.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/21/23 at 11:42:14

Last few rides , with new bigger battery , starts & runs great. My $10 voltmeter is cool too. And it does actually handle lighting duties and charge back .2 to .3 volts by the end of the ride. Try to check fuel mileage , uh o ,
It’s a get there fast bike not a get there cheaply bike ! Planning a 100+ mile ride to see if it will shake itself apart , ridin a lot of thumpers and these are pretty smooth for a big bore. My hip won’t be happy for a day or so but it’s in training for 100 - 200 mile rides. It will go thru farmland , foothills ,canyons and back to farmland , all backroads. Must be an eastern thing to name your roads , make it more of a tourist attraction. I’ll call it Loop C , A & B are in the same area but way shorter. I need more corners , Loop C  half the ride is mountain roads. Get out and find some Adventure. Maybe find Loop D !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 09/21/23 at 17:15:52


547372726A7F060 wrote:
Must be an eastern thing to name your roads , make it more of a tourist attraction.


I believe you are correct - The tourism boards and mapmakers promote the area for riding, then create maps with named loops for you to ride that go right past all the folks that buy advertising.

The loops do however provide a nice way to ride and get back home without having to go back on the same road...but they are fun in either direction and you can loop either direction.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/21/23 at 18:02:50

As much as I would like to blurt out all the names & numbers but I don’t. I felt like I broke an unwritten law when I mentioned an intersection and a restaurant. California has so many backroads you don’t need an interstate.
Not as fast but you get to see so much more. Think Loop C will be fun , both A & B are inside of C it’s a good sized loop. I guess some of our roads are in that book too , some are to avoid , while some are the place for you & your bike to be seen at. Like a haphazard concourse of motorcycles on the side of the road. I try to ride everywhere except to get groceries.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 09/22/23 at 03:30:09

Youzguyz has hundreds of Texas rides stored in his head.....when we stop for food the folks most often know him.

I don't know if the area is mapped with named roads and loops, as you don't need those when you have a personal guide!

;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/22/23 at 10:58:26

Just 1 pass thru A or B gets me tired , C about 5 times longer maybe 6 times. I enjoy riding but the valley floor is a bore and these are the closest mountain roads to home till I go east to the Sierras & foothills. If I’m gonna ride the Sierras I might as well ride up to Sneezes place and say Hi. Now that would be an epic ride for me into Nevada , I love the mountains. As you may have guessed being retired I am returning  to riding I won’t say daily but as often as the motorcycle applies. Been wearing the same tattered back pack since yeah high school , just bought a real nice backpack for storage while riding. I’m afraid saddlebags would ruin the trackers looks.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 09/22/23 at 15:14:26

I have a friend coming up next weekend from So Ca towing his bike with him.  We are going on several Sierra Nevada runs on Saturday and Sunday.  Just throwing it out there, Rut!  We have in helmet comms, too.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/22/23 at 19:20:45

Hey Sneeze , Not Quite ready for all that yet but , just the invite was huge , Tanx. Ride Safe.   8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 09/22/23 at 21:48:43

I had an hour to burn before an appointment today so I gave the old girl a nice bath. First bath this year she was a mess of dirt & bugs. She’s clean & shiny. Missed some of the rear wheel , no bigge. It looks tight , doesn’t really look like a daily rider when it’s clean. Way more fun riding it compared to washing it. She still retains much of her original Evil persona.
There is a local LEO that is just itchin to pull me over. He stares me down and just can’t seem to be in position to light me up. Sooner or later he’ll get me , the bike looks/is  ready to bolt ! But I’ll let him pull me over and I’ll  not stop coughing the whole time , works every time.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 10/10/23 at 21:19:53

Got some seat time today. I’ll do almost anything to stay off the freeway , so backroads it is. Bout 3/4 tank , head west today to local dealership to order gaskets and filter for winter maintenance. I was having hella fun just riding farm roads , totally went completely by the next town and headed out towards the delta before I got turned around. One road had some turns and always a giant piece of farm equipment coming at me. I could see the highway at a crawl while I was doing 75 , good to know the backroads. I go from town to town and rarely am I forced to take the freeway , always backroads. I find new roads every ride , me and the tracker just go exploring. My voltmeter is a handy addition , it charges back a bit just not to spec. Todays ride about 70 minutes seat time. Next ride , till it hits reserve and see if performance drops off while on reserve. But I think it’s ok now. Sure is fun riding knowing you get there when you get there , no rush , have fun , be safe , stop at interesting places. Just ride…

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 10/14/23 at 18:16:40

So I thought I spent too much coin on the tracker , just north of 10k , over 10 years and a good portion was supplies for R & D , and stuff that wasn’t used or just didn’t work out. Well ten years later , the BSA 250 has come home to stay or will soon. As the box of parts is getting heavier and heavier I can see this one is gonna rock the bank account. Cool things are they make a cdi type ignition for it $$$ and I can buy new rotors and stator and all the harnesses new from Lucas. It will be close to a new bike , it’s gonna be special. Not a survivor, not a restoration, not a custom , just gonna build it to ride with a big stock seat & some passenger pegs too. Not quite in my usual street tracker format. It will be built tough like the tracker ready for anything. Often figure that the tracker would be my best build , we will see about that , time will tell.
This BSA will never be sold only ridden. It’s rare to get a piece of your childhood back and for it to be a BSA , I’m one lucky guy !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 10/15/23 at 22:03:59

The 250 is proving to be exciting and challenging. Most everything can be had for a price , none of it cheap that’s for sure. But , there’s always that one elusive part that seems like I’ll never find it. More stock than not , it’s a 1971 and turn signals became mandatory in 1973 , so she’s gonna be a lean stocker , shooting for 300 lb. As light as possible , maybe even a passenger pegs. A backroad full fendered mini thumper , a classic in my eye. I appreciate when someone buys something , it goes directly towards the project. I could definitely buy one cheaper but it wouldn’t be any fun. Hunting parts and negotiating prices all part of the game.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 10/21/23 at 09:56:36

As usual I have gone off the deep end , Fever raging over BSA 250. Like I had mentioned early , I can find every part new or if not used , but one part. Driving me nuts , obviously it can’t be had new or I would. Used market is much tougher , crazy prices and I love to negotiate , I put out a fair price when it’s crazy high and almost always get it. But this one part has me checking sources 2 to 3 times a day. I won’t say what it is till after it in my grubby hands. It will eventually pop up at 3x a fair price I won’t hesitate  I have to have one. My buddy might have one but got to keep a poker face on this one ,he’s been in the hospital for over 2 months so my hands are tied until he feel well enough. If I wind up with a spare it will sell quick at 4 to 5 times , or a negotiated price to some other sick individual with the fever raging , that’s how it works ! ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 10/21/23 at 15:17:53

Sometimes a shorter ride can yield more smiles per miles than a longer ride. I had to run an errand a return to Amazon at the local Kolhs return point. Now we’re on Ruttly time , get barely out of town , can’t go left , go right open her up 1st , 2nd , 3rd  and a R/R crossing , wot in 3rd , attack position on the pegs butt over tail section. Just a perfect launch slight tug on the bars before set down. Carried right into the most perfect wheelie I’ve ridden in years maybe around a 100 ft let front end down hit 4th and be gone. I really need to Dyno this bike , she shocks me at times. It’s easy to make a big ruckus this bike and I’m real good at finding trouble. Big Fun !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 10/21/23 at 17:42:06

Going to get yourself in some trouble ?
Hmmm ?
Bad boy bad boy.
What’ cha gonna do ?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 10/21/23 at 19:56:33

At least I was out of town. I’m still grinning , R/R crossings are a weakness of mine. Generally over 100 trains pass thru here a day. Sometimes takes 20 minute to get thru town. Maybe that’s why I blast one when I get the chance. I hate when you’ve been waiting ten minutes and the train is
barely moving , then , it stops and back ups , it’s a long one. Still grinning  !
I don’t even do wheelies anymore , right !   ::)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 11/05/23 at 08:24:18

It’s nearing that day to go get my 250. My buddy out of hospital after some months and recouping at home. Tells me a non running car blocking access to garage where she is sitting. He in no shape for garage diggin. I have offered my help with anything till he is better. Over a hundred miles from here , 1 1/2- 2 hrs. Trying to not be pushy , but he knows I’m chomping at the bit. He’s has seen the fever take me many times before. I get excited and the project becomes a monster , like a conductor of a symphony directing all that is heard, fully immersed ! No way out but forward , to the finish. I guess it consumes my mind , some say I’m less social during a build. When I say it’s a sickness I’m not joking. Fever is raging , gonna get worse before it gets better !  8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 11/11/23 at 14:36:16

Finally the missing link the missing part for the 250. Negotiated from 8:30 to just afternoon. Like I said I knew I was gonna have to pay big ! Honing my negotiating skills and wound up with a match set. He didn’t want to sell 1 piece out of an advertised lot of parts. But he was savvy at the game , but I emerged victorious , with the a matched set of side covers not just the right side. Left are relatively easy to find but the right ones are near impossible to find. On C/L ta boot , he put me thru the wringer thinking I was trying to scam him. So now I have a new friend , think he said he has 2 wharehouses or shops full of BSA parts , he’s selling stuff in lots. It is a good day , success. What’s next ?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 11/11/23 at 15:23:11

Some place to store your next lot purchase?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 11/11/23 at 16:27:24

Replenish the stock in my warehouse. 98 % is twin stuff 500 & 650. Very little stuff for singles. But still made a new contact/friend. That was some serious negotiations , he is the kind of guy who has no respect for you if you  can’t talk it up , think I gained his respect. Big Fun

Everyday is a gift !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 11/12/23 at 08:12:53

When I told him I was getting my first BSA back from 40 years ago I knew I had him. That appealed to his builder/ collector side , knowing he was helping me putting one back on the road changed his whole attitude. But he still thought I was scamming him , but I quickly squashed that when I told him just an old man with minimal computer skills and not smart enough scam anyone with a computer. That made him laugh and relaxed quite a bit after that. He asked how many bikes I own (6) and how many I’ve had and the answer was I honestly don’t know. He knew I was the real deal and just on the hunt !   8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 11/19/23 at 09:39:24

The garage is closed for a while. With a sad heart and blurry eyes. I lost my little sister to cancer yesterday. In our family , it’s always a renewal , one is lost and another gained. My youngest daughter is pregnant !    

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 11/19/23 at 11:16:20

So sorry to hear of your loss.  [ch128591][ch127995]

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 11/19/23 at 19:33:40

Ruttly  ,  I hope she had a good life .

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 11/19/23 at 21:51:38

Ruttly - so sorry to hear this.   Losing a family member is the worst.  I lost my mother in August. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by ohiomoto on 11/20/23 at 12:00:42


1F38393921344D0 wrote:
The garage is closed for a while. With a sad heart and blurry eyes. I lost my little sister to cancer yesterday. In our family , it’s always a renewal , one is lost and another gained. My youngest daughter is pregnant !    
-------------------------

Sorry for your loss, but happy for the future addition to your family.  

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 11/21/23 at 06:14:42

Ruttly:

Sorry for your loss.  I only have one sibling - a sister.  I can understand what a loss this is for you.

You are in our prayers.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 11/25/23 at 08:48:18

Thanks guys , A long story goes with it. But I don’t want think about it let alone write about it. So I’m back , broken , but back.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/05/23 at 07:20:23

It’s official the 250 project has begun ! Stripped rear hub out of wheel , removed bearings and it’s soaking now. Once clean , off to be media blasted and powder coated. I touched the frame & engine while I was at my buddies house. Many boxes of parts await their arrival. Once the wheels get built it should go quick after a few mock-ups. The 500 is still in progress too , tracker will be on the table soon for maintenance then the SR 500 . Really need another table ! Still working on sorting tools & transferring tools from roll away to the bigger rollaway. Garage is a mess with 13 5 gal buckets of tools , one bucket the vise grip black hole with almost 50 pairs of vise grips.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/07/23 at 08:48:58

Some of my buddies ask , Why a 250 ? Many reasons , too many to list , let’s just say it checks all the boxes but one , it’s missing a happy button. But when I rode this bike years ago , it started better than any Honda or Yamaha. Gas on , give it a tickle , key on and kick. First kick everytime , yeah everytime ! Come to just learn a bit more about these bikes. What I always thought it was a flasher tucked away inside the electrical box next to the coil sits a brite blue capacitor. Lucas designed system with capacitor so it does not need any assist from battery to start. Dead battery not an issue to get it started , very cool system indeed. Most capacitors systems replace the battery , this uses both or not. I’m confident starting shouldn’t be like a 500. Focus is light & lean , under 300lbs for sure , while still keeping some of its original looks , but with Ruttly’s stamp on it . Just enough ponies and a big front brake. Send out both hubs for powder coating asap and find an upholstery shop to recover the seat. Then hubs go to wheel shop , cant remember the name , not even sure he is still in business. Wheel Works in Hayward CA I think. I go get engine & frame next week.   8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/07/23 at 09:10:26

Hey guys , not having any luck finding that wheel builder in LA area. Seems many here have used them. Any names or links would be helpful. Thanks

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by verslagen1 on 12/07/23 at 09:42:16

https://www.buchananspokes.com/categories/rims.asp

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/07/23 at 11:06:27

Tanx Versy  8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/08/23 at 09:14:23

Yeah I’m gonna give Buchanan’s a try , they come highly rated. When it’s time I’ll be sticking with a 19” up front and a 18” taking up the rear both in stock width but in polished aluminum & polished spokes & nipples around powder coated hubs. Not sure of tire selection , Dunlop D404s , a modern Dunlop for a good price. And it’s a great tire ! But would like a set of modern performance tires for plowing thru turns on a small 250. While it will have a finely tuned front brake of a 650 with a stock rear brake , I don’t plan on using them. A 250 road bike is all about keeping your momentum, quite literally by not using the brakes or very little (only if needed). Always enjoyed riding small bikes fast. Kinda like wringing the last drop of water out of a wash rag !   ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 12/09/23 at 10:44:29

I went with Buchanon's for my tracker wheels.  They aren't cheap, but the quality is worth it imho.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/09/23 at 18:08:20

Yup , you can’t even have a roller without them ! $$$ idewk !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/10/23 at 00:18:53

I’m so sick I can already see the roller with the bars on it ! Still need to test tank I wanna use for leaks before buffing and paint , send out side covers for media blasting. All 3 pieces going to painter. I have a spare tank so , painter can only hold up final product. I would be real happy to finish it 2024. What a Christmas present that will be. I am excited as any build , expectations to meet or exceed , none what so ever. Just gonna build it to my specs , how I want it. I don’t build show bikes , i build to ride. All I know is it will be unique. I have collected about 80% of parts needed , almost , gettin there. Can’t wait for the first mock up , just sick.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 12/10/23 at 03:08:31

If you have to line the tank to fix leaks or prevent future rust.  Use the Caswell Epoxy liner.  I have tried the others and they just don't work as well.  The white liner that has Acetone as the thinner can strip paint and is not very durable.  The silver stuff that Eastwood sells is OK....but not great.  The Caswell Epoxy is tough and bulletproof.

The only thing you need to be careful of with the Caswell Epoxy is that the temperature needs to be up in the 70-80 degrees.  If you try to apply it when the room temperature is cold it is very thick and hard to get flowing around the inside of the tank.  I have it in my Cafe' tank for the last 10 years/17,000 miles and it still looks just like it did when I put it in.  (I was coating it to prevent future rust).

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/10/23 at 16:40:33

Both tanks aluminum  , but if it was on a 500 the tank will have damage on the left side from rocker cover studs. This one has been welded , I just need to make sure it’s good before I send it out for polish n paint. However the cap seals are rotten away and need replaced. The welded tank will still need a cleaning inside the other tank is spotless inside , I was the last person to put gas in it almost 44 years ago !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/10/23 at 19:07:11

My tracker tank was coated with the Eastwood , haven’t had any problems so far. It’s been modified twice so I thought it needed it.  I’ll put a new cap seal on that tank and some old petcocks ,  check it for leaks , then wash it out and send it.
,

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/13/23 at 08:32:21

For the most part , chasing parts is close to done. Sure there will be a few items overlooked and all that should be caught on the first mock-up. Same approach as always make the roller feel like a race bike. Some shake their head and walk away on this project. Guess they think I’ve gone off the deep end into a death dive , maybe I have ! Clear to see I set the bar with the tracker and expectations are high and some think the 250 is in no way able to measure up. This is where I differ from others , the bike has personal historical value to me. No matter how good it turns out there will still be those that judge it on displacement. I don’t care , she will be a fine motorcycle and stand her ground in pics or on the road. I’m sure they will look awesome in pics together. Same builder , same painter , there will be very subtle ties between the  two bikes while still being very different !   8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 12/13/23 at 09:40:44

Of course, I agree.
Function … functional form … over size/power.

I’ve taken the same route with my Savage.

My newly acquired BSA Thunderbolt is on a “stock” route however, being in virtually stock form when purchased, I intend to keep it that way as of now, and maybe permanently.  Receipts say the carb was new when replaced but jets that were in it raise questions.  The main jet in it was a 185 instead of a 230 listed in the book; the needle jet was different as well; the needle was different too though neither one of them (one in carb & the one in the Amal carb rebuild kit) had any identification on them; and there was no pilot jet at all in the carb while a number 20 pilot jet is listed for the carb and this month & year of production.   I’m surprised that whoever worked on this bike/carb was able to get it running as well as they did.  I’m curious about how changing the jets to stock specs will improve performance.  It started easily before, with 1 or 2 kicks needed to start it, and ran smoothly up to 90 which is as far as I have taken so far.  We shall see.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 12/13/23 at 18:36:20

Hay Lancer

Like this :  https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=bsa+thunderbolt+motorcycle+1975+pictures&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F87%2F00%2Fe6%2F8700e637d5b37bb0335d46477b58e611.jpg#id=-1&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F87%2F00%2Fe6%2F8700e637d5b37bb0335d46477b58e611.jpg&action=click

https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/BSA/BSA%20A65.htm

48 HP of Fun on two wheels ?  

You know that's the same HP as my modern new 650 is rated ?   And it looks very similar in style .   :)     Its even the same color !!  :) :)   You don't think RE has been prowling through history to see what was good , do ya ???  :-?

Is your the single carb model ?  

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 12/13/23 at 19:35:14

Yep, my BSA has a single Amal Mark 1 carb; 1 1/8” bore.
The engine is rated at 46 hp; max speed 104-110 mph depending on the magazine doing the testing for their write-up.  Of course location and weather also play a role in the testing.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 12/13/23 at 20:10:20

I can't hardly wait to see it !   :)

Single carb , 4 speed , under 400# , 75mm x 74mm B&S - seems like a great combo !   8-)
.............

Hay get that thing running good and we'll ride our 650's out to Slapout Oklahoma next summer and I'll buy you a "Slapout - T-Shirt" .   ;)

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/state/2023/08/03/slaughterville-to-slapout-9-towns-have-the-weirdest-names-hooker-ixl-oklahoma/70424525007/


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/14/23 at 04:10:34

Hey Lancer , What size is your Amal carb ? Stock I believe is a 30mm , a swap to a 32mm is easy. Best to finish jetting on the 30 first for a baseline to work with for the 32mm.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 12/14/23 at 05:05:12

Nice bike.....I like the style of the old BSA bikes.  I really like the Gold Star - but I don't think I could get it kick started reliably, and I am used to riding bikes with balance shafts!

It is hard for me to get into the "Spring Fever" title of this thread......it is 20 degrees outside! :o

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/14/23 at 07:41:57

Well I bought a giant open end wrench that is so big it may have been used on bridge or dam construction , something pretty dam big. I named it BFW. It is destined to be supporting a sign I’m gonna have laser or water cut aluminum sign. Spring Fever Garage  , might even back light it for fun.
Overnights here 30/40 , days might break 61 , rideable for sure , couple a good hours in the afternoon. I may thin the herd a bit , oh no you won’t , is the current battle going on in my head. Must be a new strain of Spring Fever

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 12/14/23 at 18:39:05

Ruttly you can't sell now ... its not time for anything but Christmas Presents !    
You got any of them low enough in price to give away ?  


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 12/15/23 at 03:39:55

As MM can attest to - the members of this forum will support you whenever you decide to buy a new bike.....we are certainly "enablers".

We seldom support the sale of any motorcycle - unless it is to provide room or funds for a newer/better/faster/cooler motorcycle.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/15/23 at 06:05:36

I can always count on everyone to set me straight. Seems the 250 is an unpopular build , most really wanted to see the sportster get built. So selling it seemed to be an easy way out. Just drives them nuts it just sitting. Everything in its own time ,  two 40 year old projects take priority. Sportster would be a high $$$$ project , but that’s not why I don’t want to build it.  I’m not a Harley guy.  I don’t need or want 140 mph Sporty. I just want to ride thumpers , they bring me great deal of satisfaction. Building and riding them makes me smile , takes me back a bit. The 250 is the perfect build at the perfect time , won’t be a 9 year project like the tracker I’m  hoping to finish it by late 2024 , registered & road ready.  The painter may not share my finish date but I have a spare tank. I will wait for painted body work on his schedule. I’m learning!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 12/15/23 at 20:55:26

I sure you'll enjoy ridding the 250 thumper !  ,

I'm still ridding my 350 thumper and saving the 650 twin for hauling the wife and/or keeping up with Lancer.
Truth be told
I'm itching to get the Performance Cam in the 350 single cylinder.   I'm waiting till after Christmas for anything new to work on.
By then , I should have received and installed the luggage rack and pannier forms for the 650 twin.   As things are now : if I want to haul anything home I need to take the 350 with it's trunk and bags (74L of lockable weather proof luggage space).  

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/16/23 at 08:38:38

The 250 might just be my last full build , only cause I’m gonna ride the crap out of it. My Sunday morning canyon carver leaving daily duties to the tracker. I simply don’t care what others think about ! They will all want to ride it when I’m done and then the “ it’s ok “ and “ it kinda cool “ comments will emerge. Let’s make it perfectly clear , no one can ever change my vision of a build. Stay true to your vision, it will payoff.  8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 12/16/23 at 19:56:09

Hay Ruttly

I've noticed that all the bikes I keep for a while all end up with the same accessory's .

Do you ever have that same problem ?  

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/17/23 at 08:30:51

Me too , big piston , cam , carb , exhaust are all mandatory and easier to hide. Your bikes are tastefully done and don’t look over loaded , sure signs of a diehard biker ! Get the 650 dressed out yet ?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 12/17/23 at 17:57:28


031103111C0F000D064E0 wrote:
I've noticed that all the bikes I keep for a while all end up with the same accessory's .


That is because you use your bikes all for doing the same thing.......you ride on long trips and need luggage, you ride in the cold and wet and you need a windshield......you get lost and need GPS!

If you were to only ride the Meteor around home on nice days you could likely remove the windshield.

My Cafe' bike is not a touring bike - no windshield and no luggage!  When I need to haul something it must fit in a backpack!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 12/17/23 at 21:27:34

I need to catch some of Rutt's sickness!  I have been seriously side tracked from my tracker (see what I did, there?  8-)).

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 12/17/23 at 21:44:10

Ruttly

I've got the Touring windshield and the Tank Vault mounted.

I have the crash bar/engine guard on hand , also on hand is the Givi side case mounts (two buttons at the bottom and the turn-key catcher at top).

I'm waiting on the Luggage Rack to arrive.   The side cases rack and the Luggage rack share mounting bolts so I think the Luggage rack might be on the bottom ?  :-?    
I'd like to have the side cases tucked in close ... but ... I'm in no hurry so when I have both items on hand I'll check for fit to see the options.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/295326352238?fits=Make%3ARoyal+Enfield&hash=item44c2d2836e:g:tMgAAOSw7ixjA8mx&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8D2KD8IedSNovTMERpQaliyyhed4Bx6f2XNKNo8uzjGZoQFMHHQ7cWunCTWVlQOactbDljlOiSIOJT1q3%2BG4aMsIPa6T5Cv1FK%2FpgBnSw%2BR8v8zxuJAEvgPdbUs%2BgYjG5gMTRmQT1vAVTzyMejd8s%2FBBD37O%2FvqCCtEGMgjzseqvZA6PuaQ4OW2OrHq0DyAhJaaaOCMrwJMVsoSlst1%2Byzk1TFguRHeYK8YlK%2F2dAyd0ujZ5QPS5hLIAuVHVIxUhNWgJHcy4QBBWYi9SAN%2FZIe7008sN5DNpDZo0jHmpcP2cxfqEDQy0ItZWGnGwCApEeA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMuvKGt49j

It fits the 650 too .    I think it would fit just about anything with up to a 4 gallon fuel tank ?    But   It does have the "RE" emblem made into it .   The main compartment will hold a gallon of milk after expanding out the velcro .  ;)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 12/18/23 at 04:52:42


456263637B6E170 wrote:
Hey Lancer , What size is your Amal carb ? Stock I believe is a 30mm , a swap to a 32mm is easy. Best to finish jetting on the 30 first for a baseline to work with for the 32mm.



The stock carb on the Thunderbolt is a 28mm unit.  I’ve thought about trying a 30 or 32mm carb but that will likely be a bit later, after I’ve got the Amal sorted out with the correct jets.  I’ve finally got all the components needed for the Amal, and it’s back together.  There is a rubber piece that connects the carb with the air filters that is badly aged and has numerous cracks in it.  I ordered a repair goop but it arrived a mess, the container leaked badly during shipping and was of no use.  Need to order more from another source.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 12/18/23 at 06:19:43

Hay Lancer ... how about one of those little air filters with a chrome color matching the bike color ?   I've seen them in chrome , Blueish , Redish , and Goldish .  
They come in a multitude of sizes .

Then you can use the air box for secret storage !  ::)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/18/23 at 22:22:49

My 250 has a 28 that I will jet using some stock specs to start. But it wil end up with a 30 with a finned intake spacer and a velocity stack with a foam air filter. Pretty sure I did some port work on it when I built it 40 years ago. It won’t be a hot rod or anything , but it will breathe good and help it give a good healthy thump for otherwise stock 250 (stock piston & cam). Guy I originally bought the 250 from had a 71 bonneville 650 with a 2 into 1 pipe and dual 32 amals , what a ride ! So yeah you can do a 30 or a 32 on your 650 , all 3 carbs are all the same exterior dimensions , change only the carb

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 12/19/23 at 18:33:32

One of the issues to deal with is for a ‘71 model it has the oil in frame with the big steel tube for a backbone that also runs down behind the carb, so the space behind the carb is only about 2.5” so even a Uni foam filter won’t fit behind the carb.  I will have to use the stock cracked rubber piece for now.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/20/23 at 07:52:50

Most every rubber piece on the later BSAs can be had , it’s a reproduction but no one’s gonna know but me and you. The 71 uses the same air box as a Triumph also OIF , so lm pretty sure it will be the same. Triumph also had single carb models. Lots of good British parts dealer here in the states & UK. Answers to your ?s are an email away !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/20/23 at 07:56:49


584762656F666A79600B0 wrote:
I need to catch some of Rutt's sickness!  I have been seriously side tracked from my tracker (see what I did, there?  8-)).

Oh you got the fever , it’s just misdirected.  All in good time !  8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/20/23 at 08:03:43

Lancer when I was a kid we would make a spring out of a coat hanger & oil up a sock and that was our air filters cause we were gonna ride no matter what.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 12/20/23 at 09:14:12


4C6B6A6A72671E0 wrote:
Lancer when I was a kid we would make a spring out of a coat hanger & oil up a sock and that was our air filters cause we were gonna ride no matter what.


The poor man's "Filtron"! ;)

I just cringe when I see all the old motorcycle and car engines without any form of air cleaner.  Air cleaners really didn't show up on engines  until the 1920's.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/22/23 at 06:38:32

Yesterday I did 180 mile loop to pickup my BSA 250 and bring her home. A rebirth of sorts for the bike maybe for me too. I’ll be able to give it a new born on date when I’m done. Tore the forks down to get at the sliders I want to polish before assembly. New tubes , springs , seals & fresh oil. Brakes will be next. My little 275 lb 250 will have the same brakes as a 650 but even more refined. The conical hubs are heavy , but stout. In the UK they call them comical hubs. The brakes are fair to good if you maintain & adjust them. It will stop just fine.  Gonna lower it a tad , give it a slightly different stance , get that COG as low as I can. Hopefully  I’ll be out hunting RE 350s this time next year !!!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/22/23 at 07:00:29

Just checked some numbers a 650 , 420 lb against 250 , 275 lb . That’s a 145 lb difference , so that’s 12) 12 lb bowling balls in a backpack I won’t be wearing.  Only real difference is horsepower. However cornering the 250 will require a different strategy than the tracker , brake late only if needed. Remember find any excuse not to use the brakes , sooner or later it will become second nature , brakes just slow you down.  ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/23/23 at 08:16:41

I absolutely love the look on my wife’s face , absolute and total disgust and it ain’t like she hasn’t been hearing about it for months. She will get over it , think she’d be used to it by now after 30 + years and who knows how many bikes in that time. I guess the build wouldn’t have her blessing until I have to endure a few days of less than motivating comments and sour faces , if she knew I started laughing right after the door to the garage get slammed she would have my a$s ! Isn’t marriage wonderful. I got todays gift , I woke up and it’s a sunny day ! I got sliders to polish ! 8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/25/23 at 08:54:33

Ok , Merry Christmas ! Let’s get it over with , it’s fun and good to see everyone. Clean up the mess and shove everyone out the door wave good by. So I can get back in the garage , won’t be any ride time today. But lots to do. Building forks , waiting for a friend to cut me some lowering sleeves on his lathe , in the meanwhile I’m cleaning and polishing some triumph sliders , lighter than the BSA sliders. Lineage of the BSA/Triumph fork is it was copied from a Marzzochi , in turn was copied from a Ceriani. This is why it’s always been a good /stable handling bikes. I’m really gonna surprise some bigger bikes in the tight stuff , the usual just lay back study how they corner and when the time is right , thump on by       8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 12/25/23 at 20:43:11

Ruttly

This is exactly how I see the world too !  

, brake late only if needed. Remember find any excuse not to use the brakes , sooner or later it will become second nature , brakes just slow you down.    

Those brakes are a real DRAG on getting around a curve ...   ;)

Last time I needed a brake on a twistie road was the second year I had the Guzzi V7.   Me , Dave and Stew was coming down the North side of Blood Mt. GA.   I came out of a right curve and the next left (short-90 deg) was coming up WAY TOO FAST ... so a hand-full of front brake was in order and I dropped 20mph in seemingly 20 feet .    Some times while  going down-hill ... the speed can creep-up on a feller !   :-[


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/29/23 at 10:44:20

Mock-up #1 with frame , engine , tank & seat. See it coming back together really stirs emotions knowing I was the last person to put put fuel in her and the last person to ride it ! For the forty plus years it was gone and I knew it was there , but also made no attempts to retrieve it. Didn’t think he would sell it back to me. Anyway it’s home , tucked in , warm and safe!. Building 2 BSAs now , the 500 TT bike wil be done and the 250 will be very close to done by this time next year. I won’t call it important but I will say these 2 bikes will make me whole again when they are finished. One to ride on Sundays and one to race on Fridays. Tracker fills the rest in , raising hell all over town the rest of the week !     ;D       Echoing Evil Laughter

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/29/23 at 11:06:01

I do read a bit and what I read about the BSA 250 is good but one word is in  every review “Slow”. Well the guy I learned from said it’s just a compressor and you just make it more efficient. Good porting job (done) to start with then bigger carb jetted to the new better flowing exhaust. With a stock 10:1 compression ratio it should respond  to flow improvements. In the past I’ve used a 500 Mx cam in the 250 with some success. I’m leaning towards stock cam with flow improvements. The 500 mx cam had a good power but  left you searching to keep rpm up in that range. Ok for dirt not for a street thumper , it will live longer too ! It’s evolving into a serious build and is getting the attention it needs !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 12/31/23 at 15:52:37

The bike I imagine Rutt working on.

Reality - we may never know, since he never posts any pictures!!! (I would swear, but the site censors)  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/31/23 at 16:17:44

The engine was rebuilt right before I sold it. All that time it was in the back corner of his garage under the workbench , keeping his 500 company. 40 years of dust ,dirt , oxidation & patina topped with rat $hit. I’m tempted to just stick in the frame as is ! Cleaning & polishing it will be a real job , I think it will getting cleaning and polishing before I tear it down to replace seals & gaskets. Doing final polishing while it’s apart. It’s all just part of the build. Polishing is messy & time consuming but some can be painted or powder coated , but some things have to be polished. The sliders are coming along just fine , lots of work but worth it. All the time trying to reduce weight where possible without drilling holes in everything.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 12/31/23 at 16:28:28

Nothing quite that extreme just a complete and thorough build. Somewhat stock , keeping stock appearance. Back in time a bit from the height of popularity to bankruptcy , absolutely British styling at its best. But I would build a CX 500/650 , I like the engine. They make great projects.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 01/01/24 at 10:44:35

I was looking at the engine and wondering what year Guzzi that was but then I got to looking at the cooling fans ?

One of my brothers had the 650 Silver Wing version and liked it till the Clutch throw-out bearing went out.   I was a little worried about the Guzzi having the same problem --- being the same basic design .  It could have been his driving habits that brought on the problem ?


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 01/01/24 at 15:49:46

Pulled the yellowed paper towels out of the ports , pushed it thru a rotation or two with the kick starter. A tad stiff but real good for 40+ yr sleep. Shine a bright light into ports , I definitely ported it , looks great , she’s ready for a 30mm carb for sure. I may just clean & polish key pieces and run it. See what kind of wrench I was way back when.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 01/01/24 at 21:23:27

Treat it nice there Ruttly

Remember your dealing with a senor machine  ...   ;D


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 01/02/24 at 08:31:54

Oh she gets the best of care and the best of whatever she needs. I can’t screw this up , it’s my retirement bike. Just a pokey little 250 for the backroads. I don’t remember exactly how fast it was but eighty wasn’t a problem just took awhile to gather all that speed up. Just a nice exhaust & carb after that I’ll live with whatever she can muster up. Some stable suspension and some Dunlops , she will handle fine. Not to mention some very refined 650 brakes to handle coming in hot ! My 52 yr old vintage BSA will be a solid mount. She will run again ,    8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 01/02/24 at 18:28:20

  just took awhile to gather all that speed up. / it’s my retirement bike 

I like putt putting around on my 75 mph - single too , even though I could take the 650 .    
There are times and places for them both.  :)
I'm glad you got a putt putt too ,   heck I think everybody should have one ! ;)


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 01/04/24 at 20:51:02

Low & slow , stock rear shocks are 13” and will replace with 320mm=12.6” and lowering sleeves/blocks will lower it .800” and quicken the steering a tad bit. I want crank shaft below axles , a nice low COG for ease of handling. Thought about running a 17” in the rear and a 18” in front to further lowering it but have decided to keep 18” rear and 19” front for appearances.  Aluminum triple clamps and fuel tank and rims and rear sprocket all shave weight in comparison to their steel/cast iron counterparts. I’m using Triumph 650 sliders that also shave weight from BSA sliders and look better all polished , more for looks than weight reduction but I’ll take it. It’s not a quest to lighten it , things just happen to work out that way. I’ll be happy no matter how much final weight is cause there is not much left but to drill holes in everything and that’s not my style. Anything south of 275 lbs would just make the smile bigger and maybe the bike a tad faster ! Investigating some different powder coaters in an effort for high quality & better prices but I will be using the same painter. Also still haven’t settled on the fenders aluminum (lighter) or polished stainless shiny n sexy , a bit heavier. They will be from Speedwell Mud Guards(made in the UK) the best fenders you can put on a British road turd like this. I gotta be crazy for building this bike and even crazier to want to keep and ride it , forever.     :-/

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 01/04/24 at 21:26:32

Carburetor will be a Amal Concentric 30mm (stock 28mm) with a Webco finned carb spacer about 1 inch thick , spaces carb further from intake valve allowing better atomization and a velocity stack on the other end with a foam air filter. Should work real well with the ported head. Mostly will be shrouded by stock side covers that will also conceal battery , cdi box , horn. I will be using stock header pipe with an earlier muffler that I’ll have to mod to make it fit. After it’s a roller then mock-ups get serious , exhaust will be a priority when it’s time arrives.    
Forks
Brakes
Wheels
Tires
Things will start moving much faster after it ROLLS !
Can’t wait to see her stance !    8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 01/10/24 at 08:51:50

Trying to give it the Brit look as well. I actually found a big wide set of mx bars with the big curve in the cross bar. Very cool Brit look but super expensive too. American mx bars have the straight cross bar. But this is a street scrambler not so much of dual purpose so im keeping the 34” flat track bars with the low bend. Some chrome non oem switches and maybe a set of those handlebar turn signals that go at the end of the bar. Nothing set in stone yet but I am using the stock Lucas headlight and a non oem Lucas taillight. No junk , every piece quality , all tastefully done. A single chrome mirror , no tach or speedo , when you look down lots of shiny , absolutely no crap on the bars. NO cel phone holders,chargers of any kind , no crap !
I would hope an Englishman would find it well done and want to take her down the lane for a spin ! Close to 39” wide with those bar end turn signals not a lane splitter , that’s for sure. Was investigating a 280cc big bore kit , cause that’s what I do , but decided against it ! While she should run real good as is l just can’t modify the old girl , just carb and exhaust and I’ll be more than happy with whatever she can muster. Big bore leads to cam , cam leads to modified valves and head. Keep it simple I have to remember what I am building and not overdue it. Tasteful , light , low and slow , what an odd combination of goals to shoot for.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 01/24/24 at 12:34:26

Got to get over the cabin fever to let the spring fever rage. Tracker has been in hibernation since before thanksgiving. Had an opportunity to get it out and took it. Enough stuff moved to just slip it out and I was gone , even had an hour of sun. Gas a bit flat , but still all throttle , chilly but it didn’t matter. Must have been all the rain , the road was clean  , Dunlops felt like Velcro. Crazy sticky even before tire warms up. Just gave the downtown area a blast and then disappear out of city limits. Bike feels large , must be the 1” bars feel big in my hands and the wide bars. Short ride but feels good to be back in the saddle , more important fresh air injected into my brain along with all the aromas that heal me when riding in farm/ranch country. This is why tracker has been named  “The Healer”. It possesses everything needed  to heal my soul in a single ride !    8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 01/25/24 at 19:41:47

Hay Ruttly

I seem to remember Dave is working on a British version/looking LS650 !  

I'm itching to see what it looks like .   Some of them old British Singles from the 50's and 60's had a lot of Charm to them !  
Well , in my eyes anyway !!  :)

https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/BSA/BSA%20B40.htm

This one is the same size and HP as my modern 350 !  ;)  
But
The have the gear shifter on the wrong side ?   ::)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 01/25/24 at 20:02:52

Thinking of "Lookers" , I cam across this Beautiful thing !

https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/BSA/BSA%20B40.htm-down

Hay , is that front fender on "up-side-down"  :-?

........

The Royal Enfield has took some cosmetic lesson from this one and applied them to their 350J Classic .   8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 01/26/24 at 04:09:28

It is very likely that Royal Enfield used some of their old motorcycles to help design the Classic 350.  Royal Enfield was a British company "back in the day" and made the Bullet 500 from 1931 until 1966.  It was made in India from 1955 until 2020.

There is no doubt the BSA Goldstar is one of the sexiest motorcycles ever built.  The big single cylinder motorcycles of that era are my favorite style of motorcycle......I have never owned or ridden one and I believe they are really not good riding motorcycles by current standards.  They can be hard to kick start, they shake, the brakes are not very good, etc.  But they sure are nice to look at!

1953 Matchless


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 01/26/24 at 08:00:15

Look at the size of that rack !!!  :o :o ::) ::) 8-) 8-)  8-)   :)

,

well it might come in handy too  :)?   ;D

Hay Dave , we're wanting to see how a 1965 BSA/Savage looks.   :-?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 01/26/24 at 10:50:32

Matchless & AJS are both dream bikes , made from unobtainium ! I guess it’s been imbedded in my brain at an early age to ride beautiful vintage bikes with only one piston. I still love my tracker ! It’s almost vintage , right.  And I just read that Yamaha is making the SR400 Again , for overseas markets , not USA or Japan.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 01/29/24 at 09:18:03

Finished the 250 forks , basically new. Easier to list what I reused than new , reused sliders & dampning rods. Everything else is new , with 3/4” lowering sleeves I fabbed. Super smooth with nothing but assembly oil , will fill them later , after a Dr appointment. I’ll do a final buff on the sliders then too. Triple clamps are soaking , new bearings waiting. Bought a kit for the forks that had springs,legs,seals,sealing washers fork dampning rods and drain screws and dust boots. Sliders were in fair condition but took much cleaning and polishing , still polishing. Front wheel and forks , headlight get there just before you do and they have to to look GOOD !!   8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/10/24 at 00:38:57

Scored some side covers to go with the stock tank ( alloy tank with original paint). Took one day each to restore what was left of the paint. Massage a few dings out , remove dirt first , remove oxidation from paint , polishing compound , sealing wax. P/O had scraped the stickers off , Trail Blazer 250 so they came from a rebranded BSA 250. They show 50 + yrs but are smooth and shiny. The tank will get the same treatment , due to aluminum polishing and paint restoration it’s gonna take about a week to finish. Tank is clean inside , replaced cap sealing rubber and 2 new petcocks. Box these pieces when done for protection , use them mock ups only. Finally got first pieces out for powder coating , brake backing plates in black satin 80%. Then brakes will be assembled & boxed. Drop off wheel hubs when I pick up the brakes. Wheels soon ! Due to lack of space I’m gonna anchor frame to workbench for mock-ups. Engine in frame to build exhaust and air intake and battery/cdi/horn locations. Parts accumulation nearing the end , just some small items and fenders left. Almost no one builds the 250 , everyone builds the 500 , always a non conforming , got to be different & still refusing to ride a cookie cutter bike !  8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/14/24 at 09:25:25

We’ve had some 60+ days for a few hours for 4 days now , but rain today. Got tracker out for a few rides in this mid winter bliss. Short rides , morning rides on dew kissed roads , patch of fog here and there. Once she’s got 10 miles on her , she warmed up and ready to make me smile. Tires take a bit to warm up on cold damp roads. Early morning , damp air , crisp 55 ish makes for ideal conditions. Throttle response on point , damp roads , a bit of slip n sliding goin on. I like when front wheel slips n grips and rear wheel adjusts itself , just like a blue groove track , huge fun kicks that heart rate up a few points and the ride ending jump over the R/R tracks followed by a 3rd gear wot wheelie. Always scares the hell out of me but it feels good and it has to look cool as hell too. For not being a race bike , it really puts a smile on ya !  ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/15/24 at 08:34:38

Way crisp this morning , 50 ish and rain washed roads thanks to the last Pineapple Express that blew thru last night. These mornings are not to be wasted , for me it’s the reward for good jetting. The bike ain’t any faster , doesn’t make anymore power but perfect jetting and crisp winter mornings just accents the jetting , instant throttle response across the board. Gee kinda similar to a race bike. No cough , hiccups or farts just a handful of throttle. Coffee done and so is this post , I’m gone !     8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/16/24 at 10:02:29

Well yesterday’s ride was different, so I was heading for fuel when  2 lanes going down to one (cone zone) sitting at red light. Bike stalls won’t restart , roll bike into cone zone when the Leo who can never seem to get behind this bike has me cold but traffic forces him thru intersection. He’s watching me and like wise , he turns into back of strip mall and has to go all the way around the block , he is definitely coming for me. So I realize I’m not on reserve , quick flip , start and go heading straight at him and notice construction on apartments on my left , roll into driveway park behind 2 construction trucks , zoom he flys by and I’m gone. Makes the right and off he goes. Screw gettin gas , quietly head home. Maybe next time but not today !  Hope I ruined his day , he really wants to pull me over , I have no idea if I have pissed this guy off before or if he want to look at the bike. I don’t know and don’t want to find out why or what.  I’ll try again today  ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 02/17/24 at 11:08:43

;D

Hay Ruttly

Put your bike in the truck or on a trailer and park it beside the Leo's favorite hangout (Donut-Shop) and wait for him to show up ?   :)

Be nice !!!  ;)

Maybe , put a Reticules high price on a for sale sign and see if he/she calls ya ?   Ya never know who the next friend you make will be ???   8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/18/24 at 10:31:12

He may be an enthusiast but he can admire it from a distance. My day will come , let’s hope it’s a good outcome. I always give him a courtesy wave when I see him , maybe he thinks I’m taunting him. He would definitely know if I was taunting him ! My father always said “ let a sleeping dog lay “. I still might be a tad wild but I abide by the “no  taunting rule”.   ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/19/24 at 16:04:24

Just got first batch back from powder coater. Front & rear brake backing plates done in black at 80% satin , not glossy black. I’ll spend tonight assembling brakes , fronts with longer levers on the cams and a longer lever on the rear brake. Get everything assembled and ready to install it , box them up , put them with the forks and carb and triple clamps , with all the other done and ready to install stuff. Lots to do still , frame/exhaust will be a huge milestone to pass ! 8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/24/24 at 09:34:50

While parts are piling up , it seems the “to do “ list is ever growing. Next group of parts going to powder coater this week. Free up some space too. Boxed up assembled brakes to go with forks , triple treez , carb and a box of smaller new parts and another box with all the new electrical parts & harnesses. Electrical will be epic all new with cdi ignition , haven’t made up my mind wether or not I’ll use the Lucas solid state rectifier and eliminate the zener diode , then it would be updated as it can be using Lucas parts. I believe it’s also possible to alter it to change it from positive ground too. I need to investigate it more , difficult now I got the boot from BSA forum  ;D ;D  ;D ;D ;D. some very sensitive folks ! I just have to contact some friends in the UK about what works the best , before final wiring. All wiring will be new Lucas harnesses and components and no led lights. However hidden somewhere out of view will be a usb socket so I can temporarily add a $8 gps speedo to check performance, it will also have a voltmeter on the usb socket to monitor lithium battery voltage. Usually it’s changes that really slow progress but no changes so far , very little fab work on this project and once all fab work is done , then frame and a bunch of small parts off to see the P/C. Still have to polish the aluminum tank , some mindless work but it has to get done. Side covers are restored original paint with character , the tank will match with 50+ years of character. I have another tank and set of side covers to have painted for it , but that’s down the road a bit. I like the black cross on the tank and black side covers ,  new model designation “ Black Star 250 SS “.
For those who don’t know “SS” is BSA s designation for Street Scrambler. It has a bit of an evil look to it , paint job planned would ruin its present persona ! We will see about new paint , think the original paint gives it an aged , destinguished , sophisticated  look to it. I figure the professional buffing and paint on tank & side covers , at the very least $1000-1500 easy. It just might stay as is , Black , chrome & polished aluminum and what’s left of original red pin stripes.    8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 02/24/24 at 15:06:37

Dern Ruttly !!!     Dang , Dang , Dang  ???

Where's the pictures ?     My imagination can only take me so far before "Crazy" takes over ... ??? ...  ::)


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/24/24 at 18:54:02

No pics yet , next engine in frame mock up will include frame , engine , tank , seat , side covers , rear fender , carb & exhaust ! Maybe someone will leak a pic.
Nothing but a pile of parts at this point and my awesome imagination !
I forget others can’t see it like I do. In my head it’s fully assembled and I’m wiring it !  I was the last to ride it and I will be the first to ride it again.
I see it , I sit on the seat everyday for inspiration, at times it’s the only thing I can focus on. Just a special build , what will I do when it’s done ? Gonna ride the crap out of it ! She will take her place , right next to the tracker.
So lucky to have the opportunity. Very grateful , for sure.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/26/24 at 02:28:19

Been cleaning up the yard , repairing fences , cleaning the pool. We have had a peak at spring here the past week , but rain Monday. Lots to do cause I did almost nothing during the winter. The back yard is a hang out when weather warms and has to look good. After the rain passes it’s time to ride the tracker , give it some fresh fuel , check the tires & oil. Directly out of town seeking open spaces , find a quiet farm road and let her rip. Gonna have to head into the hills above the farmlands , find some new twisties. Hopefully this time next year I will be on the 250 , on Sundays !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 02/26/24 at 08:17:50

We got SUNSHINE !  and 62F , I might ... NEED ... to go for a ride today instead of "Choosing-a-Chore"  today  ?  ::) ? ...   and it's only 10:00 AM !




Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/26/24 at 09:08:07

Dr. Ruttly’s prescription for cabin fever :
Take 2 rides today , ride until you feel renewed and there will be no reason for you to call me in the morning ! Now go self medicate. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 02/26/24 at 18:21:58

I did

I needed some "Wire-Nuts" to complete the first "Lighting-Circuit" at my son's house we're building.   So , I got a ride (w/long way home) and a project done today too !   ;)

........

I needed to refill the fuel tank while I was out .
So
With 187.3 miles on the trip set it needed 3.02 gallons to refill.   The motor only has less than 750 miles on it ... so ... it's still getting loosened up.
I think it needs a nice long ride to Texas or something similar. !  :) :)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 02/27/24 at 03:20:18


5B495B49445758555E160 wrote:
I needed some "Wire-Nuts" to complete the first "Lighting-Circuit" at my son's house we're building.  ;)



It sounds like you have a long way to go to finish that house!


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 02/27/24 at 16:24:06

Long , LOng , LONg , LONG ... Way .   !

I ran out of the first box of them !  ;)

I figure they will be camping in the lower level about time warm weather sets in
and
be ready for cool weather by next fall ?  

Those "Turn-Key" houses are REALLY EXPENSIVE !!!

Especially in the 3000 foot , three level sizes  .

................

I'm switching to the down-stairs bathroom next.
Then they could campout , if they want .


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by ohiomoto on 02/27/24 at 19:14:48


002726263E2B520 wrote:
Dr. Ruttly’s prescription for cabin fever :
Take 2 rides today , ride until you feel renewed and there will be no reason for you to call me in the morning ! Now go self medicate. ;D ;D ;D
-------------------


Spring is just around the corner...again.  I hear it cures cabin fever every time.  ;D  

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/29/24 at 07:29:15

Had some really nice days but rain returning here in hours. A few more storm systems to blow thru then it on. Everything is ready to bust out into bloom , birds nesting in the yard. I would have to say the ground hog was correct this year , an early spring !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/29/24 at 07:39:41

I’ve been eye ballin an e bicycle. Who has one ? Do you ride it ? Is it dependable ? I know they are fun , they got 2 wheels and a motor. So lets here about it.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by TheSneeze on 02/29/24 at 08:00:22

As of 10 am this morning we are on blizzard warning until Sunday morning.  60 mph winds coupled with snow totals in the valleys from 6" to 2', depending.  Donner Pass is expecting up to 10' of snow.

Spring fever, eh?

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 02/29/24 at 08:03:13

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354819691956?itmmeta=01HQTSJWMEMQ13FEVWT72QDASR&hash=item529ce6d5b4:g:y70AAOSwNNRlzzyB&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0DpdwbhYu4fOLFIhuS9MfMH7fBF%2BKJTMA0bP6Td2sfTszOLLQ0T930tjmnK4Exvv1OdIAPd6bQeXkuqIFeIg1BwBjC4Q%2BLqtBkljA%2FL7ImUv7j1CMSG%2BIrVWWkxNWvu6BgBh%2Fdl5Q9%2FmVReUGtTuyPTuP6NUy%2BsHk08%2FPex1Y13jUTqUQFHTIuQt2%2B2N87l%2Fs9B%2Bctko4QAjDgtPxV3ziiUO9qbxUPa3el4Djbr4kU33CcsiPveZi%2Fftq%2BCVjEP6NJf04GuHgfpDQ%2B6IDRw2AJM%3D%7Ctkp%3ABlBMULjKy9m-Yw

I am so Lazzy , do they make an electric version  ?  :-[ :-[ :-[

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/29/24 at 14:46:41

Come on that’s just the weatherman getting excited. You be just fine , you do own a snow shovel ? I wouldn’t worry till you can’t get out of 2nd story windows. Sure is beautiful up there huh ! Sunny here I’m goin for a ride !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by ohiomoto on 02/29/24 at 16:24:15


5E79787860750C0 wrote:
I’ve been eye ballin an e bicycle. Who has one ? Do you ride it ? Is it dependable ? I know they are fun , they got 2 wheels and a motor. So lets here about it.

-----------------

I have an e-MTB and an e-road bike.  Pretty high-performance, relatively low-powered and pedal assist only.  They are very quiet and maintain a more natural cycling feel.  I love them.  

I've also ridden a few other lower-performance eBikes and they are cool too.  They were mostly heavy city bikes.  I can't say I enjoyed those bikes but I enjoyed where they took me.  

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 02/29/24 at 19:58:03

Yeah I currently have a 35/40 year old mountain bike , a higher quality but old m/b , seems I only ride it very local or only when I need it for transportation. I like that it’s still a bicycle. You can take it almost any where. They make trailer hitch carriers for them. 60-80 range. Sounds like some very cheap exploring , no spark arrester/silencer needed !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 03/01/24 at 04:47:34

I took my winter wheels with snow tires off the car yesterday - the weather forecast has no snow or ice in the foreseeable future.  This is the earliest I have ever taken them off - it is not unusual for us to get snow or ice storms in March.

Only time will tell if I was too anxious!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/01/24 at 07:28:45

We only got a bit of rain , but they got a crap load or two of snow. Some dumbas$ tv weatherman standing in snow beyond waist high. Blizzard like conditions , white out , lots of mountain passes impassable. What I call stay home conditions. If we don’t hear from Sneeze ,  I’ll dig him out in the spring , it’s only 3 weeks away. Couple more days of rain & Snowy blizzardy white out conditions , hang in there Sneeze !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/01/24 at 07:38:58

However I feel for our brothers in Texas wildfires. There is nothing you can do but get out of the way. You’re not going to win , get out ! See it here in CA every year.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/04/24 at 08:51:37

Scored a real nice front fender for the 250 project. From UK , not an oem fender but a Speedwell Mudguard painted black with the extra support rods. It got here so fast , I wasn’t expecting anything , it showed the day before and sat in the rain overnight. Box mangled , my stomach rolled over , even one corner of the box was gone. Cut it open and out comes a perfect fender. I had photographed the box for the sender. Couple of chips in the paint but otherwise it’s perfect with a rubber fender extender flap thingy. And it matches the fuel tank and the side covers. Looks so British. Trying to sneak in very subtle British bits to accent my build in a different way. The fender flap , maybe a heat sink for the exhaust at the cyl. head and some of those old style bar end turn signals , oh yeah. Keep it subtle don’t want to load it up with crap and make it obviously annoying. I have other builders watching this one , now is no time to half as$ anything.  Make no mistakes , stay focused , build it just like the vision in my head and no compromises ! A cold but dry day , good day to bomb the farmlands !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/04/24 at 10:23:18

Well today I get to play luthier. I have only one work bench , where I repair everything. Cover it in lush carpet for guitar repair. I have to finish 2 today. Then transform bench back for mock ups until I get wheels/tires. Gonna put frame/swingarm up on the bench. Add engine , intake & exhaust , tank  , seat , side covers. Plan on securing it to the bench to keep it stable. Primarily for mocking exhaust system . I have a new nos header , stock. And  441 muffler that needs surgery to meet my specs and mounting on frame to fab too. Also checking for clearances , mainly kick starter lever to clear the muffler. And other clearances as well , battery , horn , cdi and carb & air intake. I can wing the rest but exhaust has to be sorted out here and now. 8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/13/24 at 13:14:11

This is real nice , having frame up on workbench. Better than the table , at least till forks and wheels get put on. But for mocking up  it’s perfect. A lifetime of tools , welder & compressor right near bench. Only pressure I have is what I create as a goal , want to ride it by end of this year. Moving right along , in my element and as predicted, not real social part of the build. After it rolls I get much more social , maybe cause I can ride it down the driveway , IDK ! When it rolls , steers & stops I think that will be the half way done mark. Still haven’t settled on the tail light but up coming mock-up  will settle that conflict. Love both tail lights but only room for one on this fender , so unproductive having my last two brain cells arguing !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 03/13/24 at 16:25:42

Mine don’t argue so much, they just have difficulty coming to a consensus on things.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/14/24 at 21:41:52

I can’t even get them to find my keys !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/16/24 at 19:07:39

Tail light dilemma is over , my keys just appear , go figure. Wanted a Sparto style tail light , a cool reproduction but needs to be mounted higher on the fender than frame allows. It would leave lens angled down rather than straight back. Just won’t ever suit my build , so back to a small Lucas tail light , I have a new uk made Lucas lens. Somewhere I have an aluminum casting with light , old skool stuff , not to sure if it’s mie. So far almost everything is mie , trying to keep it close. My levers I think might be from India or China , that and maybe the bars. Just have to lay my hands on that tail light , buried bad in spider land !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/16/24 at 20:06:16

Keeping true to a 1971 I will be using the light grey for the frame. Stainless rear fender with small Lucas tail light. Stock seat , stock tank with black cross , black side covers. Stock headlight , black front fender. 18” hoops. Well that’s it in a nutshell , all the rest is the smaller detail items. No major changes now , just have to do one thing a day till it’s it’s done. Not a survivor , not a custom , not a restoration , just a Ruttly build. Put that new  tail light up in the warehouse with the rear sets,chains & filters , in stock!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/19/24 at 13:33:33

Finally got 2nd round of powder coating out , front & rear hubs and some smaller pieces. Hubs will go out for wheels when they come back. Frame & swingarm with all the attaching parts & dodads will soon follow. I would be a step ahead to have an assembled roller by June , leaving me six months for wiring and engine. Kinda jazzed up a bit , I’ll do a mock up tonight and start working on exhaust ! Was out yesterday for a short  clear the head ride. Tracker really likes that canned fuel , I added a quart to get to the gas station and top it off with 91. Runs like a pissed off hornet , still cool and damp in the am , she likes the combo.  Clean acceleration  no coughs , hiccups or farts , nothing but throttle , big fun makes me smile everytime out !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 03/19/24 at 19:15:23

Ruttly , we need pictures ! Please !!

Me for one would like to go visit 1971 , even if it is only in looking at pictures .  ;)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/21/24 at 11:09:06

Well now for sure I got to tear down reseal the engine , I was right in buying  gasket & seal kits for it before I even got the bike. Had engine back out of frame and laying on its right side on the bench overnight and it left a pool of  new 90 wt.  I guess the seals are harder than a brides dream ! I’ll drain it so it doesn’t become a problem . Right now I need engine as a whole for mock ups. After it’s a roller then it will be resealed. It’s like a time capsule for me to go back recheck my work from over 40 yrs ago. Tear it down slowly and be super observant of every little detail. It will be fun , my first post retirement engine build , very cool. Give me the opportunity to polish outer cases and clean the rest. This will give me some road worthy confidence. Just turned into full build , actually glad I’m going there !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 03/21/24 at 20:24:55

Well Ruttly

Your braver than I am.  

I've gone to buying new bikes with 3 year grantees.
And hope I don't need to open either of them up for nothing but valve clearance checks.
Maybe I'm getting lazy but I did wash them both today !   ;D

I'll try to remember to get an updated picture next sunny day we have that co-insides with them being clean.   Here the last one I bought before any modifications or add-ons .

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 03/21/24 at 20:28:40

Now its a light blue version of this with turn key hard 25L saddle bags and a 30L trunk.
That 80L of storage is nice when I come out of the grocery store .  ;)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/24/24 at 10:31:34

Someday I will make it to the RE dealership. Several models I would like to look at , maybe swing a leg over. Not shopping , unless something jumps out or fits me so perfect I have to take it home. Really it would have to be
“The Bike” before I would even consider buying a cookie cutter made for the masses run of the mill motorcycle or have a happy button !!! ;D ;D ;D
Im not putting anyone down for what they ride , important part is simply just ride something , a lot. My Sportster and my SR500 kinda both fall into that category. The SR500 has always been the best bike for me , size & weight , handling , styling and most important the fit , the bike made me feel in control ! Note we are not talking power , although it has all you need.
But the tracker has somewhat taken its role. So I tend to build not buy , but that could change with the right bike in a second ! While space might be an issue , price most likely won’t drive me away from the right bike. I really want to ride that BSA Goldstar , it would be my last new bike , if it ever gets here !!!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 03/24/24 at 18:15:20

I picked up a new motorcycle project today.  I really didn't need another project - but I got this from a neighbor and it is a bike that I believe I will like!  It was last licensed and ridden in 2015.

1972 BMW R75/5 with 60,000 miles.  I got saddlebags, the stock seat and a king/queen style seat - along with the Corbin single seat.  I also got a pair of original leather staddlebags that are in poor shape, along with a set of fiberglass saddlebags.

It needs a bath, the fuel tank and carbs cleaned, and the tires have plenty of tread but are 20 years old.  The original paint is pretty nice with only a few minor cosmetic flaws...the paint at the rear of the tank has been worn away by the seat rubbing on the tank.  The exhaust system has no rust - it does have a few small dents.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 03/24/24 at 19:25:55

Looks nice for a 50 year old bike !  :)

Wouldn't you love to have a new one like it !  ?    :) :)


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 03/25/24 at 05:34:34


081A081A17040B060D450 wrote:
Wouldn't you love to have a new one like it !  ?    :) :)


The bike being 52 years old has an advantage for me.  I can get vintage license plates and they don't expire or have to be renewed each year....and the yearly vehicle tax is very low.  Hopefully the insurance cost is low as well.

It appears the weather here is finally warming up and we are likely done with the overnight freezing temperatures.  I will be able to wash it this week - but any other work will have to wait until after the Texas trip.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 03/25/24 at 07:10:39

I want a Green one !

https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/bmw/bmw_r75-72.html

That is really close to the weight and HP of what I'm ridding now !   Simple , with Ample everything and good fuel millage , but not a lot of excess .    :)

A real Front fender !   8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by ThumperPaul on 03/25/24 at 07:11:45

Nice!  That should polish up like an old penny!  You NEED another project!

I'm bidding on this 2022 Royal Enfield Himalayan tomorrow.  Auction bike with salvage title.  I checked it out in person last week and the damage is the front end, but not the forks or triple tree, justs headlight, turn signals, instrumentation cluster, windscreen, mounts, etc.

We'll see if I can get it for the right price.  I've been wanting to play with and experience one of these bikes.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 03/25/24 at 07:45:12

Hay Paul

Even if the forks are a little bent , RE parts a cheep even New from India !   ;)

E bay is full of RE parts !  

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/25/24 at 08:06:31

See what spring does !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by ThumperPaul on 03/25/24 at 08:47:31

Hey MM.  I've already been shopping parts on ebay and found a few sellers that are cheaper than others for authentic RE stuff!

I've also been researching the weak points of these bikes.  The standard organic brake pads and weak master cylinder will be something I want to address (at least get some sintered pads up front).

And some company named TEC has a "stage 2" cam that claims a 20% HP gain without other mods or special ECU tuning required -- I find that a bit hard to believe, but they do share a dyno chart (is it legit??).

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by ThumperPaul on 03/25/24 at 08:48:04


684F4E4E56433A0 wrote:
See what spring does !


TRUE!!  It does something!!   8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/25/24 at 09:27:29

I have enough project bikes ! Whoops  , I said it. Seems whenever I say that someone dumps another in my front yard , like some recycling center. I pick it apart like monkey picking bugs off another monkey. Dispose of the crap , box anything to be reused and file it in the warehouse. It Spring , Ride season. I can ride the tracker all summer , build in the evening. Friend of mine says I should build the Sportster , I know another tracker. It’s a real solid maybe. All other projects must be dead done before attempting a big project like that. Having never been inside a v-twin , it will take focus to get thru it and a chunk $$$ too !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by ThumperPaul on 03/25/24 at 10:13:03


6C4B4A4A52473E0 wrote:
I have enough project bikes ! Whoops  , I said it. Seems whenever I say that someone dumps another in my front yard , like some recycling center. I pick it apart like monkey picking bugs off another monkey. Dispose of the crap , box anything to be reused and file it in the warehouse. It Spring , Ride season. I can ride the tracker all summer , build in the evening. Friend of mine says I should build the Sportster , I know another tracker. It’s a real solid maybe. All other projects must be dead done before attempting a big project like that. Having never been inside a v-twin , it will take focus to get thru it and a chunk $$$ too !


LOL  ;D :o

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by ohiomoto on 03/25/24 at 17:27:26

Everyone has the fever now!  

Look what you did Ruttly!!


Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 03/25/24 at 21:38:55

Hay Paul , did you get the winning bid ?

I've got one of those +20% cams in my 350 Meteor.   It really show's up in the upper end of the RPM range .    So I'm running the DNA air filter set-up , then through the +20% cam , then out the free flowing de-cat muffler.   The only thing left to do is put a bigger piston in it ... and there is a 410cc kit available but ... it's fine just like it is !   ;)  
This bike may be the very essences of Zen ?   Its just so easy , so much like a modern Savage with a 4 gal fuel tank  ;D  !   :)

As millions have discovered, the motorcycle is far more than technological fluff.  Tooling down the highway on a bike is nearly pure emotion, an elemental, bare-knuckled adrenaline rush. Like few other machines, the motorcycle can make you feel totally alive. The feelings evoked by the motorcycle are so vivid and so powerful, in fact, that it’s become a colossal icon of pop culture, symbolizing values associated with rebellion, power, seduction, high fashion, and escape. Pirsig was right on when he chose it as the embodiment of romantic fantasy.

From : Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance:
http://pages.erau.edu/~pratta/zenweb.htm

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by zevenenergie on 03/26/24 at 07:56:15

It seems like you're on the right path. (Aren't we all) I also enjoy the savage where I don't have to worry about whether a sensor works or not.

While driving, my body is the sensor and I enjoy every sensation and the pure joy that driving gives. I am a bit jealous of the beautiful landscape and roads through it that you have at your disposal to get to your zen.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/26/24 at 07:59:03


2621202624263D26490 wrote:
Everyone has the fever now!  

Look what you did Ruttly!!

Yup , but it’s a good kind of contagious.     8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/26/24 at 23:59:27

The hubs for the 250 just came back from powder coating. In Alien Silver , with a clear over it. It pops , at first glance they just look shiny , but put it out in the sun. Crazy cool , got to be different. Install new bearings and box them up and send them out for wheels. Was a slow start to the build but it is rapidly picking up momentum.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 03/27/24 at 04:26:45

So your are going for the “deceptively beautiful” look ? [ch129300]

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/27/24 at 08:06:18

More like “ Where’s Waldo “ , longer you look the more you see. Had a friend calls my tracker motorcycle porn , gives you that warm fuzzy feeling about my build. I don’t build for recognition, it’s a passion. I don’t build for anyone but me , what looks good to my eye. She is a diamond in the rough and I want to keep some of the rough.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/27/24 at 08:37:03

Basically it will look new but the body panels , tank , front fender , side covers will be original paint , the rough part of my new diamond. How ever I have a spare tank and side covers to do a retro oem paint job if I grow tired of the rough look.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/27/24 at 14:02:09

Just scored a 2nd engine for the 250 a complete engine (-) points cover and I have a few. It is a stuck engine , I didn’t win Powerball so I’m gambling on this one. One of the pics shows corrosion in intake port and I’m betting piston stuck to cyl. , I can double my $$ parting out the engine , maybe triple my money , making it right or have a spare or another build , maybe a
B25MX. Just kidding , no more projects !!!
The worst lies are the ones you tell yourself !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D ;D ;D :D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/27/24 at 17:19:52

Safe to say I have enough parts to build the first engine. Safe to say my UPS man hates my guts and the ground I walk on. Love it when he gets the handcart out and cusses at my useless decorative gate , hey I paid big for shipping and I get my money’s worth , not cheap but very amusing !   ;D ;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 03/27/24 at 18:49:27

Ruttly I'll have to cheer for ya for taking on such a task !

I went and bought two - new manufacture - "Retro Bikes" instead of getting an original to restore.  
So
At least your more ambitious than I am .
...............

I did do my own valve adjustment on the RE650 today , it took a whole two and a half hours , and 30 minutes on U-tube !   I had to watch two different ones just to be sure they agreed on what to do !     ;D

Two cylinders / 4 valves per cylinder , but getting to the Valve cover took most of the time.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/27/24 at 23:09:10

Yeah , This build was OOC from the get go and now has full head of steam , a clear vision of the project. I’m a freak , I live for this stuff. She will be a special bike. Sold my spare tool box and some other stuff too ! Every square foot matters , little by little , the shop gets better. Spring time , ,the air is heavy with honeysuckle and old smelly gear oil !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 03/28/24 at 04:22:55

Spring is a bit slow to arrive in KY....it was in the upper 40's and cloudy most of the day yesterday.  The sun didn't show up until late afternoon and bumped the temperature over 50 for a few hours.

I spent the morning washing the new bike, cleaning paint and chrome.  It cleaned up well for a bike that is 52 years old and has 63,000 miles on it.  The only non-original part on the bike is the seat - the rest of the bike is in amazing shape for a bike this old.  It is very respectable for being around so long!

After the Texas trip I will begin the work to get it running.  It needs a battery, the fuel tank cleaned up....and likely a carb cleaning.  I have never worked on BING carbs before.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/28/24 at 07:55:49

Wow she looks great ! It has stood the test of time and has wonderful vintage look ! But it looks so good it’s hard to tell it’s 50+ yrs old. It has a good home that’s for sure.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/28/24 at 12:06:24

It’s beautiful, cant stop lookin at it. Never owned a German m/c. Everyone should own a vintage bike to go with all their other bikes. I love vintage bikes , rolling history. Maybe a new his/hers seat and your ready for summer.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/28/24 at 12:37:01

Good job Dave ! Ready for The Concourse De Elegance ( with a stock seat )
She is gorgeous , a museum piece , RIDE IT  , she has many more miles to give. You will make friends at every stop , just like the Savage does. Pure unadulterated  Porn !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/29/24 at 09:48:46

That seat was stolen from a Norton , pretty sure anyways.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 03/29/24 at 12:39:12


604746465E4B320 wrote:
That seat was stolen from a Norton , pretty sure anyways.


The seat is a Corbin.  The mounting hardware fits the R75/5, and the bottom of the seat has been formed to fit the BMW frame.  The front hinge is missing - Corbin will not sell me a hinge and will only sell the complete mounting kit for $80....probably $100 by the time I pay taxes and shipping!  I believe I am going to copy the back hinge and make myself one!

I have the original stock seat that was modified, and a pair of saddlebags that came with the bike.  I will mount them and take a photo - both the seat and saddlebags scream "1970's"!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/29/24 at 16:20:24

Corbin makes sense , it was a custom Norton I saw with that seat. Even with the Corbin seat , it fits , era correct too! It’s so hard to find a survivor that is that original.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/30/24 at 10:22:46

Since I started the 250 project I keep bumping into my spare savage engine. And everytime I look at it I wonder if it would fit in the BSA frame. Wonder no more I saw a pic with a BSA with a Savage engine. Tried to capture the pic with no luck. Another possible project.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/30/24 at 10:50:46

Powder coated hubs are loaded with new bearings , still need to be boxed up & shipped out for wheels. A few small items to finish up then I have to concentrate on the exhaust & frame (fab work)  so it can get to powder coater too. Boxes of stuff ready for the roller. Forks , triple trees , carburetor   & big box with all new electrical items. Only a few things left to buy to complete assembly when time comes. This build nowhere near as complicated as the tracker , but still presents me with it own set of issues. Every piece , every nut & bolt , complete and still shooting for end of this year. I know I could finish her much faster , every piece , every nut & bolt , deserves some love. I’m confident love given now will be returned ten fold somewhere later in the project or somewhere down the road ! 8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 03/30/24 at 13:41:30


6D4A4B4B53463F0 wrote:
It’s so hard to find a survivor that is that original.


How is this for 70's funky?!

The stock seat was modified in a king/queen fashion.....and the saddlebags were decorated by somebody doing some kind of mushroom!
;D

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by LANCER on 03/30/24 at 19:39:21

That is a beautiful specimen Dave.  One of my son-in-laws inherited a ‘70’s model airhead from his dad, and it looked a lot like yours except it had a fairing.  Nice bikes. My daughter had an early ‘80’s K-75 I think, it’s the 3 cylinder inline triple, very smooth and plenty of power.  Both are very nice to ride.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by MMRanch on 03/30/24 at 20:29:10

Wow Dave , that's a very comfortable looking ride !

I've got a Black Seat cover like that one , and I'll never use it if you might need it ?    Still in the original box .    I got it for an old Gold Wing (1982) buddy but it was about 1.5 inches too short for his seat pan. :)

.............






Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/30/24 at 21:54:16

Time capsule for sure ! Love the artwork ! Is that the kick starter that t-handle behind the shifter ? I know many would slap a windshield on it , not me. Ride it just like that. It oozes vintage cool like a snail leaves a trail , think I can smell it ten states away. Vintage stuff always has an aire.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/31/24 at 07:56:38

Both my BSA’s have that smell too ! My favorite vintage smell is the smell of an old guitar shop. All those exotic woods , different finishes. My guitar room smells the same , if you open a case and leave it , I can smell the difference and sometimes I can tell you what guitar is out of the case without looking. I always stop at guitar shops to look , nah , to smell ! My other passion is working on guitars , absolutely no room for error , incredible amount of detail is required , unbelievably frustrating , down right scary at times. Over my head and so challenging, every build I say no more that’s the last one. Till I hear it and then hear it played by someone with real talent. It must be the challenge , never make a profit , can’t seem to give it up , more failure than success , but hones problem solving skills and resolve to see a project to the finish.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Dave on 03/31/24 at 09:00:23

That is not likely nostalgia you are smelling from the BMW.

More likely it is the gas that has been in the tank since 2015!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/31/24 at 17:56:59

Looks like 2nd hand pancake syrup !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 03/31/24 at 22:17:41

Excellent weed killer for the cracks in the pavement

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/01/24 at 11:11:51

My SR500 has real old fuel , gel , I don’t want to think about it. It’s been 20 yrs. It’s on the board hopefully soon , get it running , new tires , a buddy wants it and it’s time for it to move into the light of day. 40 over HC piston , cam ported head , Mikuni VM36 & a White Bros header with super trap. Might need jetted too. It will break the ton in a grand fashion. At least 107+ mph , whooping up on its bigger brother the tracker !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/04/24 at 08:35:20

My spare engine showed up today. Really good packaging ! 82+ lbs , I saw him pull up so I met him at the curb with my dolly. Well as suspected piston rusted to cyl. Intake & cylinder full of corrosion and rust. Other than that it’s very complete only points cover is missing. Super simple engines to build but for now it’s getting cylinder lubed and then bag it up. Spare parts if I need it , if not I’ll build it for a spare. Ooh , That Smell

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/04/24 at 10:24:57

Think I might be the owner of a wrecked BSA B50MX. Another clip from my childhood , the very first BSA I ever seen.  1974-75  all the low lands were being built on so we migrated to the hills to ride. A day I will never forget. We were riding the ridge behind San Francisco County Jail. The road up was paved , it lead up to an old radar station for targeting with Niki Missles , missle base was on the next ridge. Must have been 15-20 bikes , easy trails & monster hill climbs , people wot on the paved roads , then it happened a head on collision bikes & bodies flying , B50 MX vs Yamaha 250 , the faster heavier BSA won the impact. Folds the Yamaha frame , both bikes totaled. Don was on the BSA , Ralph on the Yamaha , both riders down Ralph’s leg broken , bones sticking thru his skin and clothing. No cel phones back then , 2 riders went for help. We all stayed with them till police and ambulances showed up then we were gone ! I was riding a Honda 90 that day. When my buddy asked if I wanted it , I asked him where it came from. When he said it was Don’s bike ,I  said I was there when it was wrecked 49 yrs ago.  Crazy $hit that now 2 bikes from the past have found their way home.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/04/24 at 11:02:58

I have yet to see what is left on the 500mx , see if anything is salvageable. Hopefully the frame is straight , have my doubts , it was an extremely violent crash. I’m just amazed it exists ! Yard art , wall hanger , project if it’s straight. I do not have room and I do not need another project however a 250MX would be a worthy build. Destiny that the 250 came home but I haven’t a clue why the 500mx. There is a reason why some things happen , so if offered I will give it a home and then wait to find out why it has come to my home. Cause there is a reason !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/05/24 at 06:31:45

Even my buddy liked my idea of a BSA B25MX project. If it comes to be it will be built on the cheap. No reckless spending. As a distant project on the cheap , gives me time to more efficiently gather what is needed. I’m sure it’s coming home with me , but no details have been worked out yet.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/07/24 at 08:49:57

So I got frame on the workbench , tank , seat , side covers , engine is bolted in. 2 header pipes , 3 mufflers and determined to not use stock muffler. Only combination that fits real good is oem stuff. So put all that away and start from scratch. BSA parts surfin as usual and found a NOS BSA C15 down swept chrome header. Even has tape on it from the sixties with Bob Chaves BSA/YAMAHA dealer from San JOSE , CA and phone number doesn’t have an area code. C15 is an earlier 250 , so it’s a gamble if it fits but it is the correct diameter. So much prefer a down swept pipe , all but my trials bike have down swept pipes. I’ll have to be very creative on this part , exhaust is huge part of the styling. Has to be clean , has to be era   correct or be so different you won’t be able to tell if its era correct. This will be a task but will also make it pop when done if it looks like the vision in my head. Intake will be easy , longer carb studs for finned carb spacer with a new WASSELL carb with aluminum velocity stack with a Uni foam air filter. Spacer & carb fit perfect while stack & filter will be shrouded behind side covers , no problems there lots of room , looks fantastic. I’ll be happy if exhaust looks as good as the intake. Using a 30 mm carb , up from a 28 mm. Head has been ported  so a better flowing exhaust & bigger carb should help the little thumper  get down the road with a bit more confidence. Fabrication & welding not my high points but I have no fear moving forward that this bike will be freakin Kool ! 8-)

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/08/24 at 11:10:09

Not doing so well , exhaust is taxing my imagination. Went from being a black kinda oem/vintage to totally new (nos) chrome header with a chrome muffler. Only reason I’m stressing is once exhaust is done and fitted then last round of powder coat can go out. By then wheels will be done. Yup , it’s getting closer to a roller ! I’ll finish intake side today. Stack of boxes that hold finished sub assemblies is growing. Just the thought of it being a roller gets my heart pounding. It’s very busy at the Spring Fever Garage !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/09/24 at 01:42:08

Intake is mostly done. Replaced stock studs with 2 1/2” studs trimmed to 2 5/16 , 1” thick aluminum finned carb spacer , new 30mm Wassel/Amal , 3” polished aluminum velocity stack & a 3 x 4 Uni foam filter. The set up is a bit long but it touches nothing and has good clearance. With the filter removed and at wot you can look thru it all and see the intake valve. One long straight shot right into the cylinder. The finned spacer is for a 26mm carb , so I got to hog the hole out just a bit to 30mm , then the intake side is  done. Back at the exhaust , have an idea for the baffle. It’s not gonna fab itself up for me !

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/09/24 at 10:34:23

I’m waiting to see how much welding will be needed. Building a support for a new gate and any fab work for exhaust. PIA getting welder out and set up so I try to cluster all the welding projects together. Saves a lot of time and cleanup time too. Wish I had a lathe , no , cause then I would want a mill too. No room for all that. I think I do just fine with what I have. It shouldn’t be too easy , your blood , creativity , sweat , failures  all add up to the sum of your labors and then you get to ride it , just doesn’t get any better than that. I don’t build for recognition , I simply want to ride what I build. No better appreciation than stepping back and gaulking at your own bike and no matter how hard you try to control it , here it comes that wave of pride crashes over your head and washes the build away , TIME TO RIDE !!!

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/11/24 at 11:45:23

Header pipe I bought is badas$ but will require some modification. My instinct was right to abandon stock setup completely. The down swept header pipe is so sexy over stock oem  , doesn’t block side view of engine. The half pint thumper has a wonderful shape to it and getting that oem header out of that picture does it wonders. While it doesn’t quite fit , it is the perfect bend super sexy just need it to go under the right foot peg lug on the frame. So I’ll cut this nos vintage header as a sacrifice , a show of dedication and resolve. Cut and add in a section , design a lower support , fab a baffle to fit inside muffler. Muffler will clamp on for easy replacement. Down swept pipe has a much straighter/easier bends for a less restrictive path. All it is , is a bent pipe , no flanges , so when my  prototype is done  I’ll have one bent to match  out of one section of pipe and then have it chromed !  A phototype to continue building  and eventually a custom one off  chrome header for a finished  bike. Way too much effort ?  Maybe  !  But it will be a defining part of this build.  Much of the build was to keep as much oem as possible ,  but here is where that ends. With a custom intake side and a ported head the exhaust side must perform as well. However it is my intention  to have a chrome exhaust with  real sexy bends that might be mistaken for a oem header. Cam is  the personality ,  it defines what your engine is capable of , so max rpm is set by it. Since  I’m not changing it , I only have carb & exhaust  to  gain throttle response.  Think I got it covered. Yeah when you start the build it’s all you but as it goes on it always begins to take on a life of its own. As if we’re bigger than you and now it’s telling you how to proceed. I may be hella sick but I’m in my element and recognize when  I’m no longer in control. Might be where I do my best work.
Stop thinking and mulling over it , let it tell me what’s next.

Title: Re: Spring Fever
Post by Ruttly on 04/11/24 at 16:12:41

As bad as I want to ride this bike , if it takes a year to get  the exhaust perfect it will be worth the wait. Seriously something wrong in my head. Just put a collar and a leash on me , let the build take me for walk. It’s leading me down the road to Perfection !

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