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Message started by MnSpring on 01/30/23 at 07:45:51

Title: Flipper's
Post by MnSpring on 01/30/23 at 07:45:51

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Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/30/23 at 08:09:09

Certainly not the Only horrible mistake by the ones who demand to be listened to.
Remember, those advertisements to join a class action lawsuit against the manufacturer of a FDA APPROVED drug happened because they failed to adequately test them and they approved what should not have been approved.
But the jabs are safe and Effective..

Not

Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by Serowbot on 01/30/23 at 09:06:23

Republicans are dying at near double the rate of Democrats from Covid...
Denial is powerful.

Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by zevenenergie on 01/30/23 at 10:00:05

I want to see the source. And I want to know who did the research.

Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/30/23 at 13:01:11


6B7D6A776F7A776C180 wrote:
Republicans are dying at near double the rate of Democrats from Covid...
Denial is powerful.



Gee,how could that be?
We all Know Trump has been pushing the jabs.
And, I have it on Good Authority that Trump supporters believe what Trump tells them what to believe and do what he says do. So, Republicans must be jabbed. Right?
Or, Maybe the idea that we actually think for ourselves is more true than what some people want to believe is more correct...

Why would it be different? The Jabs don't protect anyone from anything anyway.


Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by Serowbot on 01/30/23 at 13:49:24

Almost twice as many Republicans than Democrats died of Covid, study says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/republicans-died-double-democrats-covid-b2227425.html

Many more reports
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=Republicans+are+dying+at+near+double+the+rate+of+Democrats+from+Covid&atb=v320-1&ia=news


I've pointed this out before... you all just ignore it
Facts aren't real
Birds aren't real

Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by pg on 01/30/23 at 14:08:14

That really doesn't prove much...............

“The gap in excess death rates between Republicans and Democrats is concentrated in counties with low vaccination rates and only materializes after vaccines became widely available,” the study says.

Unless, they are maintaining more detailed records than I am aware of........

Best regards,

Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by Serowbot on 01/30/23 at 14:22:25

Birds aren't real

Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/30/23 at 17:02:37


5A4C5B465E4B465D290 wrote:
Almost twice as many Republicans than Democrats died of Covid, study says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/republicans-died-double-democrats-covid-b2227425.html

Many more reports
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=Republicans+are+dying+at+near+double+the+rate+of+Democrats+from+Covid&atb=v320-1&ia=news


I've pointed this out before... you all just ignore it
Facts aren't real
Birds aren't real


And you will not address My point.

I thought Republicans were mindless bots, following what Trump says.
Either that is true, or it's Not.
Which is it?

Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by zevenenergie on 01/31/23 at 01:44:49


6472657860757863170 wrote:
Almost twice as many Republicans than Democrats died of Covid, study says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/republicans-died-double-democrats-covid-b2227425.html

Many more reports
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=Republicans+are+dying+at+near+double+the+rate+of+Democrats+from+Covid&atb=v320-1&ia=news


I've pointed this out before... you all just ignore it
Facts aren't real
Birds aren't real


The first piece is by Graig Graziosi. Here it goes wrong, because his real name is Craig Graziosi and it seems strange to me that he cannot spell his own name.

Nearly twice as many Republicans died from Covid-19 than Democrats did, a new study has found.
New?

Excess Death Rates for Republicans and Democrats During the Covid-19 Pandemic, published by the National Bureau of Economic Research, used death records and voter registration records to determine the political breakdown of those who died during the pandemic.

#Now this is interesting because it uses dead records and by now we all know that they were not written down honestly during the covid period.

The initial takeaway is that nearly double the number of Republicans died than Democrats did during the pandemic, and the evidence suggests that vaccine adoption was a key contributing factor to those deaths.
#Takeaway does not sound very scientific to my ears

In the early stages of the pandemic, the “excess deaths” between Republicans and Democrats were largely in line. The first major spike appears to have occurred in the winter of 2020, during which time excess deaths between the parties were generally equal.
# what exactly does it say? It says nothing.

According to the US Center for Diesease Control and Prevention, “excess deaths are typically defined as the difference between the observed numbers of deaths in specific time periods and expected numbers of deaths in the same time periods.”
 # and again there is nothing concrete. That way I can also write a scientific piece. No correct name and no research results. Very easy to present the covid vaccine as a well-functioning vaccine in this way. These are just headlines that do not provide factual information.

Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by WebsterMark on 01/31/23 at 07:12:44


5345524F57424F54200 wrote:
Almost twice as many Republicans than Democrats died of Covid, study says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/republicans-died-double-democrats-covid-b2227425.html

Many more reports
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=Republicans+are+dying+at+near+double+the+rate+of+Democrats+from+Covid&atb=v320-1&ia=news


I've pointed this out before... you all just ignore it
Facts aren't real
Birds aren't real


Assuming that’s correct, demographics matter. Most older people generally vote Republican because as you grow up, you realize the lunacy of being a leftist liberal Democrat. And despite closing down grade schools, daycare centers, gymnasiums and arresting people for jogging outside or running on the beach, covid deaths are mostly found in the elderly and since they are disproportionately Republican, that’s not a surprise.

“ statistics are like lamp posts for drunks, they’re used for support, not illumination“

Here try this one. Most murderers and those who commit violent crimes are Democrats.

That’s an absolutely true statement.

Does it mean anything? Not really. It means about as much as saying Covid kills more Republicans.

Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by MnSpring on 01/31/23 at 07:14:15

How interesting,

Bot can say, (over and over):

“…Almost twice as many Republicans than Democrats died of Covid,…”

Yet Eegore says nothing about the, (cleverly word crafted),  flawed ‘data’ used to propagate that statement.

Wonder why that is ?


Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/31/23 at 08:31:55

Death Rates for Republicans and Democrats During the Covid-19 Pandemic, published by the National Bureau of Economic Research, used death records and voter registration records to determine the political breakdown of those who died during the pandemic.


Well, when democrats die, they don't fall off the voter registration rolls.



Maybe I should try hollering about how more Republicans are dying.
The fact checkers might get excited

Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by Serowbot on 01/31/23 at 08:51:26


455A5C5B4641704070485A561D2F0 wrote:
And you will not address My point.

I thought Republicans were mindless bots, following what Trump says.
Either that is true, or it's Not.
Which is it?

Let me address your point...

tRump tried to have it both ways.
He wanted credit for the vaccine,... but poo-pooed it at the same time.
He hid the fact he took the vaccine... he raved over any alternative.  He wanted to minimize the epidemic and keep people exposed because lockdown hurts the economy.
His supporters selectively took what they wanted from his conflicting positions.
It's the tRump way.

Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/31/23 at 09:16:17


6C7A6D70687D706B1F0 wrote:
[quote author=455A5C5B4641704070485A561D2F0 link=1675093551/0#8 date=1675126957]
And you will not address My point.

I thought Republicans were mindless bots, following what Trump says.
Either that is true, or it's Not.
Which is it?

Let me address your point...

tRump tried to have it both ways.
He wanted credit for the vaccine,... but poo-pooed it at the same time.
He hid the fact he took the vaccine... he raved over any alternative.  He wanted to minimize the epidemic and keep people exposed because lockdown hurts the economy.
His supporters selectively took what they wanted from his conflicting positions.
It's the tRump way.
[/quote]

No, you didn't. You just TDS babbled. Maybe read what I said?

But to try to help you out.

but poo-pooed it at the same time.??

Really? He's STILL pushing it..
I'm gonna need to SEE where he poo pooed it.

You Do Know that because no alternative treatments were not assaulted and destroyed, that is WHY the Emergency Authorization was possible. Any Alternative would have meant
No Jabs.


His supporters selectively took what they wanted from his conflicting positions.


You claim conflicting positions, but I don't Know what you are talking about.
In fact, I'm calling bullshit. I have not seen him talk down on the jabs,evah.

It was not Just the economy that suffered from the idiotic approach to the deadly virus.


If he Had Not made it easy for them to get the jab to market, every death would have been his fault.
Now, the jabs killing people. It's his fault. Right?



Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by Eegore on 01/31/23 at 19:20:39


covid deaths are mostly found in the elderly and since they are disproportionately Republican, that’s not a surprise.

 I still agree with this.  Also I would say that there is going to be a significant margin of error or missing data when trying to figure out mortality statistics based off individual preference since that's not a clinical diagnosis.

 

Title: Re: Flipper's
Post by Eegore on 01/31/23 at 19:21:22


Yet Eegore says nothing about the, (cleverly word crafted),  flawed ‘data’ used to propagate that statement.

Wonder why that is ?



 OK.

 GOT IT!

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