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Message started by Serowbot on 01/29/23 at 07:37:59

Title: Pelosi video
Post by Serowbot on 01/29/23 at 07:37:59

What no comments?
Now that we see the video, it's pretty much exactly what was expected.
Despicable rumours were just that.

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by pg on 01/29/23 at 13:16:54

Theie were plenty of reasons to be skeptical.  LEO having different stories about who opened the door, NBC suspending the reporter, and retracting story, all the tapes being withheld, so on.  

Best regards,

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/29/23 at 14:49:10

I don't understand why it was so hard to get the footage.
Pelosi standing there, protecting that drink more than himself was funny.
And someone smashing his way into that house, with a Hammer, triggers no alarm??
Seriously? The ice cream is valuable enough to justify an alarm

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by Eegore on 01/29/23 at 16:23:27


 People have an idea of how things "should" be, and when things don't happen within the parameters of what is "normal" or "should" happen then they can either think two things.  

 Maybe there are some extenuating circumstances they didn't think of from the safety of the couch in their home watching things on TV or online they never took part in.  

 Or there's some sinister actions going on.

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by pg on 01/29/23 at 17:27:43

People have an idea of how things "should" be


There is no reason to believe anything the media reports, and that includes both sides of isle.  There is little to no merit to what information is presented from our government.  I often use deductive reasoning to formulate plausible scenarios.  You often take every government publication as an undisputable fact, and that is your prerogative.   I don't believe that is very objective.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/29/23 at 18:22:30


4F6F6D65786F0A0 wrote:
 People have an idea of how things "should" be, and when things don't happen within the parameters of what is "normal" or "should" happen then they can either think two things.  

 Maybe there are some extenuating circumstances they didn't think of from the safety of the couch in their home watching things on TV or online they never took part in.  

 Or there's some sinister actions going on.


Why so critical of the people who suspected whatever we suspected
When We ALL KNOW the facts were readily available?



WTF is to be expected when the truth is obviously being hidden?

Why would anyone suspect anything that is not really bad?

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by Eegore on 01/29/23 at 18:57:54

"There is no reason to believe anything the media reports, and that includes both sides of isle.  There is little to no merit to what information is presented from our government.  I often use deductive reasoning to formulate plausible scenarios.  You often take every government publication as an undisputable fact, and that is your prerogative. "

 While I agree with with your assessments on media reports and merit on information presented from the government, I disagree that I have ever stated that any government publication is undisputable fact.  Multiple times on here I have been told I think my references from the "government" are true when none of them were from any government.  So basically people refuse to look at the references, then make up nonsense about them being government references.

 Again, let's take the CDC - I have never said to trust the CDC.  I have never said that.

 We have multiple posts that say the CDC "said" to classify humans dying "With" Covid as dying "From" Covid, and provided the CDC documentation as "proof".  I read the documentation for people and presented it here, and it does not say what is claimed.

 Now looking at words in a referenced CDC document and coming to a conclusion about what that referenced document says is not equal to believing ever single word that the CDC ever says.  But for some reason if a website lies to you about what the CDC puts in a document - the CDC lied.  Not the liar that lied to you.

 That does not mean the CDC is trustworthy, it only means you were lied to by someone other than the CDC.  This has yet to be accepted.  Still to this day not one human has ever been able to reference where the CDC said what was claimed here.

 Also when I am told a document is "lies" and then that exact same document word for word, number for number is referenced back to me as truth, this shows that facts aren't even relevant.  Only where information comes from is accepted, not what the information really says.

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by Eegore on 01/29/23 at 19:07:10

Why so critical of the people who suspected whatever we suspected
When We ALL KNOW the facts were readily available?


 I think it's ridiculous to claim opinion as fact with zero reference.


WTF is to be expected when the truth is obviously being hidden?

 Suspected, not obviously.


Why would anyone suspect anything that is not really bad?

 Why assume anything?  My point is people use all of the absolutely zero knowledge they have about a subject to fabricate an imaginary way things "should" happen.  Then they can either accept they don't have any information, skills, or knowledge of the subject and admit they have an uneducated and uninformed opinion that is speculation at best - or - start making claims something sinister is going on because the actions do not match what "should" happen.

 The Trump Russia accusations, I had no idea what actually happened at the time nor did I have personal experience or skills, so I don't go around claiming I know it's a cover-up.

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/29/23 at 19:28:35

WTF is to be expected when the truth is obviously being hidden?

Suspected, not obviously.

Really? Bullshit, information obviously existed.
A guy reported too much was fired.

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by Eegore on 01/30/23 at 03:49:25


Really? Bullshit, information obviously existed.
A guy reported too much was fired.


 While I agree, I wouldn't claim it as fact since I can provide zero evidence.

 I would say my opinion is speculative.

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by pg on 01/30/23 at 04:43:01

So basically people refuse to look at the references, then make up nonsense about them being government references.


Walensky lied, or made untrue statements with intent to deceive.  

Fauci outright lied.

The entire Russian hoax was based on a dossier started by the political opposition.  


I have little to no confidence in anything the gubmint has to say.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by Eegore on 01/30/23 at 05:51:49

Walensky lied, or made untrue statements with intent to deceive.  

Fauci outright lied.

The entire Russian hoax was based on a dossier started by the political opposition.  



 I agree.  None of that changes that people won't look at my references, them make up nonsense about my references being "government" information when they are not.  So when you sit here and say "You often take every government publication as an undisputable fact" maybe actually looking at my references would help clarify.  I have literally been told I used government information in posts where there was none.

 There is continual irrational false equivalencies here because people over-react or assume what information says without ever looking at it.  If I say a Facebook post is lying to you that does not mean I think the government never lies to you.

 I am only saying the lying Facebook post is a lie.  I mean how many times have people on here been upset about something that never even happened?  Why shouldn't we be critical of Twitter lies too?

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by Serowbot on 01/30/23 at 06:57:55

I think you sometimes have to trust the people with more information than you.
I see no nefarious advantage to them delaying the release of the video footage,... but there must have been reasons.
Perhaps prosecutorial or procedural.

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by Serowbot on 01/30/23 at 07:27:06


455A5C5B4641704070485A561D2F0 wrote:

Pelosi standing there, protecting that drink more than himself was funny.

I think he was hoping to use it as a weapon if DePape would turn his back.
Pelosi is no dummy.

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by MnSpring on 01/30/23 at 07:30:46


6D7B6C71697C716A1E0 wrote:
" ... Pelosi is no dummy.

How do you know that ?
Evidence shows he married Nancy.

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by WebsterMark on 01/30/23 at 12:53:28


6C7A6D70687D706B1F0 wrote:
[quote author=455A5C5B4641704070485A561D2F0 link=1675006679/0#2 date=1675032550]
Pelosi standing there, protecting that drink more than himself was funny.

I think he was hoping to use it as a weapon if DePape would turn his back.
Pelosi is no dummy.[/quote]

Agree, he’s no dummy. He’s managed to essentially  steal millions of dollars by timing stock purchases based on inside information from his wife. I mean sure he got the inside information but you still gotta be smart enough to put yourself in a position to steal all that money so I agree he’s no dummy.

I don’t remember speculating what the video would look like if and when it ever came out. I just figured the old guy’s gay and got into it with some weirdo he picked up online or something. After watching the video, I feel like he was just trying to string the guy along until he got to a point where he could positively get away from him. I mean, the cops were standing right in front of him, and he still got his head bashed in.

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by Serowbot on 01/31/23 at 06:58:31


7F4D4A5B5C4D5A65495A43280 wrote:
I don’t remember speculating what the video would look like if and when it ever came out. I just figured the old guy’s gay and got into it with some weirdo he picked up online or something.

...and that's not speculation?... ::)

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by WebsterMark on 01/31/23 at 07:04:33


7365726F77626F74000 wrote:
[quote author=7F4D4A5B5C4D5A65495A43280 link=1675006679/15#15 date=1675112008]
I don’t remember speculating what the video would look like if and when it ever came out. I just figured the old guy’s gay and got into it with some weirdo he picked up online or something.

...and that's not speculation?... ::)[/quote]

So you agree he’s a very clever inside trading thief.

I didn’t speculate on what the video would look like.

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/31/23 at 08:37:38

Okay, door opens.
Why do they say Pelosi opened it?
I don't See who turned the knob. But Pelosi has a drink in one hand and the hammer in the other. The only free hand I see is Depapes left.
The smart guy did not ask for help from the cops, or smash his drink on the guys fsace, or Do One Thing that would look smart.

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by WebsterMark on 01/31/23 at 09:57:46

I don’t know, I’ve not been in that exact spot, but I’ve been in some weird spots, and I’m not sure why I did what I did and a close analysis of it, if it was on film, could be taken as suspicious by someone looking for suspicion.

I’m sticking with my speculation. He’s gay and this is a former guy he hooked up with or talked with online and he was pissed off. But honestly, I don’t really care. I don’t think there’s anything deceptive here.

I’d much rather everyone was concerned how it is they got so filthy rich.!

Title: Re: Pelosi video
Post by zevenenergie on 01/31/23 at 11:34:05


What happend to Pelosi is beyond all Table,s and it stops for me whit the image I see when I conect to him in that moment.

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