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Message started by wheelbender6 on 01/25/23 at 12:49:14

Title: Signals that replace brake lights
Post by wheelbender6 on 01/25/23 at 12:49:14

has anybody tried those rear turn signals that also serve as brake lights? like the late model Sportsters).
Looks like a good way to eliminate the big brake light, but the wiring looks a bit intimidating. Example at the link.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224560221417?norover=1&mkevt=1&mkcid=4&mkrid=711-166599-462199-9&mpt=63d194161c9af246b2e6bcfaf3ffc42b&gdpr=0&gdpr_consent=&siteid=0&ipn=admain2&placement=572155

Title: Re: Signals that replace brake lights
Post by Ruttly on 01/25/23 at 16:16:50

Sportsters use a module for that. Can’t be that tough if you already have turn signals. Maybe some diodes you can make it happen.

Title: Re: Signals that replace brake lights
Post by Dave on 01/26/23 at 04:38:08

Those LED lights you linked will get you maimed or killed. The cheap LED lights they use are just not bright enough to be seen in daylight......they are even more invisible in direct sunlight. The small LED bulbs are not powerful or bright - it just doesn't matter how many of them you stack together in the lens - they just aren't brighter than daylight. The eBay photos make them look bright, and even in your dark garage they will appear OK - but when you get them out on the street they just aren't bright enough to be safe. You may be able to see them if you are looking directly at them - but the driver in the car that is being distracted by their cell phone really needs a bright light that will get their attention (something that has a DOT rating). Lights with filament bulbs are still much better than cheap LED's.....if you want a good LED that is bright it is going to be somewhat expensive.

I used a module to convert the turn signals on the Ninja Cafe' bike I built....the tail/brake light wasn't very bright and I wanted the turn signals to add more light. I have linked the module I used below, and it was a lot of wires to add into the mix.....if you are not good at following directions or reading wiring diagrams you will need help.
https://www.jpcycles.com/product/340-095/badlands-illuminator?srsltid=Ad5pg_GgJcZaX0Ae8SFf6uU1puhnsP5HVQR2Cg-0trsr9xCMqC4bWhlqpl0

Title: Re: Signals that replace brake lights
Post by Ruttly on 01/27/23 at 11:45:07

The module on my sporty was bout $100 keeping a stock style tail & turn signals , all still incandescent bulbs(ol skool) now turn signals also act as running & stop lights too. But law says if it acts as a brake light it has to be red not amber. So I got 1 tail , 2 running , 2 turn , 3 brake lights all with red lenses. Super simple install , plug it in , under seat as I recall. A good upgrade.

Title: Re: Signals that replace brake lights
Post by Dave on 01/28/23 at 04:30:40

1B3C3D3D2530490 wrote:

The module on my sporty was bout $100 keeping a stock style tail & turn signals...........Super simple install , plug it in

Definitely one of the benefits of owning a "popular" bike - you can buy aftermarket stuff that fits!

The Savage is not blessed in this way - there is very little aftermarket parts that are made specifically for the Savage. And it will only get worse now that the Savage is out of production.

Title: Re: Signals that replace brake lights
Post by Ruttly on 01/28/23 at 08:42:29

Well my point was how well that module actually works. Pretty sure I can achieve the same with some blocking diodes. Module on sporty does it with a single wire to the rear turn signals so it’s fluctuating voltage to the bulb. If turnsignals that have three wire hookup I can use block diodes and get same results and or eliminate tail light too. It took me several tries to get it right on the tracker. Thought I could do it with one diode but to make it proper I needed 4 diodes. Tracker has a dual tail light , so 2 tail & 2 brake & L & R signals all in the dual tail light. Was hard getting brake light to override turn signals kept at it. It works sweet ! I always keep diodes around for sorting out lighting issues. Bike looks very sleek from the rear due to lack of turn signals sticking out. It does have front turn signals , for now !

Title: Re: Signals that replace brake lights
Post by Ruttly on 01/28/23 at 08:58:01

It was important that the bike look clean and sleek from the back. A pleasantly appealing look for you to look at while you trying to find a way to pass. Don’t worry I’ll give you plenty of time to admire my tail light. ;D

Title: Re: Signals that replace brake lights
Post by ohiomoto on 01/28/23 at 15:33:22

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Title: Re: Signals that replace brake lights
Post by Ruttly on 01/28/23 at 16:34:06

But the Judge says , must have turn signals after 1974 , I’m good I was born in 61. :o

Title: Re: Signals that replace brake lights
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/28/23 at 17:14:49

I've given drivers who were not trusting the flashing light turn signal the hand signal only to see utter confusion on their faces. Not One has ever taken advantage of knowing what I was doing. .

Title: Re: Signals that replace brake lights
Post by verslagen1 on 01/28/23 at 18:24:05

Just swing the minigun in the direction you want to go. 8-)

Title: Re: Signals that replace brake lights
Post by TrevorKlein on 02/13/23 at 00:18:11

Though its give excellent back looks but still public reviews aren't much satisfactory as its dim light and poor functioning and so on. I pulled my hand back from them after getting some opinions.