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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 01/22/23 at 11:23:08

Title: I can't believe She is saying this
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/22/23 at 11:23:08

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/prominent-cnn-doctor-concedes-us-has-been-overcounting-covid-19-deaths


Title: Re: I can't believe She is saying this
Post by MnSpring on 01/22/23 at 12:32:54


687771766B6C5D6D5D65777B30020 wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/prominent-cnn-doctor-concedes-us-has-been-overcounting-covid-19-deaths

“But are these Americans dying from COVID or with COVID?”

“Two infectious-disease experts I spoke with believe that the number of deaths attributed to COVID is far greater than the actual number of people dying from COVID,” she wrote. “Robin Dretler, an attending physician at Emory Decatur Hospital and the former president of Georgia’s chapter of Infectious Diseases Society of America, estimates that at his hospital, 90 percent of patients diagnosed with COVID are actually in the hospital for some other illness.”

Some patients have several concurrent infections, not just COVID-19.

“People who have very low white blood cell counts from chemotherapy might be admitted because of bacterial pneumonia or foot gangrene,” Dretler was quoted as saying. “They may also have COVID, but COVID is not the main reason why they’re so sick.”


Title: Re: I can't believe She is saying this
Post by Eegore on 01/23/23 at 05:00:00


Notably, several Northern California counties in mid-2021 changed how they counted COVID-19 deaths. In one county, the death figure dropped by 22 percent, while in another, 400 fewer deaths were reported following the changes.

 Good idea.  Obviously this isn't actually happening since the CDC supposedly said to count deaths with Covid as deaths "From" Covid.  Right?


Title: Re: I can't believe She is saying this
Post by pg on 01/23/23 at 08:25:41

Why would we believe anything they say?  They lied about the funding of the labs, the lied about the origin of the virus, the lied about the efficacy of the vaccine, said you get or transmit the virus, now backtracking on the death count................

Best regards,

Title: Re: I can't believe She is saying this
Post by Serowbot on 01/23/23 at 09:30:35

They're so nefarious they don't know why they're nefering... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I can't believe She is saying this
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/23/23 at 10:27:54


5345524F57424F54200 wrote:
They're so nefarious they don't know why they're nefering... ;D ;D ;D



Is that all you need to do to pretend everything is okay?

Title: Re: I can't believe She is saying this
Post by Eegore on 01/23/23 at 13:59:43

Quote Why would we believe anything they say?  They lied about the funding of the labs, the lied about the origin of the virus, the lied about the efficacy of the vaccine, said you get or transmit the virus, now backtracking on the death count................



Claiming a document says something it does not actually say because the CDC lied about things doesn't change the content of that document.

 I'm not saying to believe everything they say.  I'm saying that no part of the released coding guidance says to classify people dying "with" Covid as dying "From" Covid.  I posted it here in full, repeatedly, and still nobody can point out where it says to do that.

 The CDC never said to do that, or by now somebody would be able to reference some sort of record of it.  Instead the "proof" is information people post but won't read, then when somebody reads it for them, they choose to ignore their "proof" literally says it didn't use the CDC coding to get the numbers.

 We were lied to about how the provisional coding works, but not by the CDC.  We were lied to about what the CDC really said to do.  This is ignored because the CDC lies too.  Why would you choose to ignore lies and act if they are true if they come from sources other than the CDC?

 If a YouTube video lies to me about what a CDC document says, I don't act like it's truth because the CDC lies too.  I would acknowledge the YouTube video is also lying.

Title: Re: I can't believe She is saying this
Post by pg on 01/23/23 at 15:27:29

Why would anyone believe what they would have to say?

Best regards,

Title: Re: I can't believe She is saying this
Post by Eegore on 01/23/23 at 16:00:57

Why would anyone believe what they would have to say?

 Because there is a difference between looking at a document and "believing" other things that are "said" about what is written on that document.  Believing what a document has on it in the form of words when you read it is not equal to saying the author of the document is always completely honest.

We were lied to about what a document has, written on it.  The black and white words on the document.

 You believe the liar that told you something different than what the document has on it.  That does not make the document false, it makes the person lying to you about what the document says a liar.

 Again, by refusing to actual look at, or "observe" the actual document the liars used as reference, people can keep claiming the document says something it does not say.  Arguing with people that read it for you.

 Don't you get that your desire to say the CDC always lies means other people can get you to believe anything as long as they say "the CDC said..."  then just make up sh!t the CDC never said?  Just because the CDC isn't always honest doesn't mean all other sources now become true, other people lie too.

Title: Re: I can't believe She is saying this
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/23/23 at 20:40:25

People who can't see the obvious? No, I don't believe squat. Lefties run the biggest failures,and want to drive policy for the world.
They pretend that gun crime in Texas proves our ways are wrong headed.
We didn't say guns STOPPED people from using guns.
YOU SAID making them Illegal was the answer.

Well, HOWIZZIT WORKING OUT??

Shooters Get Shot pretty often around places where the People carry.


Still believe that global warming crap?

Reee!!

You will eat bugs, they say.


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