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Title: Visited the RE Dealer Post by MMRanch on 07/27/21 at 22:07:21 I took a day off today and rode a 200 mile loop that included two bike shops that google thought were RE dealers. One of them is a RE dealer. Decatur Al. So here is an interesting item I learned today . : The new one called the " METEOR 350 " is claiming 101.25 mpg. also Top Speed is rated for 4th gear not 5th gear @ 71mph (HP Rated @ 6.1k) , Seems kind of odd ? NO , I don't think I could live with 71 mph top speed . I had the day , and needed a ride ! It sits a lot like a Savage , and is the same size too. The World hasn't forgot the LS650 , its just been changed a little ! ;) https://royalenfieldna.com/meteor350/ |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Dave on 07/28/21 at 03:55:43 Finally - somebody that knows how to gear a motorcycle for comfortable cruising (although I am not sure a 350cc bike has enough power to warrant that kind of gearing) ! Fifth gear is for cruising along economically while you are trying to achieve that claimed 101.25 mpg, the engine just doesn't have enough grunt to push the wind out of the way when you are trying to reach terminal velocity. Cars have had this kind of "overdrive" for years......high gear is designed for comfortable and efficient cruising (not top speed). That Royal Enfield 350 would be a great bike if you lived in an urban area and needed a motorcycle for commuting - that is what it was designed for. In the countries where it sells they are not riding on interstate highways - they are riding on city streets. The countries that buy the most motorcycles don't buy big motorcycles - they use small bikes to commute everyday. When Royal Enfield made the previous 350 and 500cc Bullet models - they sold 10 times as many 350cc bikes. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-that-ride-motorbikes.html http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1618399734/7 That is why the big Japanese companies don't make a big single cylinder street bike.....there just isn't a big enough market to sell enough of them to warrant designing and building them. Same thing happens for a mid sized (500 - 900cc) sport touring bike - they just don't sell in big enough numbers. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Dave on 08/05/21 at 04:57:52 Mike: The local fellow who owns the Himalayan just traded it and a Stelvio in for a new V85. His Royal Enfield Himalayan will likely be available at a good used price. Moto Guzzi was offering a $750 discount if you traded in a 400cc or smaller motorcycle in on a new bike. He traded in 2 bikes and got one that was smaller/lighter than his Stelvio. I am checking to see for sure where he traded......you could come up here and take a test ride! |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by MMRanch on 08/05/21 at 09:06:08 I am checking to see for sure where he traded......you could come up here and take a test ride! I'd like to ride one if I buy one or not ! :) One of my Sons from being Scout Master is looking for a bike and he is favoring the idea of getting a Himalayan . I wouldn't care if I lost a few $$$ on one to help him get a start on having a bike. Matter of fact , I bought a new 100cc China dirt bike when Anders was 8 or 9 but Anders took a liking to the little 4 wheeler we had so we gave his buddy the little dirt bike. Yea , they have ridden all over this place and would tell me about places on it that I've not even seen yet ! ;D Hay Dave , ask you buddy how much trade-in he got for it ? :-? I think that little 1/2 bird's beak front finder would have to "GO" first thing ! :-[ |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Dave on 08/05/21 at 14:00:26 MM: I will send you a PM with some of the particulars. The bike has 2,000 mile on it, it has about $1,500 worth of farkles that include hard aluminum bags. The owner said the bike is in like new condition. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Dave on 08/06/21 at 04:45:26 https://cadrecycle.com/2018-royal-enfield-himalayan-w-2k-miles-4250/ |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Ruttly on 08/06/21 at 12:03:33 Looks like a deal as is , but I would work them a little more on the price. Just for fun ! |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by MMRanch on 08/06/21 at 12:44:10 OK guys , Before I offer the W-650 to a stranger let me ask you fellers . I'm thinking $3500 , is about right for a good running , nice looking W-650 w/less than 20k miles on it ... all the original equipment goes with it too. A 650 twin with factory kick-starter/electric and center stand. 8-) After removing the air box to get to the Carbs then I wasn't about to put it back on when those easy breathers off ebay are so easy. Everything I've modified can be un-done back to original. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by zipidachimp on 08/07/21 at 00:29:45 Geez.... you guys must live in nirvana. $3500 for a W650 wouldn't last 5 minutes on C-list up here, and I would be first in line! The price difference between the Meteor and the RE650 up here is $1500...2000. Some dealers play games with the 650, prices up and down like a toilet seat. Saw a new '20 MG V7 for $6995, out of my league. The '21 V7 850 puts it square in the high cost insurance bracket. Cheers! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Dave on 08/14/21 at 04:16:42 Yesterday I was a few miles away from Cadre, and on the way home I stopped and looked at the Himalayan. It is in "Like New" condition and has a lot of extras added. It had Givi lower crash bars, an aluminum guard on both the left side oil cooler and the rear brake cylinder reservoir, it had a headlight guard, an aftermarket muffler and aluminum luggage. The original owner told me he spent about $1,500 on the extra stuff. I sat on the bike and the seat is low enough I could flat foot with both feet while in the saddle - however getting on the bike was a bit clumsy. The rear seat is slightly higher than the front, and combined with the the rear bags it makes swinging a leg over difficult. I think this might be a bike where you need to put your foot on the left peg and stand up, then swing your leg over.....I did not try that as the bike was parked between other used bikes and I didn't want to get too adventurous. It has a rear seat and passenger footpegs - I don't know if it would be comfortable for a passenger. I noticed the rear rim had a little bit of a funny shape in one spot - I don' think it was damaged or bent.....I just think it might have been built that way and could be an example of Royal Enfield build quality. I did not ride the bike as there was in impending rain storm.....and within 30 seconds of leaving the rain started and both me and my little Savage got drenched! |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by ohiomoto on 08/14/21 at 13:51:09 Honestly... 1) I wish I was in a position to take that W650, but my wife and I sold our house, and are in the middle of move that will have us in apartment for the next 4 or more months. Having the two extra project bikes in the garage isn't helping. 2) As much as I love the RE 650 twins, I would not buy a Himalayan for anything more than an occasional dirt road. I would buy a used Honda or KTM or something with some true dirt heritage. 3) I think most of these "Adventure" bikes are no different than the Mall Crawler Range Rovers, Jeeps, and SUVs. They appeal to some desire that most people will never actually scratch. If you're not going camping or fishing in some inaccessible spots then you don't need it. 4) But if you just think it's cool, then more power to you! haha |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by MMRanch on 08/14/21 at 14:30:23 I've got a local collector guy who is delivering his Honda-305 Dream to some feller in Pennsylvania this weekend who wants to come next week and make a deal on the Kate. If he shows up then I've got it sold for $3500. He let me know his brother has one and his dad (86) did have one for years , so he's been wanting one too ! I did find out the saddlebag mounts are only $99 on ebay , but I really doin't need bags ... I do like a 30L trunk to put gear into. I've got the Guzzi with 120L of luggage room if I need to go grocery shopping . ;D OhioMoto Your right about not needing a full bore dirt bike. I wouldn't take my Savage across the fields or into the woods on our place , but I would take a Himalayan if I had one. We've got 160 acres and cows , and the ATV isn't fun to ride much. Really a Himalayan and the Guzzi V7II would about put the Savage into retirement, but I know I'll be OLD one day and want the Savage over the Guzzi , so I need to keep it. I've even had the thought that the 350 RE has a skid plate and would suit my needs just as well and look better doing it with tubeless tires too. The RE350 might be a better "OLD MAN" bike than the Himalayan ? ! :-? I'm over an hour's ride to even get to the interstate . We'll see if the local bike collector even shows up ? ::) I'm glad I have choices ! :) |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Dave on 08/15/21 at 04:18:33 I agree that a lot of the "Adventure" bikes are too big and heavy to be ridden hard in the dirt for us mere mortals - they are however very good touring bikes that can be ridden on unimproved or crappy roads by most folks. And it is also likely that a large number of them never get off the pavement. They all tend to be a bit tall in the saddle for me - part of the side affect of having good ground clearance. There are however some folks who can ride these heavy Monsters well in the dirt. The first video doesn't look like fun to me - it looks like a lot of hard work and a lot of heavy lifting.....why in the world would you want to pay so much money to drop a motorcycle in the mud? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPG7L9i_9mc [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPG7L9i_9mc[/media] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYp1zXyc0fA&t=14s [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYp1zXyc0fA&t=14s[/media] When MM, Stew and I are down in Suches, the majority of the folks doing the dual sport rides trailer in and are on 250cc motorcycles. They have enough power to do the fun stuff and are lightweight. There are a whole bunch of dirt and Forest Roads that are likely a lot of fun with the proper bike to explore them with. For true dual spot adventures that include packing gear and include highway miles - the KLR650, DR650, V-Strom 650 and similar large dual sport bikes are used as they have more power for the highway work. The seat height is a bit tall for me on most of these bikes. For some reason the mid sized 400cc dual sport market just seems to be a bit weak.....not sure why. I would think it would be a good compromise and the bike could do highway work well, and it would not be horribly heavy. I think the Royal Enfield Himalayan is a very capable dual sport bike. Several folks have documented their travels on them, and they seem to be able to handle rough stuff well. The highway speeds are not impressive and my friend that owned one said 60 mph was comfortable but higher speeds were not. I think the 350 Meteor would not be great off road - low ground clearance, soft suspension and slippery tires are going to limit what it can do off the pavement. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by MMRanch on 08/15/21 at 15:00:24 Hay Dave That first video make me think of "Dudley"(from WildHogs) gets a dirtbike ! ;D Why would anybody want such a monster machine to go off road with ??? ::) Suzuki VanVan would make that ride look easy I have no need for anything like those fellers are doing. At least one of those guys had no concept of "momentum being EVERTHING" when loose traction is encountered . |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Dave on 08/16/21 at 09:30:12 I think a 250cc dual sport would be a far better bike than the VanVan or Yamaha TW200. Those fat chunky tires are really more of a novelty than they are a solution for any shortcoming from a good dual sport bike. I need to look around and find a good test ride or comparison of the little chunky tire bikes. If they were really a great bike - why are there so few of them around? I have never seen one anywhere but on the showroom at the dealer. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Ruttly on 08/16/21 at 13:00:48 They are nothing but a fun bike , they do nothing well , they are slow , don’t handle nor do they stop fast. But they are hella fun to ride , a good camping bike or a bike for up at the cabin , farm/ranch bike etc. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by MMRanch on 08/16/21 at 13:13:50 Does anybody know about those China dual sport 250 ? I had a 200cc China dualsport , well it vibrated a lot . I had a 250cc ATV that had a really nice motor. Not to much HP , bur was very smooth and still enough HP. The one called "Hawk" is the one I've seen on line. I believe I'd rather have a Suzuki DR200 or maybe the Yamaha version of the same. The Suzuki or the Yamaha either one would be lighter but thie RE motor is 411cc , with a real seat on it. :) The RE Himalayan might be the better bike. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by MMRanch on 08/19/21 at 20:47:48 Well guys , It ain't looking good for me getting a Himalayan . The 80 acres next door is up for sale and it looks like we'll be closing on it with-in a couple of weeks or so ! Yea ! and Oh-no ! at the same time ! It may be a while before I'm buying anything else ? Its a powerful amount of $$$ . At the minimum , I'll have to wait till the dust settles a bit and a few land payments get behind us. We might have to get a logger to help us pay it off ? :-? I've been ridding the S-40 a lot lately . I cleaned up the "W" for the local collector to inspect , and been leaving it clean all week. The guy seems to have lost interest so , I went over to his house to see if he was super busy or just lost interest . When I got there I saw the problem ... he has got a 1952 BSA WWII looking model he's working on. I couldn't help but be marveled at the sight of it , so he pulled a tarp off one of his other bikes in the shop to show me the 1943 model he just finished , it looks new ! 8-) So , he did loose interest and I understand why. Well , I've been ridding the S-40 all week and its REALLY a GREAT BIKE. Having an accurate speedometer has shone me that I used to ride much faster than the law allows ! :-[ I'm even getting almost 60 mpg ! Next time I change oil I'm putting some of the thinner stuff in to see if it makes a difference ? Maybe - 10w30 T6 . I even had the thought of taking the S-40 to our Arkansas trip this year but I'll have to get Marcia on the back of it for day ride to see how it works out for her. That new muffler has had a positive effect on how the bike runs. Yea , power is not an issue , but seat room might be ? Anybody ever put one of those CORBIN SEATS on a Savage ? :-? Basically the Gold Star goes to War ... I think ? |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Dave on 08/20/21 at 09:02:59 The BSA W20 and the Gold Star don't have a lot in common - other than 2 wheels, 1 handlebar, 1 cylinder. The W20 was a 500cc side valve, hard tail bike made to be low HP but incredibly tough and reliable for military service. The Gold Star was an overhead valve single that was made for performance. Either one of them would be fun to own and ride! I looked up the specs on the Royal Enfield Meteor 350 - and although it is likely a fun bike.......I am not sure it would satisfy most of us - it has 18 -20 HP and weighs 380 pounds and a road test squeezed out no more than 75mph. The road tests I have read like the bike and they believe the bike is a lot of fun - they all were riding the bikes on rural country roads where the bike most likely fits right in......it likely would do well on city streets as well. Bump the engine up to 450 or 500 and I think it would be a better bike for the USA. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Dave on 08/21/21 at 18:42:04 I was on a ride today and near Portsmouth, OH a fellow on a Himalaya stopped and we chatted. He loves his Himalaya and said it handles back roads well and doesn't care if they are asphalt or dirt! He did say that it is a bit different than a "pure" dirt bike - he felt there was a lot more weight on the front wheel than on the dirt bikes he has owned. He said that on gravel roads he gets a lot more rear wheel spin on the Himalyan than on the dirt bikes. (I wonder if it is just the fact that he likely has never ridden a 400 pound dirt bike, and the seat and bags on the Himalayan don't really allow him to shift his weight rearward like he could on a dirt bike). MM: Maybe you can get the owner of that farm to throw in a Himalyan as part of the deal! Marcia can't get mad at you if the bike came with the land purchase! |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by MMRanch on 08/22/21 at 16:05:27 Well I could just go buy it anytime , but not sure that would be the responsible thing to do. I mean , all three of my bike parking places are full ! ;) As much as I'd like to have a half dirt bike now , I can wait a bit then buy a new one. I think they have a three year bumper to bumper on them ??? :-? My Savage is running really good right now , better than it has in a while ! The idea of opening the exhaust up has made a new machine out of it. I did put a DB Killer at the exit to kill some DB's - there were just a few to many getting out ! ;D We need to do a Dragon Run before the summer gets away from us to try it out proper ! Safely ya'll understand ! 8-) .............. OK , on to other MORE SERIOUS things ! I was reading about the high millage LS650 earlyer in the week and I got flaged as a intruder and banded . At home I can't go to my favorite site ! :( I'm at the library now ! ::) Somebody please take this leach off ! :-[ Help me John ! ??? and I'll make ya a dinner donation . No tumbler needed . :) |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Oldfeller--FSO on 08/23/21 at 02:36:11 AT THE LIBRARY the SuzukiSavage site is likely being seen as "not secure" to the current MS standards. At home you should have no issues, but if you do POST A THREAD as a simple visitor and tell us what is going on WITH DETAILS. The library visit likely got you booted as an undesirable, a hacker/intruder. Both Justin and I got caught out years ago in a similar fashion, we just cranked up new ID's and went with it until Amazing John got back from wherever he went. Then he fixed our old access and made our old passwords work again. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by oldNslow on 08/23/21 at 07:23:34 Quote:
On my Win10 desktop I get a warning that Suzuki Savage is "not secure" up on the info bar on the top of the page. I've just been ignoring it for a couple of months. So far no problems. My old 32 bit Dell running Mint Mate 16 doesn't care - I'm typing this on it right now. Neither does my little android tablet. There is an RE dealer about an hours ride from me. I've been watching his website and he finally has some bikes in stock. A bunch of Himalayas, a couple 650s, and hes's taking pre-orders for the Meteors. He hasn't had any new inventory at all until just a week or so ago. I'll be taking a ride out there soon. I'd like to see, and possibly ride, a Himalaya. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Dave on 08/23/21 at 09:18:18 MM got booted out on his home computer. Now the forum will not allow him to go to the forum page from his house. He can open the HOME page - bit cannot get to the forum. The same things happened to me at the office a few years ago - I can no longer access the www.suzukisavage.com using my office server. I was attempting to post a photo the same way I have always done = but for some reason I got blocked and remain blocked to this day. If I want to access the forum from work, I have to sign off of the office server and use the guest server. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Tocsik on 08/23/21 at 09:26:02 My browser show "Not secure" also for this site. Does everyone have the popup ads at least once per session now, too? |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Dave on 08/24/21 at 03:35:26 This is the message I get when I try to log on at work: |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by ohiomoto on 08/25/21 at 15:40:13 447F7265747863657E767B64170 wrote:
----- Same thing happened to me at my office a while back. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1451676907 |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by jcstokes on 08/25/21 at 15:58:50 On Linux, I get "not secure" on lots of sites as well as this one, so far no one has hacked my bank account, which is about all that matters. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by ohiomoto on 08/25/21 at 18:02:11 This isn't an issue of the site not being secure. The issue is the site is blocking traffic from IP addresses it thinks are not secure. I can't access the site from any machine on the network at my office. Linux, Mac, Windows, Android...all blocked. I can take my phone off or the network and it works fine. Put my MacBook on my phone's wifi hotspot and it works fine. I posted some information about this in the link in my reply above. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by youzguyz on 09/05/21 at 00:31:20 Took a test ride last week. First time ever.. Not on THIS bike, but one just like it that was too close to the window for a good picture. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by MMRanch on 09/06/21 at 17:26:53 WOW ! That looks like a LOT of BIKE !!! |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by youzguyz on 09/07/21 at 01:15:15 2F3D2F3D30232C212A620 wrote:
I was looking for something that wouldn't make me look so fat.. Ended up making me look like a fat gnome.. :-[ I could put my feet down almost flat, which was a surprise. Very interesting motorcycle. There are two FACTORY places to mount the control pegs. The ones in the picture are in the forward position and can be moved to one of 3 positions (forward/backward) over a range of about 2 inches. The mid position puts the peg just about below the rear cylinder. Those have two different sets of mounting holes, vertical difference about 1/2 inch. ABS Traction Control Highly adjustable shocks, front and rear. Shaft drive Windscreen is useless. Grips way too small. Oh.. and the engine. 2458cc .. |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by verslagen1 on 09/07/21 at 09:50:23 yeah, I bet it's a real chick magnet. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by ohiomoto on 09/07/21 at 14:11:35 6D7E6968777A7C7E752A1B0 wrote:
It's 99% the rider unless you are getting paid big money to win races. Even then, it's not the bike they are interested in. ;) My wife would probably tell you that my interest in motorcycles was the least attractive part of me. haha |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by youzguyz on 09/08/21 at 08:24:33 2B382F2E313C3A38336C5D0 wrote:
Until I got on it... :( Sure was fun to ride though!! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Dave on 09/08/21 at 18:03:41 485E444B5644484B310 wrote:
There are an awful lot of bikes that I believe would be fun to ride - but I don't want to own! A fellow needs to leave a bit of space in the garage and some money in his wallet for the "keeper" that can come along at any moment! https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/mcy/d/newport-1969-triumph-motorcycle-trophy/7376513724.html https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/mcy/d/south-lebanon-honda-cb750-k4/7372481701.html https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/mcy/d/florence-1983-honda-passport-70-in/7377547924.html |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by MMRanch on 09/10/21 at 15:01:38 wow ! 2500cc :o you would get great fuel mileage with that ;D .............. I'm at the library again , still ain't got the "FORBIDDEN" done away with yet . I'm having thoughts about which bike to bring. The Savage is running REALLY GOOD Kate is getting the New rear tire when I get home today And the Guzzi is always ready. I kinda want to bring the Savage this time , ridding double or not. I"ll get Marcia to take a ride with me on it next week and ask her how she feels about it when we get back home ? |
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Title: Re: Visited the RE Dealer Post by Ruttly on 09/10/21 at 17:41:35 Tow the boat around with that ! |
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