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Message started by eau de sauvage on 03/31/21 at 18:16:36

Title: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/31/21 at 18:16:36

Is this the same Matt Gaetz who was whipping up a frenzy about Hunter Biden? Federal child sex trafficking charges brought by Bill Barr's (at the time) DoJ is a pretty big deal. Gaetz is alleging he's being targeted because he's an outspoken conservative. Er but why would that bother Barr's DoJ.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/31/21 at 19:23:38

Lefties,,, believing bullshit.
You probably believe Republicans have passed a law prohibiting people from being given water..

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Eegore on 03/31/21 at 20:16:50

"Lefties,,, believing bullshit."


 I wonder if they believe solar and wind power caused the mass power outages in TX and millions of meter readings were wrong and thousands of actual power/oil/natural gas employees are lying, because a politician said so, and then walked back that statement.

  Or that the CDC overcounted mortality rates by 1600% while citing a private non-Government study that doesn't actually say that at all.

 Or that a court case regarding post-military service judicial proceedings is actually about the Government's inability to enforce quarantine.

 

 


Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/01/21 at 05:39:20

Because of failures that were from solar and wind, they had to shut down supplies to protect them.
Now I'm not sure you know enough to understand, but YES, the bullshit green power played a role that you apparently don't understand. The lack of power wasn't from failure of solar and wind, it was shut off, because the load was excessive in other parts
On the places still producing..
The nuke plant did shut down because of cooling ,
You think I'm stupid I guess, I've spent time on this.
There is a good YouTube on it.
It's complex, it's exactly what I thought it was, because I've been paying attention to black outs and what must be done to protect the grid. They dodged a complete grid collapse by under five minutes. And a restart from there could take weeks

And any part of the supply grid that causes excessive burden on other parts

Is dumb.


Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Eegore on 04/01/21 at 07:29:44

"Because of failures that were from solar and wind, they had to shut down supplies to protect them.
Now I'm not sure you know enough to understand, but YES, the bullshit green power played a role that you apparently don't understand. The lack of power wasn't from failure of solar and wind, it was shut off, because the load was excessive in other parts
"

 Again I ask: what about the parts of the grid that were shut down that have zero input from "green energy"?   How was NG extraction reduced at the margin it was because of wind and solar?  Why is NG now asking for solar to be put in?

 Bottom line is if more traditional power was in place of the wind and solar - it still would have shut down because of the weather.

 Your claim was that the power outages were due to green energy, not "part of" but that green energy was the cause.  The math does not add up according to everyone but one politician that later back-tracked the statement, and you.
 

 

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Serowbot on 04/01/21 at 09:35:44

Matt seems to have finger pointing dyslexia   ;D

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/02/21 at 18:43:42

How are we discussing solar energy in a matt gaetz sex trafficking thread? Oh right JoG came in to derail the thread. What a surprise.

Back on topic though, the situation seems to be getting pretty bad pretty fast for the soon to be former congressman.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by verslagen1 on 04/02/21 at 20:47:35


22302427303634510 wrote:
How are we discussing solar energy in a matt gaetz sex trafficking thread? Oh right JoG came in to derail the thread. What a surprise.


the proof is documented in your own thread yet you let your own bias cloud your judgement.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Eegore on 04/03/21 at 09:08:44


 JoG is right, I brought in the other topics.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by MnSpring on 04/03/21 at 09:52:41


3C2E3A392E282A4F0 wrote:
How are we discussing solar energy in a matt gaetz sex trafficking thread? Oh right JoG came in to derail the thread. What a surprise. ...



Interesting, No comment on someone else’s comments of.
“…CDC  overcounted mortality rates…”
“… Government’s ability to inforce quarantine …”

Can you explain why a, ‘subject’,
who lives in a Country that has no Constitutional Rights,
would make a negative comment about one person’s post,
and not another ?
And start a thread about a person which the,
‘subject of another country’,
has absolutely no connection with.

In the thread about Mat Gaetz,
it has been, ‘reported’, with the SPIN, he
“… should be removed …”
“… facing  legations …”
“… probe into allegations …”
“… alleged sexual relationship …”
“… the Hill rumors …”
and on and on and on.

By  several sites,
which have proven which political side their bread is buttered on.

Gee Wiz Wally, if a guy is guilty,
the guy is guilty.
If the guy is not guilty,
why make him guilty ?


Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/03/21 at 18:38:50

Latest news is Greenberg who has already been indicted for sex trafficking worked with Gaetz according to text messages. I just see in my mind smirking face of Gaetz triumphantly trying to make Hunter Biden's cocaine use an issue in Congress. And him being the only member in the House Democrat or Republican to vote against the sex trafficking act just sort of sums up the epic scale of GOP hypocrisy.

This is the correction we had to have after Trump. I think also that the GOP are mistaken in their belief that bringing in new voter suppression laws wil work, I think it will encourage people to vote, now that they have seen their power in Georgia.


Remember that this investigation had to be signed off by Bill Barr under his tighter rules for investigating members of congress.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHZUTfWngS4[/media]

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by MnSpring on 04/05/21 at 15:26:22


22302427303634510 wrote:
" ... Greenberg who has already been indicted for sex trafficking
worked with Gaetz according to text messages. ... "



Can you supply, a source that says that ?
Just so someone reading it,
does not think you made it up.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Rockn on 04/05/21 at 20:06:50


5675486B6972757C1B0 wrote:
[quote author=22302427303634510 link=1617239796/0#11 date=1617500330] " ... Greenberg who has already been indicted for sex trafficking
worked with Gaetz according to text messages. ... "



Can you supply, a source that says that ?
Just so someone reading it,
does not think you made it up.[/quote]


https://www.thedailybeast.com/these-text-messages-led-the-feds-to-matt-gaetz?ref=scroll

also confirmed by the Orlando Sentinel:

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-joel-greenberg-matt-gaetz-closed-office-weekend-20210402-y5xcsaecibaa3eysrljvwjp3cm-story.html

as reported on by CNN:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/politics/matt-gaetz-campaign-funds-investigation/index.html

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by MnSpring on 04/06/21 at 08:54:42


Quote:

405D51595C465A575A534559320 wrote:
 
… the daily beast …
…orlando sentinel …
…cnn…  


My Bad, I meant to say,

“Reputable” sources,
   sources that, ‘report’, the truth,
       sources that do not ‘spin’.



Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Eegore on 04/06/21 at 08:57:30


 I thought we established years ago that the source is not important if the information is correct.

 

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/06/21 at 13:49:31

Source is unimportant IF it's true.

Knowing how certain sources operate is important.

Who is trustworthy?

I'm stuck on zero.

The liars had fun with the Trump Russia thing.

In fact, every source reported that the Vietnamese instigated the problem,, and that was eventually exposed as bullshit.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Eegore on 04/06/21 at 14:17:42

 I don't know, you defend information you agree with even if the source material is proven inaccurate.  It seems to me, and I could be wrong, that you think The National was trustworthy when they reported the CDC %1600 over reporting that isn't actually what that report said.  

 Or do you think O'Keefe is representative of accurate reporting knowing he stated he edits video to show responses to questions out of order?  Or are you still believing that the  FY 2021 Omnibus Appropriations Bill is also the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act Coronavirus Relief Fund (CRF)?

 Do you still think Gatewaypundit is "good news" knowing how that place operates?

 All of these have some facts, but their operating process is suspect for sure.  It's the cherry-picking of information that is the problem.  We have to take the good with the bad instead of ignoring the bad and just finding more good to pile up.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/07/21 at 04:31:42

I'm comfortable with my world view. It's assembled from the things I see and the things I read ,and then observed reality is my guide.

You suggest I follow CNN or fox?

I don't watch TV news, so I don't know if anyone is talking about the poor kids at the border.
You know, the thousands MORE than when Trump was literally Hitler and lefties spent their day screaming in anguish because Trump was mistreating them, and NOW look.

Yeah, I'm the misinformed guy here.


Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Eegore on 04/07/21 at 05:25:12

"You suggest I follow CNN or fox?"

 No.  I have specifically said multiple times, to you, that I do not use mainstream news.  I do not recommend it to others.

 What I am saying is you refute information you do not like (and wont read) but do not approach information you do like with equal skepticism and end up defending laws that do not exist, quotes from Washington that do not exist, CDC math that does not exist etc.  When challenged we get insults or a refusal to look at the information offered - but if someone else does that, you will claim they "don't have the balls to even look at it."

 If you are going to say things like this to other members:

Now you know you were duped.
Doesn't that say something about your source of information?
Doesn't it say something about YOU?


 Then at least consider the evidence you put on here might be inaccurate and that you have been duped too.  Your only strategies so far is to tell me to ignore the false sections and just look at the accurate ones.  Use insults.  Or refuse to look at information you do not like which allows you to maintain your observed reality.  If you don't look at truth you can claim lies as fact - you can claim the information is wrong without even looking at it.

 But you don't think its ok for anyone else to do that - you claim passing on false information says something about them.  What about you?

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by MnSpring on 04/07/21 at 09:10:33

Some people, believe, ‘information’, from a source.
Just because they believe that source is correct/honest/etc.

When it is proven it is just a, ‘opinion’, described/spun, as a fact.
When it is just a guess, described/spun, as a fact.
When it is a POV, and described/spun, as a fact.

That belief,
      mostly concurs with the, ‘opinion’,
of the person that butters your bread.

When it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt,
It is not even remotely close to being a fact.


Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/08/21 at 16:48:53

Most of your questions answered here...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxIEpUnC-jQ[/media]


When Greenbergs lawyer was asked if his client supplied under age girls for sex to Gaetz, he thought for a bit then said he didn't want to answer. Greenberg is about to flip and before Trump left office Gaetz tried to secure a 'blanket' pardon.

I think what is so compelling about the precipitous downfall of Gaetz is not so much the facts it's more the galling hypocrisy. As one wag said, Gaetz is everything that Gaetz wanted Hunter Biden to be.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/08/21 at 19:42:00

Hunter IS everything that has been alleged.
He ADMITTED that he crawled around, picking everything out of the carpet that even Looked like it might be crack.
The laptop?
His
The incriminating crap on it?
His.
He SAID that if Trump had won
He would be in trouble.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/08/21 at 20:53:12

And yet the astounding but true fact is that Bill Barr's justice department didn't think there was anything there to pursue regarding Hunter (because they don't open investigations based on Fox News wish lists), and yet the very same Trumpian, Bill Barr's DoJ, signed off on these very serious charges against your good buddy Matt.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/10/21 at 00:03:19

You are one of the reasons I don't participate here much now.
Your smarmy bullshit losses me off and you don't learn.
Bill Barr should have been disbarred after Waco.
I've explained till I'm sick of it.
Gaetz? Never heard of him till he made it big a week ago.
Anyway, pretending that because Barr chose to do something or not is some proof that someone is guilty or innocent is circular logic.
He IS a swamp creature. Trump screwed up with that guy. Dumb choice.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/10/21 at 18:31:31

The point of mentioning Bill Barr is that as you very well know, is that it can't be painted as partisan. Although hilariously Gaetz did exactly that.

btw I already predicted y'all would be posting less and crawling back under your rocks after Trump was turfed. Back to being a closet white supremecist for you.


btw this is what white supremacy looks like...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEIeT0OtBM0[/media]

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by MnSpring on 04/12/21 at 12:31:37


485A4E4D5A5C5E3B0 wrote:
" ... btw I already predicted y'all would be posting less and crawling back under your rocks after Trump was turfed.
Back to being a closet white supremecist for you.

Did one member here,
just call another member here,
a 'White Supremacist' ?

To totally understand the, 'new' rules.

A Liberal person can call a Conservative person a name,
yet a Conservative person can not call a Liberal person a name.

OK,  Got It !




Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Eegore on 04/12/21 at 18:04:22


"Did one member here,
just call another member here,
a 'White Supremacist' ?

To totally understand the, 'new' rules.

A Liberal person can call a Conservative person a name,
yet a Conservative person can not call a Liberal person a name.

OK,  Got It !
"


 I'm sure you could call others a White Supremacist without violating any rules.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by verslagen1 on 04/12/21 at 21:12:52


426260687562070 wrote:
 I'm sure you could call others a White Supremacist without violating any rules.



6472657860757863170 wrote:
It will remain at the top of the TT forum and will store posts deemed as personal attacks.


While 'name calling' is implied, it is not specifically defined as a personal attack.
But 'white supremacist' has come to represent something that most would find offensive.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Eegore on 04/13/21 at 06:38:07


"While 'name calling' is implied, it is not specifically defined as a personal attack.
But 'white supremacist' has come to represent something that most would find offensive.
"


 Good to know.

 Maybe we can find a workaround to this since degrading other people with different opinions is so important to us.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by MnSpring on 04/13/21 at 18:23:12


Quote:

32213637282523212A75440 wrote:
While 'name calling' is implied, it is not specifically defined as a personal attack. ..."

Great !
Than I can call any member here a, "White Supremacist",
Any time I want to.

Question; Can I call any member here a, 'Racist ...',
or is only someone with a certain political view allowed,
to call the other political view, person/member, a 'Racist'.

Do know, calling a elected officials mouth,
good for something other than talking, is forbidden.
Yet one can call a POTUS, anything !!!

(*Has someone complained about  "Ding-dong & HO-HO")

Just defining what the, 'new' rules are here,
as defined by tt & clones.

(* go to the post that a 'person' complained about
 using the word, 'Ho-Ho', to describe the VP)






Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Eegore on 04/13/21 at 19:32:18

"Great !
Than I can call any member here a, "White Supremacist",
Any time I want to.
"


 Incorrect.  You very specifically left out the part where this is considered "offensive".


"While 'name calling' is implied, it is not specifically defined as a personal attack.
But 'white supremacist' has come to represent something that most would find offensive."




"Do know, calling a elected officials mouth,
good for something other than talking, is forbidden.
Yet one can call a POTUS, anything !!!"


 
 Yes.  This has been gone over multiple times.  No matter how much you want to say things about AOC, the forum moderator(s) do not want the forum to contain verbiage that is disrespectful to women.  If you must say degrading things about women just do it elsewhere, not sure why this is such a big deal.
 

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/14/21 at 16:22:58

Update: Matt Gaetz is defending himself against the investigation against him by taking out ads.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/matt-gaetz-ad-buy-481588


I call it like it is. Any support of voter suppression by pretending that it's about 'election security', is barely disguised white supremacy because preventing non white people from voting is the very epitome of white supremacy.

Matt Gaetz: They're not coming for me, they're coming for you! No, Matt they're coming for you.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/15/21 at 23:24:29

Latest News!

The FBI obtained a warrant to seize and search his phone and his iPhone was duly seized. In the video below Glenn Kirschner explains how fcuked Gaetz actually is, which turns out to be, quite a bit.

The gist is that because it's the Executive branch seeking property from a sitting member of Congress, that the 'probable cause' standard in this case would be stratospheric.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD-lhkMSpa4[/media]

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/24/21 at 17:17:00

UPDATE: what a tangled web...

It appears that all the threads are weaving themselves into a recognisable picture. The sex trafficking, the Cannabis Entrepreneur, The Bahamas, what it's really all about is something as basic as bribing a congressman to support legislation that aids the party doctor/cannabis entrepreneur.

This is a slow burn fuse and now there's Merrick Garland as head of the DoJ there's sure to be a monumental implosion. Gaetz even paid Roger Stone for consultancy on how to handle this, that's separate from his solicitors.

I'm sure Hunter Biden is enjoying this.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by MnSpring on 04/24/21 at 19:01:56


60726665727476130 wrote:
" UPDATE: what a tangled web...
It appears that all the threads ... , ... really all about is something as basic as bribing a congressman to support legislation that aids the party ... "


Really ???????
So you don't have a clue how things work.
or you believe no one else has a clue how things work,
 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Gee,
perhaps that is because you are a SUBJECT,
not a Citizen !


Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Mavigogun on 05/03/21 at 12:36:26

Turns out one of the standard bearers for the guy screwing a pornographer while his most recent wife was pregnant with his most recent child is a child rapist and sex trafficker.   No one is really surprised-  Gaetz is of a piece with the likes of Jim Jordan.   Nor is anyone surprised when the usual failed human beings frequenting this venue step up to defend these miserable people.  

The reason for their hatred of all things good is painfully clear- nothing is worse than an accurate reflection, or anyone clean enough to to contrast with their putrescent, corrupt spirits.   The real tragedy here, though- in this forum -is the oxygen given to this moral decay.    It’s like making a habit of tasting flatulence, then opining on just how sick the author of each emission.

The trolls here will not be redeemed- there is zero nobility in illuminating their septic wallow.   Kick this habit, dude- give your energy to some constructive need -‘cuz this ain’t it.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by WebsterMark on 05/03/21 at 15:53:33

”The reason for their hatred of all things good is painfully clear- “

Please educate me on what or who represents “all things good”.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/04/21 at 04:42:47

IDK about Gaetz, it will shake out,ok guess. Let creeps get what they deserve.
And just because it's named Biden doesn't give it a pass.
Imagine being the daughter of a prostitute who had to sue the crack head baby daddy for support and your grandfather is the President..

The FBI refused to accept Biden's hard drive content from Giuliani,,??

So I hear..

The world is so crazy I may just start watching wrestling and try to pretend it's not fake.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Eegore on 05/04/21 at 05:31:13


 "The world is so crazy I may just start watching wrestling and try to pretend it's not fake."

 Good idea.

 FYI I was able to watch the A&E biography on Andre the Giant during a flight and I thought it was well done.  The A&E biographs on the wrestlers are good and I found it interesting how connected they get to their personas.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by MnSpring on 05/04/21 at 07:33:59


25293E212F272F3D26480 wrote:

Quote:
Turns out one of the standard bearers for the guy screwing a pornographer while his most recent wife was pregnant with his most recent child is a child rapist and sex trafficker.
 

So who is the , "...standard bearer..." for:

   Biden, lying on the 4473 in buying a gun?
Or Buying/Using all sorts of illegal drugs for many years?
Or the 3.5 Mil he got for one of his, ‘companies’ from the only female Russian Billionaire?
Or the cheating on his wife, and screwing his dead brothers wife?
Or when he finally divorced her she said; “spending extravagantly on his own interests (including drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs and gifts for women with whom he has sexual relations), while leaving the family with no funds to pay legitimate bills,” ?
Or when Biden’s name and email address showed up as a customer of Ashley Madison?
Or who married a woman 10 days after he met her?
Or, ‘working’ as a Lobbyist for one of, Ukraine’s largest natural gas companies.?
Or, having Daddy, “threatened to withhold $1 billion in United States loan guarantees if Ukraine’s leaders did not dismiss the country’s top prosecutor,  …” because, at the time, he was a board member for “an energy company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch” who had been a target of the fired prosecutor.” ?

And be Beat goes on !!!!
'Drums keep sounding a rhythm in my brain'

(the beat of Lies, Cover-ups, Protection)

      (Think of Cher singing a song)

And you still have not answered the question:

Quote:
"..Please educate me on what or who represents “all things good”. ..."





Title: Plea Deal
Post by eau de sauvage on 05/12/21 at 19:36:33

Greenberg has till tomorrow to make a plea deal. More details out today that, in the words of Erika Smith civil rights attorney, it's starting to sound like Epstein level allegations.


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8aLMOBoUIM[/media]

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 05/13/21 at 20:05:57

Just announced, Greenberg is going to co-operate. Shocker!

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 05/14/21 at 00:48:29

Greenberg is pleading guilty. Meaning he has a plea deal, Gaetz is toast.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/matt-gaetz-joel-greenberg-plea-deal-/2021/05/13/bb55ae54-af54-11eb-b476-c3b287e52a01_story.html

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 05/14/21 at 19:33:02

Glenn Kirschner public prosecutor for SDNY for 30 years, said he's never seen a plea deal where they drop 27 charges. Out of 33 Gaetz only has to plead guilty to six. Glenn wants us to know that to get that sort of a deal, Greenberg would have to have lots of other names, not just Gaetz.

The Daily Beast who have this story, say there are numerous witness who can testify to the veracity of all the claims.

So we have Gaetz who was bringing up Hunter Biden, (who I remind you is not a member of parliament) paying for sex with underage prostitutes and paying them extra to take ecstasy and cocaine.

This is the story that will keep on giving.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMpoHmRal-k[/media]

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 05/15/21 at 00:50:33

The exclusive reporting from The Daily Beast is behind a paywall so I'm going to past their latest update in full if anyone is interested.  Greenberg will plead guilty on Monday....

hen Rep. Matt Gaetz attended a 2019 GOP fundraiser in Orlando, his date that night was someone he knew well: a paid escort and amateur Instagram model who led a cocaine-fueled party after the event, according to two witnesses.

The Florida congressman’s one-time wingman, Joel Greenberg, will identify that escort to investigators as one of more than 15 young women Gaetz paid for sex, according to a source familiar with the investigation.

But what distinguishes this woman, Megan Zalonka, is that she turned her relationship with Greenberg into a taxpayer-funded no-show job that earned her an estimated $7,000 to $17,500, according to three sources and corresponding government records obtained by The Daily Beast.

On Oct. 26, 2019, Gaetz attended the “Trump Defender Gala” fundraiser as the featured speaker at the Westgate Lake Resort in Orlando. Two witnesses present recalled friends reconvening at Gaetz’s hotel room for an after-party, where Zalonka prepared lines of cocaine on the bathroom counter. One of those witnesses distinctly remembers Zalonka pulling the drugs out of her makeup bag, rolling a bill of cash, and joining Gaetz in snorting the cocaine.

While The Daily Beast could not confirm that Gaetz and Zalonka had sex that night, two sources said the pair had an ongoing financial relationship in exchange for sex. "She was just one of the many pieces of arm candy he had,” said one source familiar with the encounters between Gaetz and Zalonka.

The congressman—who has declared that he “never paid for sex”—wrote off the stay at the hotel as a campaign expense, with his donors picking up the tab.

Handout
The U.S. Secret Service, which initiated the Greenberg investigation over allegations that Greenberg used county resources to mine Bitcoin, would not comment on the ongoing probe. Federal prosecutors with the Middle District of Florida would not say if investigators have questioned Zalonka. Greenberg’s attorney declined comment, citing attorney-client privilege.

Gaetz’s office did not respond to a request for comment. However, his hired public relations firm, Logan Circle Group, did issue this statement: “Congressman Gaetz won’t be commenting on whether he dated or didn’t date specific women. The privacy of women living private lives should be protected.” Harlan Hill, the president of that firm, did not address questions about cocaine, the party, or the fundraiser.

After repeated calls and messages to Zalonka over the last five weeks, her attorney told The Daily Beast on Thursday night that she “is not speaking to any media outlet.” Mark J. O’Brien, a criminal defense lawyer, said the allegations were not “accurate” but would not elaborate further. He did not respond to a list of detailed questions about the fundraiser party, Zalonka’s county contract, or her relationships with Greenberg and the congressman.

Federal investigators are exploring Greenberg’s alleged role as the congressman’s go-to contact for arranging paid sexual encounters, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the probe. Greenberg is slated to plead guilty on Monday to six felonies and is expected to cooperate as a witness against his former friend.

Zalonka, who is an amateur fashion model and the communications director for the American Medical Marijuana Physicians Association, received $4,000 on Venmo from Greenberg during his first year in office in 2017—mostly in $500 installments. And Greenberg, who is married, listed various explanations for why he paid Zalonka. In the memo fields of his Venmo payments, he paid her $500 for “Stuff,” another $500 for “Orher stuff” [sic], and $1,000 for “Pool.” On a single day in November, he paid her $500 for “Food” and another $500 for “Appetizers.”

But Zalonka’s interactions with Greenberg in 2017 morphed into a business relationship with the air of legitimacy. In December of that year, she was in close communication with him as she created her own company, MZ Strategy Group LLC, according to emails between Greenberg and Zalonka that were viewed by The Daily Beast. The next month, Greenberg awarded her a county contract, agreeing to pay her $3,500 a month for “management of digital content” and “production of social media engagements.”

Zalonka’s firm received $3,500 installments in Seminole County taxpayer funds in January and April 2018, according to an analysis of Greenberg's government spending obtained via a public records request. Those payments would later be flagged as a “questioned or unaccounted for purchase” by county-contracted auditors with the Florida forensic accounting firm MSL. Even the tax office’s own chief financial officer, who processed the payments, noted in her reports: “do not know what it was for.”

Auditors flagged other $3,500 installments in February, March, and May of that year, in the form of suspicious cash advances directly to Greenberg—but Greenberg never specified the purpose of those withdrawals. The charges appear to have ceased after that point.

Totally a no-show job... There's no work product, no evidence work was done. It's just unbelievable.
— Daniel O’Keefe, accountant
Four people familiar with Zalonka’s arrangement said it was a “no-show” contract. Zalonka never worked at the office, and it was unclear what service she provided, they said. Accountant Daniel J. O'Keefe, who led the forensic audit of Greenberg’s alleged self-dealing, said tax collector employees told him the woman behind the company was a mystery. O’Keefe added that he found no proof Zalonka ever provided the services itemized in her contract with Greenberg.

“I have no idea what they were doing. And employees wouldn't know what they were doing. Totally a no-show job,” O’Keefe said. “There's no work product, no evidence work was done. It's just unbelievable.”

Zalonka also features prominently in a tranche of Greenberg’s Venmo transactions, which include his payments to more than 40 women. Those women received hundreds of dollars at a time for memo items such as “salad,” “lemons,” and “ass,” according to financial records. The Daily Beast spoke to 12 of those women, who all said the payments were at least in part because Greenberg intended to have sex with them.

Three young women paid by Greenberg, who spoke to The Daily Beast under condition of anonymity, placed Zalonka in the room during a 2018 encounter at the Duval Hotel in Tallahassee.

One of the women—all of them 19-year-old students attending nearby Florida State University at the time—said Greenberg and a number of “well-connected Republican men” bought them drinks at the hotel bar, knowing how old the students were, then led them to a room furnished with “a huge pile of coke.” The men wanted to have sex with the teens and implied that Zalonka, who was in the room, would join in, one of the women recalled. When the teens refused, Greenberg, Zalonka, and another man went into a connected room to have sex, according to one of the former students and screenshots of a conversation between the three women reviewed by The Daily Beast.

Zalonka had signed her marketing contract weeks before the encounter, and financial records show that Greenberg paid for a flight to Tallahassee with Seminole County taxpayer money around that time.

American Medical Marijuana Physicians Association Executive Director Savara Hastings (left) and Megan Zalonka with Rep. Matt Gaetz.
via Twitter
Zalonka’s interactions with Greenberg’s circle extended to Gaetz as well. In mid-2018, Zalonka became a spokesperson for the American Medical Marijuana Physicians Association (AMMPA), a cannabis legalization group with close ties to Gaetz. The congressman was feted as a guest of honor at two of its conferences in 2018, and attended the previous year’s annual conference in October. The 2017 conference, which Greenberg also attended, featured Republican operative and Trump loyalist Roger Stone, who appeared at a Gaetz fundraiser after the congressman’s keynote speech. That day, Oct. 5, Greenberg used Venmo to send Zalonka $500 around midday—for “Rent.”

Other AMMPA officials have close ties to Gaetz and Greenberg. In Gaetz’s book, Firebrand, published last September, the congressman singles out executive director Savara Hastings and her boyfriend, AMMPA chairman Jason Pirozzolo, as some of his “best friends.” Gaetz also says he has spent New Years Eve with the couple in the Florida Keys, and he has posted Instagram pictures featuring Hastings in Pirozzolo’s private plane as far back as 2014.

Investigators with the Justice Department’s Public Integrity division are now examining Gaetz’s interactions with young women and cannabis industry contacts, CNN reported, as part of a probe into whether Gaetz was provided with sex from escorts in exchange for political favors. The sprawling criminal inquiry that originated with Greenberg has since morphed into an investigation into Gaetz’s role in an alleged prostitution ring that includes potential sex crimes with a 17-year-old girl.

The probe could soon have a valuable new asset if Greenberg finalizes a cooperation agreement that could turn him into a government witness against Gaetz and others. While Greenberg was out on release during his final months of the Trump administration, he wrote a confession letter that said he saw acts “occur first hand” involving Gaetz and the underage teen.

However, Gaetz has not been charged with a crime, and the government has not publicly acknowledged a case against him. Gaetz has also denied all charges, and told The Daily Beast on March 31 that the last time he had sex with a 17-year-old, he was 17 himself.

In August 2020, the month federal prosecutors filed a superseding indictment against Greenberg to include the sex trafficking charges, Zalonka received a grand jury subpoena, according to news reports, as well as a person with knowledge of the subpoena. In a Facebook post the next month, AMMPA canceled its annual October conference for the first time, citing concerns related to COVID. The group hasn’t posted since.

Gaetz, however, continued to engage with Zalonka online. As recently as March 11, he commented “Smiling ninjas!” on an Instagram photo of Zalonka. After The Daily Beast published its first report about Greenberg’s mysterious Venmo transactions, Zalonka made her Instagram privat

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by WebsterMark on 05/15/21 at 04:43:33

None of this is particularly  important. Gaetz was getting media attention for pointing out the obvious abdication of duty by the press by refusing to give attention to The Biden’s criminal dealings but paybacks are a b!tch as they say. The press is going overboard to punish someone who called them out. But, big picture as far as what this means for the country? Nothing. It’s throwing food pellets into the pond so the children can gather around, watch the fish jump all over themselves and think they’re seeing something important...

Rep. Eric Swalwell on the other hand, was banging a Chinese spy and when told, he gave her a heads up and she left the country. Third in line for the presidency, the speaker of the house, renewed his membership on the House Intelligence Committee. And let’s not mention the lies he presented at the ridiculous 2nd impeachment.

But hey.....good news for you, I see a kid coming your way with handful of fish pellets so better get yourself in position to feed....

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by MnSpring on 05/15/21 at 18:37:46


102225343322350A26352C470 wrote:
... But hey.....good news for you, I see a kid coming your way with handful of fish pellets so better get yourself in position to feed....

Perfect example of what is happening.

    Hey, look over their !!!!!!

A Pipeline is being attacked,
And their are gas shortages.

All in response to Fauci,
Lying, Spinning,
And being handed his Azz.

BUT, a ‘subject’ of a Monarchy,
knows all about being handed his Azz.
LOLOLOL





Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by MnSpring on 05/15/21 at 18:56:42


Quote:

74786F707E767E6C77190 wrote:
...
The reason for their hatred of all things good is painfully clear- ...


Again you are asked.

Who, are the people, that have;
Quote:
'hatred of all things good'
,
And Who, are the people that decide, what things are good ?

It has been 13 days !!!!!!!!!

You JUMP on something you think you have the answer for.
Why NOT ANSWER this question ???????

(Golly Gee Wally could it be ..,.,.,..)

;D
;D
;D
;D
;D
;D ;D ;D ;D







Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Eegore on 05/15/21 at 23:14:14


"You JUMP on something you think you have the answer for.
Why NOT ANSWER this question ???????"



 Maybe he will answer once he gets elected.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by eau de sauvage on 05/22/21 at 14:09:10

Update: now Gaetz' previous gf is going to testify. Also some more reporting regarding Greenberg's 'confession' letter to Roger Stone, in order to try and wrangle a pardon from the trumpster. Apparently Gaetz wanted to cut Greenberg loose, which is why Greenberg is doesn't care much for Gaetz.

Gaetz is not going to be able to get his dad to 'fix' this like he did his DUI, in which the arresting officer was the one who got fired!

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by WebsterMark on 05/23/21 at 04:39:52

Did Matt Gaetz steal your girlfriend or something? Run over your dog? Why the fascination about Gaetz?

Gaetz’s real crime is being an annoyance to leftist politicians and now that they control the DOJ, they’re out for revenge and you act like an Untouchable chasing down Al Capone. I mean you can’t really be concerned about sex with underage girls cause if you did, you be making daily post about investigations into Bill Clinton.

Full disclosure, I can’t stand Gaetz. He forced himself into the limelight and I don’t think he deserved the attention. I don’t know anything he’s done of significance yet he’s always on camera. Reminds me of a toned down Obama. Never really did anything but a bunch of media decided he was somebody one day and all of a sudden, he’s national figure.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by WebsterMark on 04/02/22 at 05:14:50

As Peppermint Patty would say in the White House briefing room, “let’s circle back to this”

It’s been a year, and no charges have been filed. The only charges filed were against a person (and I believe convicted)  with trying to extort $25 million from the Gaetz family. But our drive-by shooter felt the need to label this person as a child sex predator on the order of leftist school teachers in Florida who want to tell second third graders about anal sex between men.

When you add this with all of the false allegations against Trump, the made up stories against Kavanaugh and just the general lies coming out of the leftist media it becomes clear we do need an insurrection but not necessarily against the government. I think it seems more and more obvious it’s the leftist media that controls democratic politicians and not the other way around.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by Serowbot on 04/02/22 at 10:01:28


695B5C4D4A5B4C735F4C553E0 wrote:
Why the fascination about Gaetz?

Lewinsky was in her early 20's, well past the age of consent.
The interest in Gaetz  is that he is accused of everything the Qanon Right has been accusing Liberal's of.
Trafficking, statutory rape, prostitution, crossing state lines with a minor,... everything short of eating babies.

Remember Pizzagate?... Hillary's child sex trafficking ring based out of the cellar of a pizza place that had no cellar.
Nothing burger.
This is a Whopper.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/02/22 at 11:04:39

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/gaetz-seeks-strip-intel-officials-who-called-hunter-biden-laptop-russian

They told the whopper

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz, child sex trafficking
Post by WebsterMark on 04/02/22 at 14:16:29


3D2B3C21392C213A4E0 wrote:
[quote author=695B5C4D4A5B4C735F4C553E0 link=1617239796/45#50 date=1621769992] Why the fascination about Gaetz?

Lewinsky was in her early 20's, well past the age of consent.
The interest in Gaetz  is that he is accused of everything the Qanon Right has been accusing Liberal's of.
Trafficking, statutory rape, prostitution, crossing state lines with a minor,... everything short of eating babies.

Remember Pizzagate?... Hillary's child sex trafficking ring based out of the cellar of a pizza place that had no cellar.
Nothing burger.
This is a Whopper.[/quote]

Like the cellar, there was nothing to the Gaetz allegations either, they were made up. And if you want to compare fabricated stories of the right vs the left, you’d lose so don’t.

But Bill however did screw around with a 20 year old intern who let him grab her by the pu$$y. Wait, that sounds familiar….

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