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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1617114106 Message started by RiderOnTheStorm on 03/30/21 at 07:21:45 |
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Title: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by RiderOnTheStorm on 03/30/21 at 07:21:45 Hello everyone! So two weeks ago I purchased an 02 Savage LS 650 about 40 miles away from home. The bike rode perfectly for 35 miles! Then abruptly the engine just shut off on me. I was able to pull over and restart it and travel another half mile. This happened 4-5 times until I was able to reach a nearby friend's house. After a few days, I couldn't even get it to spur the engine, just the dreaded click-click-click sound, then nothing! I was able to tow it to my house last week. The first thing I did to diagnose was attach jumpers and attempt to jump the bike. This stopped the clicking and the bike would kick but not turn over! My gut says its the stator and/or regulator rectifier. I posted a link of a video of me trying to jump it. Can one of you kind brethren tell me if you think I should replace the stator and regulator rectifier? Thank you! Jay |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by RiderOnTheStorm on 03/30/21 at 07:22:13 https://youtube.com/shorts/PWsaSDmLwCg |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by Yoshi on 03/30/21 at 07:56:23 Looks like a raptor petcock on there already but does it have fuel? Have you tried it on reserve? |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by verslagen1 on 03/30/21 at 08:43:01 Well you killed the battery with multiple tries, recharge it. But that's not the 1st problem unless it went dead while riding. Your vid shows the battery isn't very strong, check it with a multimeter. If when starting, the voltage drops below 10v, it's not going to start. check the water, recharge or get a new battery. |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by ohiomoto on 03/30/21 at 19:46:04 Sounds like a classic petcock failure and the battery is weak. You have compression, but you need fuel and a a strong spark to make fire. |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by RiderOnTheStorm on 03/30/21 at 20:52:25 When I was getting stuck and I turned it to reserve it was able to run a lot longer. I will add new fuel tomorrow and get that battery charged. 31203108040A0013120A08610 wrote:
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by RiderOnTheStorm on 03/30/21 at 20:59:51 So you dont think this is a charging problem on the bike? Stator/ rectifier? 4F5C4B4A55585E5C5708390 wrote:
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by verslagen1 on 03/30/21 at 21:29:14 072C2F3F2C237A7A4D0 wrote:
Several starts w/out running it long enough to charge... no. but charging it full up should give you enough to run for an extended time. Once you do get it started, after its warmed up, rev it up to 4000 rpm and it should show 14v. |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by Zepp on 03/31/21 at 08:22:33 It happendens to me altso last year, in my last autum ride. Soo its becuse of this it was my last ride that year, in any way I did manage to get home! At first the engine seems to be slugisch, nemas problemas, its often low gas, turned on reserv, stopped at nearest gas station, filled up and back to normal on the petcock! In any case the engin started and I got home, even if it feldt like one is short of fuel! To that.. Im alredy read a lot of the vacum petkock isue and thougt its about this? Next wekend.. knowing about the vacum petkock isue, turned the petkock to overide the vacum and fill upp like no vacum need! Than.. there was no current in my batteri, it was totaly broken! Reading a lot in this forum, asking my biker friends and then I boght me a new AGM batterie.. mostly becuse my biker friends and some on this site says that AGM is often better then ordanary wet bateries. In any case.. it was a menace to replace it, a lot of screws to be lose and side panels to. On the other case, when the new batteri was in place, the engin started on standard petcock in its normal standing. And to the petckock isue, I figure out there is several differant issues, no perticularu for our bike. First, its a vacum petkock, there is a vacum tube frome the carburator to the petckock to make it open, this one can be old and leaking and it can be lose! Any petkock have some filter to it, and if its full of dirt, it dont provide that much petrol anyhow. Then try the reserv position, it sholdnt make it better, the same filter, but lower part on it! :o In my case it was the battrey, that was broken. |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by RiderOnTheStorm on 03/31/21 at 12:08:18 392A3D3C232E282A217E4F0 wrote:
Several starts w/out running it long enough to charge... no. but charging it full up should give you enough to run for an extended time. Once you do get it started, after its warmed up, rev it up to 4000 rpm and it should show 14v.[/quote] So I took the battery to autozone, had them charge it up fully. I put it back in, put in some new fresh gas, and turned the key. The lights turned on, and I help the clutch gave some throttle and pressed the ignition button, I heard a few quick clicks and then the lights went out too! The lights were on when I was attempting to jump. |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by Gary_in_NJ on 03/31/21 at 13:05:26 You need a new battery |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by Zepp on 04/01/21 at 03:58:33 You probably need a new battery? "but charging it full up should give you enough to run for an extended time." Yeah, if the battery is not to old! Every battery have a best befor time, wet ones, AGM and even Lithium! In any case a new battery is one of the cheapest spareparts to buy.. and kind of easyest to replace. |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/01/21 at 05:48:16 The rules for jumping a bike are different than cars. I don't know exactly how to do it safely. |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by Dave on 04/02/21 at 03:19:35 796660677A7D4C7C4C74666A21130 wrote:
When you jump start a motorcycle - never do it from a vehicle that is running. Evidently there have been problems where the current or voltage from a running vehicle can fry the ignition module on the motorcycle. |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/02/21 at 06:38:42 Thanks |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by Zepp on 04/07/21 at 03:20:43 And how to jump start this bike! I cant figure it out? Becuse when my battery got broken, I hade to disasambly a lot to get to the battery at first. But then after geting the battery out i used my car charger.. and even the jump start option.. the battery was broken! In any way I bought a new AGM battery and even a trickle charger, that provided a on battery connection for trickle charging. In any way, there is 3 options on my charger, MC, car and very low temperatur charging/starting. I have no intension to start my Savage at very low temperaturs any how. And then frome jump starting to push starting, we dont have a kick start option on this bike. :( In any way I probably have watched every Youtube video thats related to our bike? In any case, this guy inherited a 20 year old bike. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pPHlXQ59sQ&t=2s&ab_channel=RayRay3866 One still need a full charged battery! |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by verslagen1 on 04/07/21 at 07:01:31 http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1337452721 Never push a savage backward in gear or you'll be picking gear teeth out of the oil. |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by Zepp on 04/07/21 at 10:25:05 293A2D2C333E383A316E5F0 wrote:
I got you, but.. I think this guy have another problem, exempt that he has heridet an 20 year old Savage! And that is probably one of his best fortunes.. in any way I altso regret that he lost hes father.. I altso lost my father last year! In any case, he lost hes father and heredite a Savage, that was broken, he is making it a S40 for no reson at all! There is a formar Youtube befor his pushstart if on like to whatch that! No one need to pick this up, the starter gears was broken, he got it fixed, then it got broken again! WTF.. a nice bike anyhow. And then I got thinking about my old biker friends that ride Norton, kickstarted it, push pistones to the right position, befor one climp the kickstart. Okey, they know how to do it., otherwise the engin could start backward, noe, it give one a kickback as hell! But this was at a time that bikers was bikers.. old time anyhow! :'( Soo, my simple sugestion is that its about the exhastue valve lifting solonid thing that supose to lift the exhauste for som seconds if on push the starting knobb? This bike is a big thumper, starter motor wind it in the right direction, then it need to start as i it supose to start. In any way, I got the original manual, it emphasis a lot on to check the exchauste decrompresion valve. Dont even ask me to find my manaul.. its here in my house, some where! Lets start a discussion if a wrong exchauste decromp soliniod valve setting could make our engin to backfire and crush the starting gears! |
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Title: Re: 02 Savage LS650 shut off while riding Post by Zepp on 04/07/21 at 14:40:45 And now I find his first Youtube on that bike! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ4hgXflAow&t=28s&ab_channel=RayRay3866 Its a beutiful bike, but his starter gears is broken! And then I noticed.. blue exhauste pipe, and a little black betwen the cylinder and the top! :o No, Im not that schocked, becus the more of this bike I seen.. almoste everyone have this little black betwen the cylinder and the top.. its not that famous top leak! And half of them have a blue pipe.. or wrapings around it! |
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