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Title: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 03/08/21 at 07:29:09 And the Fear is still continuing. MORE conflicting statements, about c-19, vaccine effectiveness and distribution. MORE coverage of the fatal, Illegal Drug infested, Fellon, that their ever was about a -fast-tracked-, "Diversity" person who KILLED a person in absolute Cold Blood. And Deflection. All the concern about who said what, about someone who is 6th inline for a Monarchy of three countries of Subjects. So the ShePol can forget about a laptop, or someone throwing paint on a canvas and selling them for bucko bucks to a Nation that want's to CONTROL the USA. And now, WHO smells FEAR/WEAKNESS ? Could it be all the countries, that are now rattling their sabers in various ways ? Could it be the flood of illegals lined up to cross the boarders ? Could it be all the, 'banana republics', with their hand out ? And on, and ON, AND ON, ..., ..., ... |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 03/08/21 at 15:35:32 Without references we can't discuss what you see. I can look up Covid 19 but there is no way for me to know if what I look up is what you are referring to. I can search "someone throwing paint on a canvas and selling them for bucko bucks to a Nation that want's to CONTROL the USA." but I can't tell if that is what you are referring to. https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=GLVGYOnRCemF9PwPusKQ0Ag&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYEbDKCjtx533RFynJPklPUUPeKnMxfM7&q=someone+throwing+paint+on+a+canvas+and+selling+them+for+bucko+bucks+to+a+Nation+that+want%27s+to+CONTROL+the+USA.&oq=someone+throwing+paint+on+a+canvas+and+selling+them+for+bucko+bucks+to+a+Nation+that+want%27s+to+CONTROL+the+USA.&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EANQswNYswNgiQpoAHAAeACAAQCIAQCSAQCYAQCgAQKgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjpvZ_G7qHvAhXpAp0JHTohBIoQ4dUDCAo&uact=5 |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 03/10/21 at 06:45:54 426260687562070 wrote:
Really ?????????? So then you have no idea of what I am talking about when I say: Look at the support for, 'Red Laws', when two people can accuse someone of something, with absolutely no proof, and total refusal of who said certain things. And when another person raised their eyebrows at that, so many shepol, totally believed them !!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 03/10/21 at 07:50:55 I would know what you are talking about, regarding the subject you just changed, but not the subject you originally brought up, specific to the questions raised about the topic questioned and not other topics. If I say I am using nicknames for a politician and you tell me that you do not know specifically what those nicknames refer to because a search of those nicknames reveal multiple results - then I bring up Red laws, it would be reasonable for you to continue to not know the specific nickname reference I am using. You would have an idea, but not know the correct one. If I say I am using a lumen chart to evaluate conversion ratios and you ask me what one I use and I bring up Red Laws, it would be reasonable for you to still not know what chart I am using. You would have an idea of what I am talking about but not the specifics. If I say "someone throwing paint on a canvas and selling them for bucko bucks to a Nation that want's to CONTROL the USA." and you provide the search results, and those results that do not indicate what this means, and I bring up Red Laws, it would be reasonable for you to continue to not know what that sentence refers to. So to answer your question as you continue to avoid mine: Yes I would have an idea on what you are talking about, regarding the new topic you just chose. Now if I ask "What law are you referring to?" and you say "look it up" and there are multiple laws across the country, how would I know which one you are talking about? |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 03/12/21 at 08:37:24 "... Support for Covid-19 Vaccine Passports Grows, With European, Chinese Backing. Similarly, the European Commission plans this month to present proposals for a “digital green pass” for EU citizens, which will specify if someone has been vaccinated, and if not, carry details of their test results. “The aim is to gradually enable them [EU citizens] to move safely in the European Union or abroad—for work or tourism,” As vaccine rollouts gain momentum, governments world-wide are looking at ways for people to prove they are inoculated against the coronavirus, raising logistical and ethical concerns about whether others will be excluded from daily life. The U.K. government recently announced it will consider whether Britons will need proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test to visit bars, return to the office or attend theaters and sporting events. In Israel, a vaccine passport was launched last week allowing those who are inoculated to go to hotels and gyms. Saudi Arabia now issues an app-based health passport for those inoculated, Iceland’s government is doling out vaccine passports to facilitate foreign travel. Last month, President Biden issued executive orders asking government agencies to assess the feasibility of creating digital Covid-19 vaccination certificates. ..." And On and ON the FEAR is spread. Simply to CONTROL the world populous, for a WORLD Order/Leader. And the US will hold out for a while, Until ALL the FDS, UL, Progressive Freedom Hating Socialists, gain total and complete CONTROL. (As they are currently working towards) |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 03/12/21 at 09:41:31 Don't we require a passport already? Why would requiring proof one has a vaccine be different than other requirements to go from country to country? Or are you recommending passports not be used at all for the US, or some other reduction in confirming ID when travelling to other countries? |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 03/12/21 at 18:27:11 624240485542270 wrote:
Perhaps you missed, the implication of, "Papers Please", to travel to the next State, or the next town, or next door. "... concerns about whether others will be excluded from daily life. The U.K. government recently announced it will consider whether Britons will need proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test to visit bars, return to the office or attend theaters and sporting events. In Israel, a vaccine passport was launched last week allowing those who are inoculated to go to hotels and gyms. Saudi Arabia now issues an app-based health passport for those inoculated ..." |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/12/21 at 20:22:16 Country to country Sure But the bank? Try to get the intent Don't play |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 03/12/21 at 22:52:15 "Perhaps you missed, the implication of, "Papers Please", to travel to the next State, or the next town, or next door." I did. I would say it's unenforceable at this time, and at any time in the near future, to say the US Government can prohibit the travel of every citizen from State to State, town to town or house to house. The logistics of keeping every human in the country under that type of surveillance is astronomical. I imagine this will go into effect around the same time SWAT teams start kicking in doors taking guns from every person in the country. Enforcing gyms is more reasonable as they can control, to a degree, the operations of gyms on a case by case basis. Locking down an entire town would take much more resources than boarding up a single building. I think the concern regarding this typically outweighs the logistical ability to do most of what is predicted to happen at some point in some Orwellian future we were told would happen decades ago. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 03/21/21 at 07:39:49 Sunday 'news', the FEAR is rampant ! The Sky is falling ! Recent shooting of Asians, the path to inflation, the surge in saber rattling, Even the SURGE in Illegals, is Trumps fault, despite Ding-Dong, striking down all measures Trump put in. And INFERING, Before and after the 'election', that illegals are Welcome !!!!!!!! Nation Wide news coverage about a white cop doing his job by containing a dangerous Drug Infested Felon. Yet Nothing about a 'fast tracked' black cop KILLING a white female IN COLD BLOOD. Golly Gee Wally, where are all the tt, 'Social Justice warrior' clones ? (Or could it be they are just Freedom Hating Socialists) |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 04/05/21 at 15:07:32 Keep taking the links outa that chain to make it shorter ! " ...Last updated on 03/24/2021 Like many elements of travel, the COVID-19 pandemic has had a significant effect on domestic travel. Constantly changing restrictions and guidelines leave many travelers unsure about how to travel between states and what will be required of them upon arrival. To help clarify the situation, InsureMyTrip has aggregated recent data from reliable sources and condensed it into maps, which will be updated as necessary, to reflect the latest restrictions and guidelines for each state. So, before hitting the road on your next U.S. adventure, check our travel restrictions guide to ensure you know what to expect. For some states, it appears slightly more complex than simply "do I need to quarantine upon arrival or not?" A significant number of states offer COVID-19 testing in lieu of a mandatory quarantine. Additionally, many states are implementing mandatory documentation upon arrival and health screening at airports. ... " And from the Favorite site of the Ding-Dong and Ho-Ho lovers. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/travel-during-covid19.html " ... Domestic Travel Recommendations for Fully Vaccinated People People who are fully vaccinated with an FDA-authorized vaccine can travel safely within the United States. Domestic Travel Recommendations for Unvaccinated People ... • After you travel: [ch9702] Get tested with a viral test 3-5 days after travel AND stay home and self-quarantine for a full 7 days after travel. [ch9642] Even if you test negative, stay home and self-quarantine for the full 7 days. ... " Wait, the CDC just said, ‘7’ days ? Now when did they change that ? Well, I suppose they learned it was OK. Especially after listing to Ding-Dong, stating totally contradicting statements, Numerous Times. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/05/21 at 15:44:17 "Wait, the CDC just said, ‘7’ days ? Now when did they change that ?" When the information supporting it became available. It's only 7 days under the specific circumstances listed. 10 for other circumstances and 14 for another. Changes will happen as they clearly indicate: CDC will update these recommendations as more people are vaccinated, as rates of COVID-19 change, and as additional scientific evidence becomes available. Now if we post the whole section and don't cut it off to only show 7 days we can see this: After you travel: Get tested with a viral test 3-5 days after travel AND stay home and self-quarantine for a full 7 days after travel. Even if you test negative, stay home and self-quarantine for the full 7 days. If your test is positive, isolate yourself to protect others from getting infected. If you don’t get tested, stay home and self-quarantine for 10 days after travel. Avoid being around people who are at increased risk for severe illness for 14 days, whether you get tested or not. Self-monitor for COVID-19 symptoms; isolate and get tested if you develop symptoms. Follow all state and local recommendations or requirements. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 04/05/21 at 17:25:34 1E3E3C34293E5B0 wrote:
Get tested, if the test is Yes or No, does not matter, just get tested. THEN stay home for 7 days Quote:
Ya don't have it, Still stay home for 7 days ! Quote:
For how long ? Quote:
Wait, just said 7 days? Which is it ! Quote:
Outside of seeing a oblivious person, old, frail, etc. Should one ask the stranger in front of you in a line, close to you in a store isle, getting into a car parked next to you, etc. "Hey, you got Cancer, are you on any med's that suppress your immune system, etc, etc, etc," Yep CDC, like WHO, and several States DCS are just makein stuff up as they go along. All for the goal of taking another link out of the chain. Cause Ding-Dong said so. And Ding-Dong said so because, Ding-Dong was TOLD to say that ! Oh, why no comment on the, 'Papers Please', which the first paragraph was all about ? "...Constantly changing restrictions and guidelines leave many travelers unsure about how to travel between states and what will be required of them upon arrival..." |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/05/21 at 18:48:30 "Wait, just said 7 days? Which is it !" Even if you test negative, stay home and self-quarantine for the full 7 days. If you don’t get tested, stay home and self-quarantine for 10 days after travel. If you test negative stay home for 7 days. If you do not get tested stay home for 10 days. If your test is positive, isolate yourself to protect others from getting infected. "For how long ?" Good question. I would stay away until I test negative then go the 7 days. Outside of seeing a oblivious person, old, frail, etc. Should one ask the stranger in front of you in a line, close to you in a store isle, getting into a car parked next to you, etc. "Hey, you got Cancer, are you on any med's that suppress your immune system, etc, etc, etc," That's up to you. The recommendation is to stay away from those at higher risk. You do you. Yep CDC, like WHO, and several States DCS are just makein stuff up as they go along. Or they are making changes based off of data like they said they would. Just because people won't look at the information doesn't mean it doesn't exist and is not used. Not understanding the difference between 7 and 10 days based off of a positive test or no-test isn't the CDC's issue. They made adjustments and one can audit that information. Won't mean they are right but at least the information is there. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by oldNslow on 04/06/21 at 05:33:27 Quote:
Really. If I had told you, a year and a half ago, that, in a nation of 330 million individuals,the majority of those people would lock themselves in their houses for weeks or months on end and only venture out where they might meet other people if they tied a rag around their faces, and they would continue doing it up until right now, and will continue,until some self anointed "expert tells them it's OK to stop, would you have believed me? No one had to "enforce "this either. We did it to ourselves. All it took was a relentless campaign of FEAR. cui bono. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/06/21 at 05:42:32 Really. If I had told you, a year and a half ago, that, in a nation of 330 million individuals,the majority of those people would lock themselves in their houses for weeks or months on end and only venture out where they might meet other people if they tied a rag around their faces, and they would continue doing it up until right now, and will continue,until some self anointed "expert tells them it's OK to stop, would you have believed me? Yes. As a matter of fact Webstermark and I discussed this in May 2019 when we were talking about Martial Law. I very specifically said infection control protocols were in place, legally, and that getting people to volunteer is much, much easier than going house to house kicking in doors. The logistics of force-on-force in the US is ridiculous. I stated that mass-infection would be a much more efficient control method and that people would volunteer. "Agents approved for weaponization have short lifespan to eliminate mutation over time and have reliable vaccination. The objective is to get people to vaccinate voluntarily which means leaving their homes and communities to quarantine centers." http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1565698770/0 So yeah I would believe you if you said something similar to what I did almost 2 years ago. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/06/21 at 06:23:22 Aaand, look. Texans aren't dying. I have not worn a mask more than five or six times. Look at the numbers. States that have dropped it, and how about the one that never locked down? If it had been a bad thing, ohhh the fear freaks would have been tossing that around, but Christie Noem treated the People with dignity, didn't wreck the economy, The experts did not impress me. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/06/21 at 06:49:55 Aaand, look. Texans aren't dying. I personally boxed the dead Texans in Houston. Don't try to play this TX never had issues nonsense, there's plenty of dead bodies that counter your argument. Did every Texan die? No. Did more die than what is consistent with past years? Yes. Were millions projected to die? No. Do you claim that but show no actual reports or models? Yes. "I have not worn a mask more than five or six times" You are also the only known human to be exempt from the asymptomatic stages by your own admission. I wouldn't wear a mask either. Look at the numbers. States that have dropped it, and how about the one that never locked down? You mean look only at the numbers you like and leave out or ignore the ones you do not like. Explain Houston if C-19 was not more deadly than average. Explain all the nursing home deaths in NY, that you already agreed exist if C-19 was not more deadly than average. To say one North Dakota is an analogue for the entirety of the US is ridiculous. North Dakota didn't have an outbreak so that means Texas and NY did not also? When you cherry-pick the information you will look at you get the results you want. Nobody would impress me if I ignored the information I don't like and only looked at the parts I do. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by oldNslow on 04/06/21 at 08:15:17 Quote:
But you, like almost everyone else, ignore the question at the end of my post. cui bono Who benefits from ginning up all this fear ? What is the motive? It was a deliberate psychological campaign. Totally unnecessary to simply deal with a disease. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/06/21 at 08:47:28 "It was a deliberate psychological campaign. Totally unnecessary to simply deal with a disease." I don't agree. But I am not basing my opinion off internet and news articles but by being in labs, China, and command centers. If I was at home on the couch maybe my opinions would be different, but like I said to JoG, I went to TX, I boxed the dead, no internet article claiming its all made up and that its a "normal flu" will change my opinion on that. They don't put that many people in mobile morgues in a normal flu season. I do however understand that this forum is unique in the idea that people who read online articles here are more knowledgeable and capable than the people that do the actual jobs. Much like people who read only information they like about motorcycles are better at riding them than anyone that actually rides a motorcycle in real life. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 04/06/21 at 15:47:48 78585A524F583D0 wrote:
Did you perform the Autopsy on them? Or did you just 'Pack&Stack', with someone else telling you what they died of? |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/06/21 at 17:49:16 Did you perform the Autopsy on them? Or did you just 'Pack&Stack', with someone else telling you what they died of? Autopsies aren't performed on every person to determine cause of death and we all know that. I did not confirm every body was in the quarantined unit. The ratio of dead in the time period was higher than normal, the patient load was primarily C-19 patients. So could all of those bodies I packed be circumstantial auto accidents, seasonal flu, etc. etc. at rates never before seen? I can not confirm that did not happen, but to think Houston suffered a coincidental mass fatality from common means at the same time and rates that C-19 patients filled the medical centers seems like grasping at straws just to keep from acknowledging Texans died from C-19. But I am sure someone sitting at a computer far away will know more about what went on there than the people that actually did the work. Just like people that never shoot guns know more about them than people that sell or shoot them for a living. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 04/07/21 at 08:47:55 Quote:
LOL That happens EVERY SINGLE TIME, any PAID 'representative', of the person PAYING them, opens their mouth ! INCLUDING, the current POTUS !!!! With all the UL, DFI, FDS Socialists, that lick his AZZ. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 04/08/21 at 13:28:27 Quote:
A perfect example of that statement just occurred today by ‘Ding-Dong & HO-HO’s’, announcement. Which brings up the point, where are all the supporters, of the totally crooked, inept, socialist pocket stuffing puppets, called Ding-Dong and Ho-Ho ? Where are the tt/Clones to say how Wonderfull it is that in just 4 short months, Ding-Dong and Ho-Ho have delivered (or working hard at delivering), Freedom restriction, Economic reduction, Tax raises. Or are the UL, DFI, FDS’ing, flag bearers starting to realize, they ARE the ‘useful idiots’, !!! And will be the first to go to the gulag, when they complain about the current 100's of MORE atrocities, than ever was in the last 4 years. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/08/21 at 14:06:44 Go back to 2017 on this forum and the same things were said about Trump. You will have the same number of people agreeing with you about Biden as they did when they complained about Trump. Trump's tax model didn't help some and really helped others, Biden's will do the same. I posted Trump's tax plan, said it was Obama's and people griped about how it ruined the middle class. I posted the exact same tax plan, said it was Trump's and was told how it helped the middle class. Amazing how that work's when you won't even read what you propose is good or bad. I do however find it interesting that people who have never worked in epidemiology know more about people who have, but with guns it's the opposite. Why is it that people with zero experience with guns know less about guns, but people with zero experience with contagious disease know more? Why do people that have never been to Houston know more about what happened in Houston than the people that worked in Houston? Observed reality? |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 04/09/21 at 17:24:34 Quote:
Not even remotaly close. On this space, it was totally outnumbered as the UL, DFI, FDS, Socialists, did/posted what ever they wanted. And Conservative views got the boot ! (Now they GOT the Socialism they wanted, YET are NOW silent because they have finally realized they are first in line for the gulag, if they say anything against the current POTUS) (And AOC IS STANDING IN FRONT OF THAT LINE) The majority of the Population of the, CITIZENS, of the USA, is still in favor of Trump like governing/policies. It was the UN-documented, not Citizens, and the multiple voting that installed the Socialists, Ding-Dong and HO-HO ! |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/09/21 at 20:04:22 "Not even remotaly close. On this space, it was totally outnumbered as the UL, DFI, FDS, Socialists, did/posted what ever they wanted. And Conservative views got the boot !" I already went through all those posts and linked them in this thread here: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1612113976 I see a different outcome, I see a lot of Conservative posts still there in that timeframe. My point is asking people here to say they regret voting for Biden makes exactly the same amount of sense as people asking you to say you regret voting for Trump. When they asked that 4 years ago it made as much sense then as it does now. None. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 04/13/21 at 18:55:28 [quote] 0020222A3720450 wrote:
Most voting for Trump, believed, experienced, and saw results, and supported those policies. (except tweeting) All that voted for the 'Ding-Dong' will NOT, claim they voted wrong, EVEN though just 4 months in, they are hunkering down, knowing we got 3.7 years of SHGIT coming ! |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/13/21 at 19:34:23 "It was 3-1, Liberals to Conservatives." We need to define who you consider Conservative vs. Liberal and the specific timeframe so we can do the math. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 04/14/21 at 17:46:13 Quote:
…I can show you that one major thing that governments around the world are telling the people is a lie, you should take my 32 years of experienced opinion that says, most of it, if not all of it, is a lie… Says Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the industry leading new medicines research and retired from the pharmaceutical giant with “the most senior research position” in his field. …It’s a fallacy this idea of asymptomatic transmission and that you don’t have symptoms, but you are a source of a virus. That lockdowns work, that masks have a protective value obviously for you or someone else, and that variants are scary things and we even need to close international borders in case some of these nasty foreign variants get in. … …And, yes, certainly crossing an international border is the most obvious use for these vaccine passports, as they are called, but I’ve heard talk of them already that they could be necessary for you to get into public spaces, enclosed public spaces. I expect that if they wanted to, you would not be able to leave your house in the future without the appropriate privilege on your app…. Just type in: ‘Former Pfizer VP talks’, in your search engine. (I stopped at 35) |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/15/21 at 05:14:44 I'm familiar with Mike Yeadon. I have been following his SM for years. Why the sudden change in April? This guy wanted to stop clinical trials in May 2020. Really? This is like one motorcycle mechanic disagreeing with 500 other mechanics and refusing to offer what tools he used to work on the bike, the bike, the problem and what he used as a solution, but claims the bike is good to run. Would you get on that bike? He claimed C-19 in the UK is "effectively over" and 80,000 more people have died from it. He claimed, with zero provided evidence that C-19 vaccinations make women infertile. Where's the evidence? https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases I'm fine with his opinion but where is his evidence? Where are the infertile women? Why didn't cases level off or reduce? My observed reality fails to have infertile women and a reduction in C-19 cases in the UK. I will go with the people that provide clinical evidence, not the people at home on their couch claiming the evidence they won't look at is wrong, and an ex-drug employee that tweets and isn't in a lab. If he said "effectively over" and there was a considerable reduction that enforces his prediction I would be more inclined to take his information as fact. But until he provides them, it's opinion that so far has no factual backing in the real world. He said Sweden would not have a medical crisis or a "2nd wave" yet Sweden is in a wave of the highest use of critical medical care since WW2. Personally I do wonder if being let go from Pfizer has anything to do with all of this. This is an example of someone saying something we want to hear so we ignore the fact that he provides no evidence, and his predictions, so far, haven't come true. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 04/15/21 at 07:36:03 Quote:
So you believe he is full of it. Then tell me why I, (And Several MILLIONS of Others) are to believe/succumb to the likes of Dong-Dong, when he says, “…You Don’t need one of those…” And, “… Just shoot in the air …” And the legions of gun hating, anti-Freedom people/groups, That want to take away firearms ? When their is NO PROOF ! |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/15/21 at 08:05:11 Then tell me why I, (And Several MILLIONS of Others) are to believe/succumb to the likes of Dong-Dong, when he says, “…You Don’t need one of those…” And, “… Just shoot in the air …” And the legions of gun hating, anti-Freedom people/groups, That want to take away firearms ? I never said anything like that. I have actually, repeatedly, said the opposite. I said that people with no firearms knowledge and experience know less about firearms than those that use them. But for some reason people reading on the internet know more about corona virus than epidemiologists. Specifically the word epidemiologist and only the word epidemiologist with the exclusion of all other words. People with zero experience regarding the spread of disease for some reason know more than those that work in it, create it, fight it etc. Just like people that never went to Houston know more about what happened in Houston than the people working in Houston. Why is that? What makes guns different than a virus, or a hospital? |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 04/16/21 at 14:39:42 Quote:
Could very well be. In Fact, a great possibility that when employed by Pfizer, Pfizer Told Him, when to say, what to say, and how to say it. Now he can tell the truth ! You don't agree with Yeadon. Is it because Yeadon is in the class of, not knowing anything about the subject he speaks ? Is it because he does not state proof you want ? Is it because you just don't like want he is saying ? |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/16/21 at 20:40:44 You don't agree with Yeadon. It's not a matter of agreeing with him, I just don't agree that his predictions last April have come to fruition a year later. I do not ignore that Yeadon's predictions have not come true. I was ok with what he said until what he said never happened. Is it because Yeadon is in the class of, not knowing anything about the subject he speaks ? Not "anything" but he is considerably knowledgeable, however his statements changed in April. Not after he left Pfizer 8 years ago, just last April. He definitely knows more about C-19 than a person who is sitting on a couch somewhere that thought it was a bacteria or that they are immune because they have no symptoms. Is it because he does not state proof you want ? Not "want" as I don't "want" a specific kind of proof. I do however spend less time using information from people that say things and leave it with words alone than I do from people that say things and then provide information that supports what they said. For instance if somebody tells me owning a firearm is a protected right I will spend less time on their assessment than I will if somebody tells me the same thing and also offers written documentation, court cases, uses guns, has defended their use in court and have predicted the outcome of legislation or court cases accurately. Words are one thing, supporting documentation is another. The doctor JoG referenced here that "cured" 300 patients of C-19 using hydroxychloroquine has yet to offer one patient result. The lack of supporting information is important since anyone can say things and provide zero evidence. Absolutely anyone can do that. Is it because you just don't like want he is saying ? I don't place an emotional value to what he is saying. If he says the UK is effectively over C-19 and 80,000 more cases arise I won't choose to ignore the 80,000 additional cases. If he says Sweden will not have a medical shortage and Sweden has two waves of that exact thing, I will not ignore the two waves of medical care shortage. He offered predictions that did not come true. I do not like or dislike that, it is simply a fact. If someone predicts Trump will be back in office on April 4th and Trump is not in office April 4th I will attribute less value to statements from the same guy that says Trump will be in office on July 4. His predictions did not come true even though I have no preference on who is President on July 4. |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 04/19/21 at 16:51:47 Just to be clear. I am to wear 2 masks, Then Get Tested, Even if I have NO negative effects. Also I am suppose to get a shot, Or 2, and now THREE. Regardless if I have tested positive or not, Regardless if I have any symptoms. Then after a shot, or 2, or THREE STILL wear 2 masks. If I had a restaurant, I cannot place X amount of people in side, Yet I CAN place them outside, in a cover, which is just like inside. If I had a big box store, I can fill it up with people, Yet if I had a church, I cannot. If I had a Candy Store, (And a good buddy of the Gov) I can pack people in, belly to azz hole. Yet if I had a Family Reunion, Graduation, Funeral, Wedding, etc. Their are severe restrictions, and punishments for disobeying. If I am driving accost country, and stopped for a taillight out, And if don’t have my, ’Papers’, it is totally frowned upon, I may be violating State Laws. Yet if I was a Illegal Alien, AND NEVER TESTED, I could go anywhere I want with impunity ! And ON and ON and ON it goes. OK got it. (Golly Gee Wally, seems like someone want’s to control a person, Through FEAR) |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by MnSpring on 04/19/21 at 17:06:30 Quote:
'Changed', to not agree with your opinion ? OK Got it ! |
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Title: Re: Fear 4 Post by Eegore on 04/19/21 at 18:30:48 'Changed', to not agree with your opinion ? OK Got it ! No. You are intentionally, as usual, ignoring sections of my posts. If he had said vaccines don't work and then in April said vaccines do work, I would still say he "changed his statements" in April. My criteria for this is that his statements change and that they happen in April. Literally he said people should make the choice if they want to be vaccinated or not. Then in April he attempted to keep vaccinations from being made and that people should not get them. That's a pretty direct change in statement, as in the opposite and it happened in April. Don't pretend I said it was good or bad. Again: It's not a matter of agreeing with him, I just don't agree that his predictions last April have come to fruition a year later. I do not ignore that Yeadon's predictions have not come true. I was ok with what he said until what he said never happened. |
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