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Message started by MnSpring on 01/27/21 at 10:16:48

Title: Fear 3
Post by MnSpring on 01/27/21 at 10:16:48

Why the continued FEAR ?
The Socialist/pocket stuffing handlers,
   have already stole the election,
and put in their two puppets, (ding-dong & HO-HO)

Why are they so greedy ?
Do they want MORE FEAR,
So they can contain MORE Sheapol ?

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by MnSpring on 01/29/21 at 09:42:12

This could be a reason.
Yesterday gma did a ‘fluff’ piece about airline tickets.
In it was mentioned that now, no restrictions to fly domestically.
Yet it was, “Strongly", eluded that a, ‘proof’,
of c-19 vaccine was coming before one could fly.

Where did the phrase; “Paper’s Please” come from ???

If someone wants a sound bite reference,
Perhaps they could have someone else watch the show,
Then that person, who is a employee/student/minion create a link with that bit in it.

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/29/21 at 10:39:06

Are they demanding triple masks or just double?

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by MnSpring on 02/14/21 at 11:30:09

 
Absolutely no doubt, the vast majority of the, 'media', are not reporting the 'Acquittal' as just a happening.
They are reporting the acquittal was wrong and it should have been guilty.

The CDC are issuing 'vaccine papers', 'Officially' showing one was vaccinated.
Getting ready for, 'Papers Please', to do any kind of travel.

Anti Gun measures are popping up like Morels on a hot wet Spring day.

The new POTUS killed more jobs in one day, that the old POTUS CREATED new jobs in a month.

The new POTUS gave eligible Citizens in the US, $600.00, while giving the equivalent of 3-5 Thousand dollars to subjects, (in the form of foreign aid).

The Minimum raise will rise again,
YET,
the cost of Taxes will rise as well as consumer goods and intrust.
Effectually making the $10.00 a person gets now, into $8.00 a hour.

A-Yep gotta KEEP THAT FEAR GOIING,
so the Shepol stand in line.


Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/14/21 at 11:33:37

What is the reason for all the troops?
The fence?

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Eegore on 02/14/21 at 11:35:18


 They already publicly posted why the NG is there many times and for how long.

 I get that you don't agree but how many times do you need to hear the answer?

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/14/21 at 12:22:05

I didn't see it..
So, once should be good.

What is it?

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Eegore on 02/14/21 at 12:53:57


 They are staying until the conclusion of the impeachment trial and the collaborative intel indicates the groups staging in the areas around the Capitol have dispersed.

 It's not like they are saying a breach of the Capitol might happen someday, it's an issue of preventing it, and posturing more for outside entities than anything else I would say.

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/14/21 at 13:45:04

It's still abhorrent

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Eegore on 02/14/21 at 14:01:49

 If it were Trump and these were ANTIFA doing the exact same thing then it would be ok.

 A lack of response would be better somehow?

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/14/21 at 14:21:41

You can pretend it's the right who are dangerous.
Antifa  who did it on the sixth?
Released, no bail
Not Antifa?
No bail,,

Look what lefties are doing to Trump lawyer.

Can't wait for Cuomo to be arrested..

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Eegore on 02/14/21 at 14:43:12


 All humans are dangerous.

 Are you proposing it was not US Citizens that supported Trump that entered the Capital?  Are you proposing that it can not happen again and that's why the NG doesn't need to be there?

 I've never partaken in this blame-game people do on here about what side is committing more crime for a reason.  One, the data is always skewed and very poorly researched.  Like this information that if you were Antifa supporters on Jan 6th you didn't have to pay bail.  Give me a break, anyone can type that up, show me actual documents not lies anyone can dream up.

 Two, it doesn't matter because crime is crime and pre-incident indicators don't care what the political affiliation is.  


 As I said prior, I imagine a lot of this is posturing for things completely unrelated to things going on inside the US.  
 

 

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Mavigogun on 02/14/21 at 17:18:16


0424262E3324410 wrote:
As I said prior, I imagine a lot of this is posturing for things completely unrelated to things going on inside the US.  
 
 


Could you elaborate?

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Eegore on 02/14/21 at 18:30:25


 Foreign posturing.

"The celebration of democracy is over, America no longer forges that path, and consequently has lost its right to define it. Much less force it on others"  - Konstantin Kosachev, head of the Foreign Affairs Committee in Russia’s Federation Council

 This was a total embarrassment for the US in regards to international perception.  There is this whole stigma around how "protected" the US political staff are, how we use all this elaborate tech to find people, drones over the White House 24/7 etc. etc. and this event shows weakness.  It is propagandized by other countries, terrorist organizations are empowered by it, there's a lot of posturing the US will want to do to downplay the event.  

 Multi-state "solidarity" engagements are actually part of our national policy, I am not surprised National Guard from multiple States are sent in for this.  The multi-State National Guard response to DC was part of a full-scale exercise I was in years ago where a Chinese missile hit the USS Nimitz.  A damaged Carrier Group is something we can tactically adapt to, however things like China and Iran playing a loop of the crippled Nimitz coming into port would be very advantageous for their agendas.  

 This, to me, could be an attempt to show other countries we can get our sh!t together fast without killing a bunch of citizens, as well as a response to the collaborative intelligence regarding people in that area.

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/14/21 at 18:50:18

Our so called democracy was murdered by the stolen election.
THAT'S what they are talking about.

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Eegore on 02/14/21 at 19:35:45

 
 Well not everyone agrees the election was stolen.  Certainly not everyone overseas.    

 Bottom line no matter who you think won, it's unlikely that every decision is based exclusively around that issue.  If Trump used the NG for this reason it would be ok for you and the other side, whatever that is, would say it's a bad idea.

 There's a lot of moving parts and when they say the NG will be in DC until the trial is over and security risks have been assessed, I imagine that is what will happen.  Given the zero evidence I can bring to the table I don't expect my assessment on the appropriateness of the action means anything at all.

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by MnSpring on 02/15/21 at 07:53:58


5E7E7C74697E1B0 wrote:
 
 Well not everyone agrees the election was stolen.  Certainly not everyone overseas.  ...

Why does what someone,
who is not a Citizen of this Nation,
who pays no Taxes in or to this Nation,
who has no horse in the race concerning this Nation,

opinion matter ?

A opinion, sure,
'It is my opinion that now,
the Queen of the UK, CA, AS, is benevolent,
yet that Monarchy that Controls those Countries can suddenly change'

My OPINION,
    DOES NOT MATTER,
to the subjects in those Countries,
nor should it !!!!!

(The exception is if, one is from 'down under' then they can pontificate on how some other Nation should be run)




Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Mavigogun on 02/15/21 at 09:15:41

This is an easy question to answer: how our allies, friends, and enemies regard us has world- wide implications- both for how we are received,  and how those folks choose to comport themselves based on our model. Moreover, the perspectives of those removed from our factional fracas are an invaluable reflection on where we are at, where we are going; navigation requires external references.

While bigots reflexively reject feedback from outside their echo chamber, they, too, often look abroad for support from other ethno-nationalists for confirmation of prejudice.   As always, utility depends on a good faith desire to undersatand.

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Mavigogun on 02/15/21 at 09:18:48

(A reliable sign of a failed intellect: they attack the messenger when the message doesn't conform to their prejudice.   Of course,  that same failed intellect will take all critique as evidence of prejudice; for the bigot, truisms lose value, armoring against discovery, consideration.)

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Eegore on 02/15/21 at 09:53:43

"Why does what someone,
who is not a Citizen of this Nation,
who pays no Taxes in or to this Nation,
who has no horse in the race concerning this Nation,
opinion matter ?
"

 You are asking why the Head of the Foreign Affairs Committee in Russia’s Federation Council's opinion matters on a topic like Foreign Affairs?  

 Well because of their position on the international political stage they have influence on us and other parts of the world without the requirement of paying taxes or having citizenship, where your opinion or mine does not.  They do have a horse in the race, it just doesn't pay taxes or need citizenship to be on the track.


 Now let's look at what actually said and realize I never said it "matters" to begin with.


"A reliable sign of a failed intellect: they attack the messenger when the message doesn't conform to their prejudice."

 Yeah that's pretty normal here.  If you ask for clarification you are attacking their position, if you ask for evidence you are attacking their position, if you agree with part of it but not the math on one section and provide the numbers yourself with multiple references you are attacking their position.


Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Mavigogun on 02/15/21 at 11:16:05

Were they accountants, aeronautical engineers, bakers- really, anything with a performance linked to a product -they would be completely unemployable-

-but they are not: the product is sophistry, for which they are their own customer.   Success is measured not by truth, but by how well their sentiment is reflected.   In that, the likes of MnSpring perfectly depict their character- nothing is ever resolved or discovered, because such is not their purpose; the conflict is endless, because it is at cross purposes- one to affirm identity, the other to test and refine  common understanding.

“I am this.  I am THIS.  I AM THIS!”- in the flesh, we wouldn’t continue that non-conversation for more time than it took to navigate around the section of sidewalk they’ve encamped.

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by MnSpring on 02/15/21 at 12:45:50


636F78676961697B600E0 wrote:
...While bigots reflexively reject feedback from outside their echo chamber, ...
... A reliable sign of a failed intellect: they attack the messenger when the message doesn't conform to their prejudice. ...

What color is the Pot, calling the Kettle ?



Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Mavigogun on 02/15/21 at 13:09:01


767A6D727C747C6E751B0 wrote:
  Of course,  that same failed intellect will take all critique as evidence of prejudice; for the bigot, truisms lose value, armoring against discovery, consideration.


Right on cue with the predictably juvenile 'I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I' equivocation- as foretold, and as unnecessary to predict as the setting sun.    

Title: Re: Fear 3
Post by Mavigogun on 02/15/21 at 13:52:57

Here, an emblematic demonstration of MnSpring's affliction:


0625183B3922252C4B0 wrote:
 
The new POTUS gave eligible Citizens in the US, $600.00 *snip*

Those following along with reality realize the $600 relief payment was negotiated under the Trump adminstration, began disbursement before the inauguration,  and, like most all appropriations, was an act of Congress.   Of course, details like 'what is real' don't matter to MnSpring,  or his purpose, invariably to voice prejudice and tribal animus.

I KNEW immediately this to be an insipid proclomation, demonstrating both a lack of basic understanding of the record, and equal lack of care for truth- truth,  after all, being inconvenient to MnSpring's sentiment.    Despite that, my first reaction was "could this be true?   Could I have, however unlikely, completely misapprehended who the actors were, the function of our government,  and the sequence of events?"   I did not stop at wondering, though,  checking the record before drafting this response-

Because that is who I am.  Make no mistake, MnSpring: I do not accuse you of curiosity,  a capacity for self doubt, or integrity.   When I reflect on your character, I do not project my own qualities onto you.   I do not merely label your appearance,  but examine and describe the haecceity of your... kettle.




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