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Message started by IslandRoad on 01/16/21 at 19:58:21

Title: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by IslandRoad on 01/16/21 at 19:58:21

Hey guys, I'm kinda keen on the bars linked below. But I have doubts about whether they will work with stock cables, wires, brake line etc. (I reckon they're probably borderline). The page I've linked to includes a tech sheet with measurements for the bars: rise, pullback etc.

My bike is a 2014 and came stock with the tall risers and narrow drag bars.

Does anyone have enough experience with handlebars to offer an opinion on whether or not you think these bars will work?

Cheers

https://barcrafthandlebars.com.au/collections/1-handlebars/products/western-bars-1-handlebars


Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by Dave on 01/17/21 at 02:44:45

This are nice looking handlebars!

I am not sure about the cables - however I do know the knurled places on the handlebars will not line up with the riser clamps on the Savage.  Harley's use a wider spacing than the Savage has.  The cables for the Buckhorn handlebars are longer and may fit if the ones for the drag bars won't.

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by LANCER on 01/17/21 at 03:50:51

It would be a close call on the stock cables fitting with the taller bars.  You would need to get the new bars, mount them and if the stock cables will fit.
You can get bars with the same shape shape for a lot less than $230.
If you did need a new set of throttle/clutch/brake the new cost from Barnett is $350, yep they are a bit pricey.

Some folks buy cable parts and make their own for less.
Ask for input from them.

Bottom line is you need the new bars mounted to measure the new lengths needed for a new cable set either way you go, whether pre-made or DIY.

There is a proper way to measure for a really good fit; I can send that to you if you wish.  

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by gtenginerd on 01/17/21 at 05:44:57

I'd measure the current riser height and distance from riser to controls on the bars.

See how that compared to the bars you posted. You may get by with getting shorter riser and not have to mess with controls.

This is what I did, but bars aren't as high:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071DPZ7Z3/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HGSN27K/

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by Slowlane on 01/17/21 at 06:31:34

I am getting ready to do a handlebar change.  I have the brake hose, clutch cable awaiting delivery.  I already have the longer throttle cable and the handlebars.  They shipped the handlebars in about 2 days and they are very heavy and nicely made.   https://www.powersportsuperstore.com/collections/all-products/products/emgo-07-12520-1in-low-buckhorn-handlebar-dimpled-chrome

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by IslandRoad on 01/21/21 at 21:22:46

Hey guys, thanks for all the great feedback!!

@Batman, I agree they are good looking bars. And, they're exactly what I'm after. The seller offers options for metric or Imperial spaced knurling, or no knurling at all. So that should be fine. I did wonder about the cables for the buckhorn bars ... I'll keep that as an option.

@Lancer, Yeah, I agree it would be a close call. I'm currently running some Biltwell Z-Bars with a 6" rise. Everything is fine but the brake fluid line is at its maximum length with no weight on the front shocks. These bars have a 5.8" rise but more pull back. I reckon it would be close. And ... jeepers, the cost of new cables is expensive! The supplier's site does have a direct measurement from riser to control box, for comparison. I'll check that out and hope for some leeway. As for the cost of bars, here in Australia, everything is expensive ... luckily, I didn't buy the bike to save money  8-)

@gtenginerd, thanks for the tips. As I mentioned to Lancer, the site does offer a spec on distance from riser to controls, so I'll check that out. The risers you linked to look very similar in size to the stock risers for the buckhorn handlebars. Also, I've used the same bars (trackers) with some home made 40mm risers. That's the closest I've come to a perfect fit.

@Slowlane ... nice looking bars. Let us know how they feel once you get 'em on!





Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by Hiko on 01/22/21 at 01:48:03

ventura-bike.com make a wide range of bars and accessories for bikes
I have their low west bars on my bike

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by IslandRoad on 01/22/21 at 11:19:32


605546424A42270 wrote:
ventura-bike.com make a wide range of bars and accessories for bikes
I have their low west bars on my bike



Thanks! I'll check them out  :)

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by IslandRoad on 09/28/21 at 22:41:52

Well, I decided to give the bars ago. I'm really happy with them. I was right, they are right at the limit for the cables etc. (my bike came stock with the tall risers and narrow drag bars) I didn't need to modify anything.  I just had to reroute the cables and wires behind the front forks instead of in front of them. I was able to fit the switch boxes and levers through the gap by just turning the front wheel to full lock on each side.

At 32" they're the widest bars I've tried, and the have the most pull back I've tried. They're really comfortable and provide a really sound sense of control.

I know they were expensive but I've been trying for ages to find the right fit. It was money well spent.

Here are a couple of picks for anyone interested:


Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by IslandRoad on 09/28/21 at 22:43:32

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Post by IslandRoad on 09/28/21 at 22:44:32

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Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by Ruttly on 09/29/21 at 10:54:38

First off those bars are bada$$ , they look great !  Lengthen everything those cables are unsafe , we all have bad days you don’t need a automatic whiskey throttle. Brake hose & wiring too. IMO it’s worth it. Your bike looks very cool and those bars are a must for it.

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by Ruttly on 09/29/21 at 10:57:24

Hey where did you get those rings on the rear fender where you removed the eyebrows ?

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by verslagen1 on 09/29/21 at 18:21:35

I found some on ebay a long time ago.

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by IslandRoad on 09/29/21 at 21:21:32


46616060786D140 wrote:
Hey where did you get those rings on the rear fender where you removed the eyebrows ?



They're just some eye-bolts (M8) that I got from the hardware store. I used Button style, Allen Key bolts on the inside because my back tyre is a little wider than stock. I also stuck a bit of adhesive weather-strip on the base of the rings to prevent scratching ... that worked with limited results ::)

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by IslandRoad on 09/29/21 at 21:24:46


705756564E5B220 wrote:
First off those bars are bada$$ , they look great !  Lengthen everything those cables are unsafe , we all have bad days you don’t need a automatic whiskey throttle. Brake hose & wiring too. IMO it’s worth it. Your bike looks very cool and those bars are a must for it.



Thanks for the feedback Ruttly, I always appreciate your perspective  ;D

What makes you say the cables etc are unsafe?

I went over them all and there is a little bit of play in all of them at full lock in both directions. Also nothing gets pinched between the forks and the tank.

I assume you're seeing something I'm not!

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by Ruttly on 10/01/21 at 11:39:11

Clutch cable looks ok , but the throttle cable looks tight in the pics. Just lookin after you , maybe a throttle cable from a buckhorn bar model might be longer. Lancer might know he sells the carb kits. The bike has sexy shapes & lines. I would get the wiring up on the bars for a cleaner look too. Guess I gotta find me a low mile Savage when I finish the tracker. Maybe a single seat then trash it up with some leather saddle bags & tool bag on the forks but otherwise lookin like your bike. Sharing knowledge and ideas is why this is a great website.

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by Ruttly on 10/01/21 at 11:41:33

How wide are those bars ?

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by Ruttly on 10/01/21 at 11:48:31

Maybe a small useless mirror on the bars too. I realize everybody’s tastes are different , motorcycles are a very personal thing.

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by IslandRoad on 10/02/21 at 00:48:52


4B6C6D6D7560190 wrote:
How wide are those bars ?



32"

Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by IslandRoad on 10/02/21 at 00:57:18


745352524A5F260 wrote:
Maybe a small useless mirror on the bars too. I realize everybody’s tastes are different , motorcycles are a very personal thing.



The mirror I have on there is smaller than it looks. It's only 3" diameter which is quite a bit smaller than street legal here in Australia. It took me ages to find that mirror online!! I believe it's based off an old style Honda mirror.

I did try some tiny black bar end mirrors (They must be something like less than 2" diameter). Very nice looking in their own right but I didn't like how they looked on these bars. Plus, they are incredibly convex ...  so a car that was sitting on my tail literally looked about 50 metres behind me. I found that very disconcerting.

You mentioned the throttle cable looks tight (thanks for watching my back!). I can confirm it's not tight. I rotated it to near vertical from the switch box to tidy up the look. There's plenty of excess there.

I really am stoked with these bars.

Oh, one last point about them. They're Stainless Steel not Chrome. So they can scratch more easily but can also be polished back up. What I like most is they have a slightly darker sheen than the 'white' sheen that chrome throws off. Getting into minute detail here ... but I find it fun  ;D


Title: Re: These bars and stock cables etc?
Post by ohiomoto on 10/06/21 at 16:29:11

Those look great on your bike.  Nice find.   My LSL Flat Track bars are 33" wide but a little lower I think.  

https://revivalcycles.com/products/lsl-flat-track-steel-handlebars-1

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