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Title: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroyed'. Post by eau de sauvage on 01/06/21 at 12:54:20 http://https://i.postimg.cc/fRQZ2dgQ/lg.jpg https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/727604522156228608 Lost the House in 2018 Lost the Presidency in 2020 Lost the Senate in 2021 |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by zevenenergie on 01/06/21 at 13:59:10 I live in europe in the netherlands, one of the richest countries in the world, and we have been looking for years with amazement at how corrupt your government is and that you do not see that. Admittedly, we think Trump is a strange precident, but we do see that he is right about the elections. I see it differently myself. I see what's really going on in the world. That's because I'm lucky to have highly educated people in my immediate area. both on a scientific and on a spiritual level. I have people around me who have contacts with world leaders. so I hear a thing or two. You cant imagine how inportent it is, that Trump stays precident. Forget the so-called democracy, because that means nothing in your country. What you are trying to protect is a group of corrupt people who serve interests that have nothing to do with democracy. You must fight with everything you have in you for your constitution and voters integrity, because that is the foundation of your well-being. If you don't put an end to government corruption, your country will be taken from you. China has you by the balls big time. And the media wont tell you that. They are also controlt by china. But you don,t know that.... yet. But you will. And Trump wil a can put an end to that. He will go in history als the best precident ever.... It is good against evil. In the broadest sense of the word. Pray for humanity. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/06/21 at 19:27:49 A rare one,,, correct, Trump is the best we've seen,, these lefties pretend that Republicans against Trump are against Trump because Trump is wrong. No, they are against Trump because Trump is exactly right, and honorable and working to root out corruption. And the people against Trump ARE the corrupt.. That is why he's opposed by those who Should be his allies.. Biden,, REALLY? FUKKIN FIFTY YEARS IN DC,,and NOW he's gonna FIX STUFF? IDIOTS, HE'S NOTHING BUT CORRUPT.. AND YOU'RE TOO STUPID TO SEE IT. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by eau de sauvage on 01/06/21 at 23:03:16 “He screwed his supporters, he screwed the country and now he’s screwed himself,” said a 2016 Trump campaign official, predicting his former boss would cease to remain a popular figure in GOP politics after Wednesday. “Donald Trump caused this insurrection with lies and conspiracy theories about the election being rigged against him,” said Scott Jennings, a former aide to President George W. Bush who is close to the Trump White House. “The election was not stolen but this madness was fomented by the president and his top advisers.” He has also screwed the GOP. He began with his "American Carnage" speech and he ended with actual American carnage. 4 dead, so far. He is the complete loser. He also screwed McConnell who is now the minority leader in the Senate. Meaning that Biden could appoint Merrick Garland as Attorney General, something that McConnell vowed to oppose. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by eau de sauvage on 01/07/21 at 01:30:46 She died wrapped in a Trump flag. Her blood is directly on Trumps tiny hands. Trump supporters remind me of cult members, tell them the world will end and they will believe anything. I think what is so appealing to Trump about these people is that they are even more stupid than him. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ9oThRuMVs[/media] |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by eau de sauvage on 01/07/21 at 01:34:26 McConnell said of Obama that "I'll make him a one term president by not passing any bills" McConnell's plan was to use his Senate majority to screw the USA so Biden will look bad, that's why you didn't get any more stimulus cheques. Remember the GOP is very concerned about the deficit. Not when the GOP are in control only when the Democrats are in. Now that the Democrats have the Senate thanks to the eternal loser Trump, y'all will see for yourselves if 'socialism' destroys the America you love. On behalf of the rest of the world, we thank the people of Georgia. Australia averted the 2009 recession by providing the necessary stimulus. I hope you all get your $2000 cheques soon, I'm sure you'll do better for the economy than the tax cuts to business who simply used their windfall to buy back their own stock. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by zevenenergie on 01/07/21 at 06:05:15 [quote author=4F5D494A5D5B593C0 link=1609966460/0#4 date=1610011846]She died wrapped in a Trump flag. Her blood is directly on Trumps tiny hands. Trump supporters remind me of cult members, tell them the world will end and they will believe anything. I think what is so appealing to Trump about these people is that they are even more stupid than him. They are not stupid, they have an other opinion then you. This woman's blood is on many hands, and probably yours and mine too. She fought for her ideals and that is worth something. let us not misuse her for our ideals. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by WebsterMark on 01/07/21 at 15:31:41 7C6E7A796E686A0F0 wrote:
Trump saved Lindsey Graham’s seat this last election and Graham dumped him. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by eau de sauvage on 01/07/21 at 23:36:51 Results do not bear that out. Republicans did well all down the lower ticket, picked up about 10 seats, almost retook the House, whereas Trump lost by 7 million votes. On the other hand Trump went all out for Perdue and Leoffler and even though Loeffler crawled up Trumps ass by declaring she'd vote against certifying, Trump came back and then said "I'm glad they lost, because they didn't do enough to support me." Everything is transactional for Trump and then in the end he screws everyone. Not only has he destroyed the GOP, this last bit of insurrection has just put himself in deep deep sh!t, he will not only not be able to pardon himself, but he won't be able to resign and have Pence pardon him either. Latest news the rioters at his rally like their Blue Lives Matter, bullsh!t yet 50 police were injured yesterday and one just died. This is apart from the four dead protesters. And also in spite of the police opening doors for them. The rioters bashed police with their own barricades. What happened to 'when the looting starts the shooting starts? Oh that's right, they're only trashing the capitol building while the vice president and the Senate are cowering behind the benches with only the Senate ante room between the rioters and them. Law and order, law and order, we are the party of law and order. The truth always comes out in the end. This is insane that everyone knew this was coming and you actually have these people easily ransack the Capitol building. Compare and contrast to the BLM demos. This is white privellege in action. This is what racism in America looks like. Any sympathy that any of the GOP had for Trump is gone and he is going to have a hurricane of lawsuits facing him. Can't wait for the attempted self pardon. Can you imagine the Supreme Court allowing that? That would mean any future President can do anything, absolutely anything he/she wants with total and complete impunity. Can't see that being given a green light, can you? Oh let's not forget how the Stock Market will crash if Biden is elected, after he was finally confirmed yesterday it immediately went to it's highest mark and that's because they know that there will be financial stimulus. Also remember how no one will be talking about covid covid covid...etc, yet there's been over 4,000 deaths each day the past two days which is insanity. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by zevenenergie on 01/08/21 at 03:55:28 Naturally, the figures on the stock markets go up. The finance markets and the large corporations drive this country and determine everything that is done. And that is why there is no democracy in your country. And that process is now taking place in our country. The citizens have les and less to say. Companys became way to powerful. Consider what is happening in india under the guise of corona measures to protect the population. Only the big companies benefit from the measures. That is what is coing on. It also happens in my country, where freedom is still very important. we are being restricted on all fronts Democracy has become a show. And tump got to know that show from the inside out, and didn't take it. What more do you want as a voter? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by WebsterMark on 01/08/21 at 04:22:31 You’re wrong. (And didn’t you actually confirm my point?....) Graham believed his re-election was in serious doubt and Trump talked him up. Turned out, the pollsters lied and Graham won comfortably riding on Trump’s coattails. The cowardly fxxks jumping ship with two weeks to go are pathetic. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by eau de sauvage on 01/08/21 at 14:12:59 The cowardly fxxks jumping ship with two weeks to go are pathetic. Lol. Pence licks Trump's boots every day for 5 years and is responsible for making him palatable to the evangelicals, then at the final moment he does what he has no choice not to do and counts the votes and Trump trashes him. Trump debases the US for 5 years, and cheers on white supremecists the entire time, then after inciting and facilitating the storming, vandalising and terrorising of the Capitol bldg while giving obvious instructions to tone down the response, he then has no choice but to read from a script without deviating for the first time due to the serious sh!t that he done and says that those who broke the law will pay, and guess what... Donald Trump fans cry betrayal as he rebukes Capitol violence On Parler and 4chan Trumpists write of feeling ‘like puking’ as president says those who ‘broke law will pay’ Nevertheless they prompted an outpouring of anger, grief and denial from his hardline acolytes. “A punch in the gut,” said one. “A stab in the back,” another railed. From a third: “I feel like puking.” A widely shared screengrab summed up the sentiment: “He says it’s going to be wild and when it gets wild he calls it a heinous attack and middle-fingers to his supporters he told to be there.” https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/08/trump-incites-anger-among-acolytes-let-down-by-lack-of-support |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by eau de sauvage on 01/08/21 at 15:50:50 more lulz. http://https://i.postimg.cc/Nj9z0R6H/twit.jpg |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by eau de sauvage on 01/09/21 at 18:25:52 Predictably Tucker Carlson and various other morons in the GOP immediately start to limply imply that the riot was started by radical Antifa operatives. LOL. Oh yeah it's all antifa. How stupid are these people. This mob was all Trump's and this is the racist white nationalist dish!ts that he panders to. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by WebsterMark on 01/10/21 at 06:18:38 No they did not and you’re lying again. Were there antifa people there determined to start crap knowing full well the marketing arm of The Democratic Party would blame that on Trump? That’s a reasonable possibility. Did Tucker say they were to blame? No. In fact he said the opposite but that doesn’t. Like the fine people hoax in Charlottesville, all you have to do is have marketing repeat it through various outlets over and over, and enough believe it. You’re just a free conduit. You should at least send them a bill for your services. I don’t blame anyone except the people who invaded the building. I don’t blame the cop for killing that woman. If you invade the US Capitol and try to climb through a broken out window when a cop on the other side is telling you to stop, you’ve willingly entered “the ring” and whatever happens, happens. Same with those 3 people shot in Kenosha. It’s not Trump’s fault, it’s not Cruz’s fault and it’s not Hawley’s fault. It’s not the Capital police fault. Conservatives don’t riot like leftist scum so no one was prepared for this. It’s terribly disappointing that they did. On that note, the nationwide manhunts for them and the upcoming legal consequences they’ll face is ridiculous. Antifa, BLM destroy anything and anyone in their path with virtual impunity. Yes, we have a Civil War brewing. I see no escaping it now. I don’t know what form it will take, but it’s coming. Given the initial speeches from the illegitimate Harris/Biden administration on the topic, they’re pushing it closer. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by zevenenergie on 01/10/21 at 06:52:43 Oh yeah it's all antifa. How stupid are these people. This mob was all Trump's and this is the racist white nationalist dish!ts that he panders to. [/quote] How dear you to call people supid. It is pure self-righteousness. Only because other people see it differently they are considered crazy or idiots. That is the greatest disease of our time. And that is also the breeding ground of the emerging civil war. You can not go that way, PERIOT >:( I say this because otherwise we need a civil war to wake up and that would be a shame ;) GATE GATE PARAGATE PARASAMGATE BOHDISVAHA |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/10/21 at 08:11:27 That is their disgusting little game. They label something perfectly natural and good as something ugly. Wanting to see America stop getting screwed is RACIST. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by zevenenergie on 01/11/21 at 01:50:05 Yeah, but it's nobody's fault. And you have to be, the way you want the world to be. Because if you are not that yourself, you cannot expect someone else to be like that. What we've seen happen in the past week is the big shaking And it's getting worse. If you stay in your head now with all your ideas, with all the emotions associated with them, then in the time and events that are to come, you cannot get out of it. What is happening in your country is happening all over the world. But because all eyes are on you, very few people get it. Amirka is the epic center of a worldwide event. It is a spiritual crisis, which is the basis of political crises. We are now slaves to our thinking and can live the freedom of the heart. The mirror of this is: That an economic war is going on. And if we do not recognize it, because we all reside in our private world of thought, then measures will soon be implemented whereby we all become slaves to an economy that is ruled by a very small group. The danger comes from the big corporations, and from China. If you want, I would like to explain that, but I want to emphasize that we are in a spiritual crisis and that we have to fight for everyone so that everyone comes out as the winner and you do that through leaving your childish structure of thoughts, opinions and emotions. And leave that upstairs room empty so that you start to feel the heart, and become interactive and start looking and acting from there. I would rather focus on the tools you need to do that, than propagate a political point of view. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/11/21 at 07:57:51 want to emphasize that we are in a spiritual crisis I know I've known for years David didn't have a Moment and compromise The American people have been split apart The ones who have declared good evil And evil good Versus the rest of us. We have acquiesced, in order to avoid violence They no longer are willing to Live and let live They want Uuuunity They s No, they want submission They want to force us to agree with them Trump is Pro American His policies turned America around He's gonna drag us into WARS!! He's gonna fire nukes!!! Wrong at every turn, and unwilling to see it. Think Brennan is an American? Frikken absolute communist running the CIA under Obama. The absolute WORST president, by far, Obama. You can preach peace and I will hope for it, but I don't think the left are going to allow it. Anyone who can continue to believe George Floyd was killed by the cops after the evidence was presented lies to themselves and pretends their actions are justified. The Mostly Peaceful protests destroyed lives and who knows how many millions of dollars. Calling the Patriots who invaded places RIOTERS is a load. The left stole the election. This is not gonna end well, If it's peaceful then half of America will be subjugated and our rights stripped away. The trajectory of our society has been one of steady downhill , spiraling to the left, since I was a kid. One day it augers in. Anyone care to point out again just how wrong I've been saying They intend to disarm the people? Yeah, play your sick game some more.. Oh, they only want to take that kind of gun.. Pretending THAT would affect the number of deaths in Chicago,, When it won't And even if it would Free People have a right to protect themselves. The right of the People to keep and bear arms Shall not be infringed.. So you believe John Q. Public should have tanks and bombs and missiles??? Don't even try it. Not playing the obfuscate and deflect game. Don't forget A rising tide lifts all ships. The direction of the left is destructive to every person. It's obvious by just being exposed to history. What the left want has been done, too many times, for anyone to not understand the results of those choices. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/11/21 at 09:12:04 Anyone care to point out again just how wrong I've been saying They intend to disarm the people? What would you accept as evidence? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/11/21 at 09:56:21 How obvious does it need to be for you to see what they want? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/11/21 at 10:49:45 "How obvious does it need to be for you to see what they want?" So is there anything you would accept as evidence to the question you asked? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/11/21 at 14:00:03 Having had time to stop laughing, Yes!!! When Biden starts telling us about the removal of current restrictions and starts threatening us with removing rights crushing restrictions, I'll agree that there is not a push to restrict our freedoms. IIRC beto was very specific in saying You bet we're coming for your guns. And I'm pretty sure ol Biden said I want you to be my gun czar... Show me I'm wrong.. You say you have fought for the second amendment.. Why was that necessary unless someone had worked against our rights? Every single piece of legislation needs to have a footnote showing exactly where in the constitution the authority to enact that legislation exists and every monetary outlay needs it's own bill. No more Poison Pill legislation.. Go ahead, pretend you don't know what that means. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by eau de sauvage on 01/11/21 at 17:35:46 Racist ideology, is the warp upon which the weft of American society is woven. The final fabric is reinforced with an interface of denialism. This is America. To reflect that this level of destruction and mayhem could so eaility occur at the very seat of government, like some 'sh!ithole' country is impossible to believe. But there is it. These rioters could not have done this without the support of enough police both in commission and omission. Two excellent articles in the consistently excellent Atlantic. One on Denialism as the Beating Heart of America, and the other on The Conservative Cult of Victimhood. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/denial-heartbeat-america/617631/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/conservatism-reaches-dead-end/617629/ |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/12/21 at 12:18:25 Gun sales are the highest they have ever been. The Second Amendment is in full swing, practiced more than ever. Americans are practicing this right more than ever. Show me I'm wrong.. Bottom line is yes, there is going to be some attempts to restrict gun ownership. I have not seen evidence besides one disaster recommendation nobody took serious, that is indicating all guns get taken away. If indeed that is what "disarm" means. The real answer is somewhere between no restrictions and all restrictions. But to answer any questions we need some parameters and definitions as to what we think certain words mean, and what we will accept as evidence. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/12/21 at 16:25:57 Semiautomatic rifles are very low in the world of crime committed. Sure seems to be a focal point for the control freaks. You understand Why gun purchases are so high? Crowd of Antifa freaks gathers outside Powell’s Books in downtown Portland to demand that the book Unmasked: Inside Antifa’s Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy by Andy Ngo be pulled from the store’s website. This follows an announcement on Monday by Portland’s iconic book seller, that it would not place Unmasked on shelves, but that the book will remain in its online catalog. Because tyrants are threatening people. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by eau de sauvage on 01/12/21 at 18:47:40 That is their disgusting little game. They label something perfectly natural and good as something ugly. Wanting to see America stop getting screwed is RACIST. No, this is your disgusting little game. Crying victim and denialism. See above articles. My mistake earlier I said it was Carlson who said it was "antifa" when it was in fact Hannity who claimed that. The whole point of having guns is to stop an insurrection against the government yet here you all are playing the same games ad nauseam. |
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Title: it's like magic Post by eau de sauvage on 01/19/21 at 14:10:12 http://https://i.postimg.cc/LXTtd54P/jail.jpg |
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Title: Gold medal idiocy of the 'mob'. Post by eau de sauvage on 01/19/21 at 14:19:01 How fcuking stupid are these insurrectionist cosplay morons. They find Ted Cruz' binder and it says That he's objecting to the Arizona count and they don't understand that is 'a good thing' then they get together and try to figure it out, is this a good thing or not a good think. Starts at 3:16 https://i.postimg.cc/LXTtd54P/jail.jpg |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by eau de sauvage on 01/19/21 at 23:25:06 whoops wrong link above. This is the video that starts at 3:16 showing his insurrectionists not knowing if something if Ted Cruz did a good thing or a bad thing... fast forward to 3:16 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mQgICiHJ_c[/media] |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/20/21 at 13:19:27 So the lefty desire ISN'T to remove the second amendment. That people are engaging in exercising it NOW is somehow Proof it's Not under attack? Really? Hyperintelectualize the obvious in order to obfuscate what is happening. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/20/21 at 16:19:45 "That people are engaging in exercising it NOW is somehow Proof it's Not under attack? Really?" What will you accept as evidence? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/20/21 at 18:42:24 Proposed legislation to remove unconstitutional laws against the rights of Americans would be good. Ask me again. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/20/21 at 19:53:52 Ok so how do you define "disarm Americans"? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by eau de sauvage on 01/21/21 at 00:41:17 I love the way the looney right which is most of the GOP, cite 'the constitution' and 'law and order' all the time, the two things they sh!t on the most. 'Constitution' they whine as they try to upend the Constitution in the Capitol, 'Law and Order' they cackle as they cheer on armed insurrectionists who beat cops to death with fire extinguishers and walk through the halls wanting to kill politicians. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/21/21 at 01:24:09 4C6C6E667B6C090 wrote:
Diminish our rights to weapons. Placing taxes on bullets to make owning them more difficult, Changing rules to outlaw things. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/21/21 at 16:45:10 "Diminish our rights to weapons. Placing taxes on bullets to make owning them more difficult, Changing rules to outlaw things." Alright that makes more sense as I define it as no gun ownership, and there is no legislature for that. Gun ownership will be legislated as long as suicide and crime is committed with guns. As long as there is a victim, there will be high enough numbers to change law since it's easy to impulse vote based off emotion and not statistics. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/22/21 at 18:10:25 Lefties,Pelosi, most obviously and notably, want them all. Your need for current legislation is confusing. How are you unwilling to hear the words of politicians who are absolutely hostile to gun ownership? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/22/21 at 22:00:21 "Your need for current legislation is confusing. How are you unwilling to hear the words of politicians who are absolutely hostile to gun ownership?" It's just like saying Trump doesn't mean literally everything he says. As in he doesn't literally mean to grab women by their pu$$y. If I am going to go to court to block legislation, I need there to be legislation to block. I can't go to court and block words. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/22/21 at 23:11:40 So there are not a number of people sworn to protect and defend the constitution who want Mr and Mrs America to Turn them all in. Pretending that is not a reality is your choice. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/23/21 at 00:09:21 "So there are not a number of people sworn to protect and defend the constitution who want Mr and Mrs America to Turn them all in." Depends on what you mean by that. Can they do that without legislation? What would be the method? Walk door to door themselves and demand guns? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Serowbot on 01/23/21 at 10:02:21 Is anyone here a member of a "well regulated militia", dedicated to defending our government rather than attacking it? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by verslagen1 on 01/23/21 at 11:58:31 Anyone use a gun at the capitol riot other than a "peace" officer? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by MnSpring on 01/23/21 at 13:57:01 2C3A2D30283D302B5F0 wrote:
Would that be the Government; That want’s to take away freedoms, That is controlled by the dark side, That uses Citizens to simply stuff their own pockets, That steals elections, That has has ding-dong, and a Ho-Ho as figureheads? Or is that the Government that started to, ‘drain the swamp’ ? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by MnSpring on 01/23/21 at 14:26:39 150611100F0204060D52630 wrote:
Which leads to the question. What would happed to someone, who shoots and Kills a person, where their is no fear for life? "... this is how we will die, with thunderous applause ..." A line from a movie |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/23/21 at 14:48:35 What would happed to someone, who shoots and Kills a person, where their is no fear for life? Quoted Because it needs to be |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/23/21 at 22:02:29 "What would happed to someone, who shoots and Kills a person, where their is no fear for life?" Depends on the laws in the area where the activity took place, the quality of the investigation and the following prosecutorial process. In CO you do not need to have a fear of death to utilize deadly force, so it's essentially a coin-flip as to what will happen. The actor has reasonable ground to believe, and does believe, that he or another person is in imminent danger of being killed or of receiving great bodily injury; [ch8201]or (b)[ch8194]The other person is using or reasonably appears about to use physical force against an occupant of a dwelling or business establishment while committing or attempting to commit burglary as defined in sections 18-4-202 to 18-4-204 ; [ch8201]or (c)[ch8194]The other person is committing or reasonably appears about to commit kidnapping as defined in section 18-3-301 or 18-3-302 , robbery as defined in section 18-4-301 or 18-4-302 , sexual assault as set forth in section 18-3-402 , or in section 18-3-403 as it existed prior to July 1, 2000, or assault as defined in sections 18-3-202 and 18-3-203 . |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by MnSpring on 01/24/21 at 14:03:48 4C6C6E667B6C090 wrote:
Considering the CO law is, totally IRRELEVANT ! Question is, why can a WH police, shoot and kill someone. And not meeting the requirements of the DC law, no inquiry. Could it possibly be, 'ding-dong' & 'Ho-Ho' coming into office, and telling, (because someone else told them), what to NOT do ? "...In terms of self-defense, D.C. has a law that states a person can defend themselves when they truly believe that they're in danger of bodily harm or death. However, the law also states the person is required to take reasonable measures by stepping back or walking away. ..." |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/24/21 at 15:23:00 So what you mean is specifically in DC, and Law Enforcement, which you left out of your original statement. What would happed to someone, who shoots and Kills a person, where their is no fear for life? ...In terms of self-defense, D.C. has a law that states a person can defend themselves when they truly believe that they're in danger of bodily harm or death. However, the law also states the person is required to take reasonable measures by stepping back or walking away. ... If you are referring to law enforcement this is completely IRRELEVANT. DCPD and Capital Police do not have to take reasonable measures to "walk away". So if you mean "a person" that has no civic contract, and specifically in "D.C." then the above is correct. Otherwise you need to use DC law as it applies to law enforcement. "And not meeting the requirements of the DC law, no inquiry." Where was it stated that there is no inquiry? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/24/21 at 15:43:35 This video shows the exercising their Constitutional right of peaceful assembly in which Babbit was killed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWMpTHLJXbw&has_verified=1&bpctr=1611533288 Having been in situations where I have to decide if I should pull the trigger I will not comment on the actionable morality of this, also since I do not know DC law and USCP policy regarding the use of force and proximity or property it is not my place to say what should have happened. However I imagine law enforcement in DC are not required by law to walk away. What I can say is this is not in my opinion a Constitutionally protected action, or protected in any other way that she was engaged in. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/26/21 at 15:47:14 But watching the blm destroying things without consequences was dandy. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/26/21 at 17:37:17 BLM, ANTIFA, they should be held equally accountable. Unfortunately prejudice keeps us in a victim mindset a lot of times. To BLM the Proud Boys get away with more crime. To Proud Boys its BLM that gets away with more crime. If it was an ANTIFA girl killed in the Capitol there wouldn't be as much scrutiny coming from Trump supporters. That's just how things go. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by MnSpring on 01/27/21 at 10:24:51 1C3C3E362B3C590 wrote:
What about 4 Mpls MN police. Don't think they Shot anybody. They just were doing what they were taught to do. And that resulted in, What ? And Jan 6 in DC, resulted in What ? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/27/21 at 16:40:13 What about 4 Mpls MN police. Don't think they Shot anybody. They just were doing what they were taught to do. If comparisons to CO law is "IRRELEVANT" then I would say comparisons to the other 49 states are as well. Given my limited knowledge of law enforcement policy I would be very surprised if Capitol Police had directives to "walk away" from crime and criminal activity, no matter what MN police do right or wrong, or if internal investigations are done. It's like saying in CO I saw a law being broken by the police so all police in the country break laws and do not get investigated. Bottom line is I can't say what the directive in the capitol was that day and I will assume nobody on the forum does either. If I were told by OC "Nobody breaches the stack of chairs" then I imagine I would shoot if I was the lead operator, but I have also never had to fire on civilians in the US. If ROE were left completely open then I might not have, but I can say a video being viewed from the safety of my home provides zero assistance in assessing what I should do if I were in that situation. "And Jan 6 in DC, resulted in What ?" I am aware of investigation however you indicate there is not any inquiry. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by verslagen1 on 01/27/21 at 19:59:20 capitol police chief: word on the street is there's going to be trouble. I'm going to need the guard. pelosy: suck it up buttercup, they're only republicans, you can handle it. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by zevenenergie on 01/28/21 at 04:43:13 She swallows. :) |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by MnSpring on 01/28/21 at 05:52:06 2606040C1106630 wrote:
Can you provide a path to the news, covering that investigation/inquiry, which is far, Far, FAR above the standard inquiry of every Police shooting ?? Is it 24/7, for over a month like when a cop shot a person in Mpls, where that person said he had a gun, then reached for something, when the Cop told him twice not to, (ON TAPE) ??? Was the Cop put on trial by a self admitted DRUNK, (and acquitted) ???? Has her family received several hundreds of thousands of dollars from numerous sources ????? Has her boyfriend been given the task of being the head of a 12 Million dollar fund ?????? Was her boyfriend on every possible available means of assistance ??????? Please provide the source of your information. |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/28/21 at 09:32:07 "Can you provide a path to the news, covering that investigation/inquiry, which is far, Far, FAR above the standard inquiry of every Police shooting ??" Lets define what "the standard" is for this topic first. What is it to you, since my standard may differ from yours. To me, my standard for "the news" is zero since it's not regulated or audited and is privately owned. So the assessment that any one topic is equally covered by all "news" sources is simply not anything I would ever consider to happen. It's like asking every trucking company to haul the same items in equal amounts thus neglecting their client base, geographical locations and means of profit. "Is it 24/7, for over a month like when a cop shot a person in Mpls, where that person said he had a gun, then reached for something, when the Cop told him twice not to, (ON TAPE) ???" What I do know is none of that was covered in CO, since CO has very little incentive to cover MN news. So I would say no there is not 24/7 coverage on any news story in any location on any topic at this time. Is any crime replicated exactly the same including prosecutor's drinking habits, victims families' finances, boyfriend's tasks or means of assistance? Do you really expect any crime to replicate these exact events? "Please provide the source of your information." You mean like you continually refuse to do? You want to hold me accountable for TT's bullsh!t behavior then remove that standard from yourself? Sure I can provide reference for what I said and exclusively for what I said with the exclusion of all other things typed here: I am aware of investigation however you indicate there is not any inquiry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhioRgFztrA https://www.foxnews.com/us/investigation-shooting-death-ashli-babbitt-capitol https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-01-11/2-capitol-police-officers-suspended-1-arrested-amid-investigation-into-cooperation-with-mob https://thehill.com/homenews/house/533137-capitol-police-officer-who-shot-woman-in-capitol-placed-on-leave https://www.localdvm.com/news/washington-dc/chief-contee-gives-update-on-capitol-shooting-investigation-progress/ https://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2021/01/investigation-of-fatal-shooting-of-woman-in-u-s-capitol-indicates-united-states-capitol-police-officer-allegedly-shot-killed-woman/ https://wjla.com/news/local/woman-shot-during-unrest-on-us-capitol-grounds-dies-police-say https://nypost.com/2021/01/09/doj-to-probe-shooting-of-air-force-vet-ashli-babbitt-in-capitol/ https://timesofsandiego.com/crime/2021/01/07/capitol-police-officer-who-shot-san-diego-woman-during-riot-placed-on-leave/ https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-capitol-shooting-victim-20210107-2ssro6b6d5dkdibdmuxxjzn7hy-story.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQaeg1d82Lo&bpctr=1611857207 |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by MnSpring on 01/29/21 at 09:14:51 0D2D2F273A2D480 wrote:
LOL. A bunch of links, parroting the same ‘wire’ story. Sure is proof that ‘Some’, people are treated differently than ‘other’ people. Gee Wally, isn’t that something that the UL, DFI, FDS, Socialist SUPPORTERS, ‘WERE’, Rioting about ? |
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Title: Re: L. Graham says the GOP deserve to get 'destroy Post by Eegore on 01/29/21 at 09:57:38 "LOL. A bunch of links, parroting the same ‘wire’ story." And your belief that there is no inquiry comes from where? |
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