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Title: Things about Kate and Lucky (Guzzi) Post by MMRanch on 12/11/20 at 21:27:13 K-A-T-E : is my Kawasaki / Triumph W-650 So , as most of you know Kate spent several years in a lean-too collecting dust and dirt before I rescued her . That was about the first of August this year. Now three months later I felt confident enough in her to take a 300 mile ride on her. That would be 150 miles away from home . Spending a 6 hour day together is a good way to get to know more of those little quirks about anything I believe. This first thing goes back to the new chain and sprockets Kate got. Turns out Kate is long-legged . Speedo (drives off F/sprocket) says 70 while the GPS says 76-77. That would be at 4000 rpm. At that gearing - going up a steep Interstate mountain grade in 5th gear at said 76mph while pushing a full size windshield leaves very little power for accelerating. That's not to say that 4th gear is catching its breath , it still has plenty of jump and speed left. Fourth gear has a RED-LINE speed of 110 mph or so. Next thing : Giving a speedo error of 8% to the mile counter the MPG comes out to the high side of 50mpg at 75-77 mph. That's about right with the other bikes I've ridden. I've come to think the W650 has more " get-up-and-go " than the Savage motor does once the RPM's get to going , but at lower RPM where most folks ride the difference is very little. At 5,000rpm where the LS650 is tapering off - is about where the W650 is coming alive good. So at 5,000rpm in 4th gear Kate is in the mid-70's mph getting ready to make a leap of some sort. The standard seating position on Kate is more conductive to long periods in the saddle than ridding on the Savage. The Guzzi (Lucky) has the same sitting position going on and has a Corbin to sit on , I would recommend one of them to anybody , and if I keep Kate I'll get her a Corbin too. But those seat are $$$ and Lucky and Kate are close to serving the same function. I did have a guy come in the gas station where I was today ,he was asking , "who's Triumph is that outside." ;D picture of Kate after her first bath at my house , no recent pictures yet , I'll work on that. :) |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by ohiomoto on 12/12/20 at 08:37:35 My friend had a Fatboy a long time ago. He put 22k on it the first year he owned it. He went into his local HD dealer to get a battery for it. He had saddle bags and luggage hanging all over his bike. The owner was a Mennonite and said in his Amish accent, "You know Mr. Dutton, you ride this thing like a touring bike, why don't you get yourself a touring bike?" My friend didn't get that battery, but he did ride home with an Ultra Classic. You picking up what I'm laying down MM??? ;D I'll be happy to give Kate a good home. ;) |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by LANCER on 12/12/20 at 08:46:14 There are a couple of old BSA models I wouldn’t mind having. [ch128526] [ch127949] [ch128077] Who knows, maybe someday. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Serowbot on 12/12/20 at 09:11:07 Once you name a bike,... she's family :-? |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/12/20 at 13:10:08 ohiomoto If only ultra Classics came in 400# packages ??? ::) ...................... I've got about $3500 , in Kate - and only got about 800 miles of JOY out of her . Ask me again in the spring ? :-/ I'll have to admit I enjoyed playing with getter her in top shape , :). ......... The bore and stroke is like the 1960's Triumph's with a longer stroke than bore. She can get down really low in the RPM's and still smoothly pull off "slick as a button" :) :) Its easy to like ! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by ohiomoto on 12/12/20 at 17:52:00 I've always wanted a W650, but I mostly like to tell my friends whenever I can. Oh and those Ultras actually handle very good. Much more nimble than you would expect. I was blown away when I got on it. Wasn't at all what I expected. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/12/20 at 19:22:59 Ohiomoto If me and Kate ever get up your way , I'll be glad to come by and introduce you to her proper , if your in a position to take her for a ride . :) Do you know a guy that goes by ohiorider ? He lives in Cleveland also . |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Matchless G11 on 12/13/20 at 06:11:19 "who's Triumph is that outside." Reminds me of my friend who had a type E Jag with wire wheel knock offs. Back in the day they day manufactures put the name of the make on the hub cap. Some old guy saw the knock off spinner, came in and asked my friend "What year undo is that?" |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Matchless G11 on 12/13/20 at 06:23:44 4C414E4345521217200 wrote:
I have couple [img][/img] She is called "Sarah" for my first love from high school lost to cancer |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/13/20 at 06:34:59 HAY ! That BSA looks like it could be KATE's Cousin ? I see it's a twin too ! :) |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by ohiomoto on 12/13/20 at 06:39:23 Don't know ohiorider... I had a mildly customized 71 Triumph back in the mid/late 90s...the HD boom years. I use to go bar hopping with it and it would end up parked between a bunch $50k-$70k custom HDs and there would always be an old guy who would walk in and ask "who's Trumpet is that?" :) |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Matchless G11 on 12/13/20 at 06:43:20 2C3E2C3E33202F2229610 wrote:
It's a Lightning, and it's sister bike, also in my garage is a Thunderbolt for some reason "Thunderbolt and lightning, very, very frightening me " :) [img][/img] |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by ohiomoto on 12/13/20 at 06:53:07 Love the BSA Matchless, my 71 had the same ram air intake on front brake and right side shifting. So cool! haha |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Dave on 12/13/20 at 11:35:20 Kate as a Scrambler. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e0sWgEAg2w [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e0sWgEAg2w[/media] |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Matchless G11 on 12/13/20 at 16:07:53 2C2B2A2C2E2C372C430 wrote:
The only problem with the right side shifter is the shift pattern is backwards to my Matchless. So the Bsa is one down rest up and the Matchless is one up and rest down. I prefer the shift on the Matchless. I just have to keep thinking when I ride it . |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by ohiomoto on 12/13/20 at 17:52:55 The Triumph was one down and I think it was 3 up. Pretty sure the same as old BSAs. I think they even shared a lot of parts???? My problem was I was still racing motocross so everytime I jumped on the Triumph I would tap the rear brake to put it in gear! Thankfully, I had no problems once I got moving. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by LANCER on 12/14/20 at 01:51:45 I love your choices. I wanted a ‘67 Lightning or Firebird until running into a ‘56 Goldstar 500 DBD in ‘69. Had it for a long time but no more. [ch128530] Got it from a pro flat-track racer who was retiring. He rebuilt it to sell. $900 It was fun . [ch128526] |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Matchless G11 on 12/14/20 at 03:33:33 63646563616378630C0 wrote:
My 72 Guzzi Eldorado had a 1 up rest down left side shift, till I put a shift offset bracket on it. Maybe I should have left it then it would have been like my younger days with four bikes each shifting differently! But on a serious note I asked a old Vincent guy years ago about "What do you do in a panic situation when each bike has a different shift pattern and brake placement ?" He responded "Pull everything! (handlebar levers) Push everything! (foot controls) You will stop!" |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Matchless G11 on 12/14/20 at 03:34:29 7479767B7D6A2A2F180 wrote:
Lancer I was thinking a Goldie bsa would be on your list! |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by ohiomoto on 12/14/20 at 06:52:08 6D747A7A2C2C6F7869787E762E29281D0 wrote:
LOL That's awesome! |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/14/20 at 07:37:59 Thinking about the OLDER BIKES : So , the new W800 is rated for less HP than the Older W650 . The 2000 W650 is rated at 50HP . Kawasaki has 4 valves/cylinder and shims for valve clearance , from my point of view - both are GOOD things. That's not to say I don't like the pushrod simplicity , that's one of the nice parts of the Guzzi , the "V7-design" is 53 year old now and going strong ! Here is my 49th year model . :) |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by ohiomoto on 12/14/20 at 14:31:42 There is Something For Kate, I mean about Kate and California. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0RBtg2eqSk[/media] See what I did there? haha |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Matchless G11 on 12/16/20 at 12:07:09 One thing I love about the w650 is the bevel driven cam. I kind of wish there was a window on it like the "gear gazer" put on some bevel Ducatis. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by LANCER on 12/16/20 at 15:25:35 627062707D6E616C672F0 wrote:
Mike, are you turning into a COLLECTOR ? |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Matchless G11 on 12/16/20 at 17:03:08 515C535E584F0F0A3D0 wrote:
Mike, are you turning into a COLLECTOR ?[/quote] Many years ago there was a comic with two guys looking at a Vincent black shadow , The guy labeled as the Collector says "It's too valuable to ride!" The guy labeled as the Enthusiast says "That's what makes it worthless!" Mike sounds more like an enthusiast. ::) |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/16/20 at 20:56:18 Ya'll are right , "If I can't ride it --- then it's worthless" . A part of me wants one of the RE Twins , the Interceptor . Its got the 270 deg. crank and should be nice and smooth . :) Kate has the 360 deg. crank and both pistons stopping at the same time - twice every round makes for a vibration. It's not really bad , but it's an undesirable part of the package , "Old-School" ya might say. ;D |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/16/20 at 21:33:06 Sometimes , I sort of miss having my old CD175 Honda . If I run the bikes I have now like I ran the CD , then I'd be inviting jail time ! ;D |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Oldfeller--FSO on 12/17/20 at 15:04:41 I owned it's sand cast predecessor, the CB 160. Nice little bike, could run 60-65 with no issues. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by ohiomoto on 12/17/20 at 17:52:59 This thread got hijacked in a good way all because of Kate. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/17/20 at 18:14:03 Yea , The extra 15cc didn't make much difference. 65mph was really fast on the CD too ! ::) But it was fun to run it like there's no tomorrow ! :) ........................ My old ridding buddy from the bicycles days bought a Honda 150 Dream - the 160's Dad ,at the time when I was ridding a 65cc sport. Then when he got drafted into the Army , Dad bought the 150cc from him . So I got to drive it anytime. Dad had been ridding my 65 also so we needed a second bike. Later Dad got a CB450 , then a CB750K. So ya might say I got him ridding again , he had a 26" bicycle with a washing machine (B&S) on it in his late teens. So a year later when I saw the CD175 I had to buy it. ..................... Sometimes the hijacked threads are the best ones ! :) |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Dave on 12/18/20 at 04:04:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaB40TLQE8M [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaB40TLQE8M[/media] |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/18/20 at 08:10:48 So , Hitler really like his Honda ... maybe he was trying to meet the "Nice-People" on a Honda ? ::) My Brother Kent loved his V65 Honda , and rode it till it was nothing but rubble . Then he got Triumphs version of a Sport's Bike the 900 triple w/99HP in hopes of carrying on like the V65. It kind-of worked. Now Kent has an old (pre rubber mount) Harley 1200 Sportster so he could "SLOW-DOWN" in his old age ! ;D Anybody who has seen him ride that old Sportster might think it didn't work ! He rides it like it was a Honda V65 ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Oldfeller--FSO on 12/18/20 at 11:13:01 http://https://www.motorcycle.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/21-Honda-Rebel-1100_engine-right-633x356.jpg Hitler loved his 1100cc Rebel engine because the long long cam chain had this long long travel cam chain adjuster system and, being water cooled, the head didn't move upwards nearly as much as the old air cooled Savage engine did. The cam, cam chain and the rest of the engine was carefully engineered by Honda to run off of modern, wimpy oils suitable to a fully modern catalytic converter equipped engine ........ The Honda Africa Twin made up a really good proving ground for the engine, as transcontinental fast dirt riding requires total reliability of the engine and the drive train as there ARE no bike shops along the way. And yes, other versions with bigger 6.5 gallon gas tanks already exist in the Africa Twin line, so look to see the Honda 1100cc Rebel get that and the more powerful Africa Twin engine or else the same tuning retrofitted into a Commander style aftermarket computer tuning system. :) |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/18/20 at 16:00:41 I believe a 500cc version would be better than the 1100cc version. So do all the Honda V-4 have cam chain issues ? I'll have to find out why brother quit fixing his . :-? |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Oldfeller--FSO on 12/18/20 at 18:11:02 No, not issues inside normal bike mileage numbers, but Hondas did put wear on their cam chains over time. As in all of their premium engines, Honda DESIGNED a cam chain adjustment system that gave them goodly amounts of miles built in from the beginning. I don't think Honda ever made a system like the Suzuki growth ratchet system. most were self-adjusted with a known small amount of spring tension when the engine was in the cold part of its contraction expansion swing span. All Honda big bike engines can go over 50,000 miles with normal maintenance. 100,000 miles is not unusual, but Honda requires routine maintenance to do those sorts of miles. I did check the Africa Twin forums and the first generation 1000 cc Africa Twins had spring loaded cam tension adjusters that were completely self adjusting. Forum cam chains and guides did require some replacement though, mentions a site in Europe that has a guy that can do it all (new curved guide and chain) with the engine sitting in the frame inside of two hours. Looking at it, pulling a bolt or two and then the curved side chain guide slides in and out from the side cover opening. The straight guide (which is retained by the head) likely gets little wear, so replacing that would likely not be needed until full head removing tear downs were needed. Honda users do like to complain about their pre-warm up cam chain noises, though. So a cold cam chain can make a discernible sound I would think. I think it would live and run about like a Honda, which is fairly quiet and bullet proof generally speaking. http://https://www.bike-parts-honda.com/thumbs/h/motog/79440/IMGE/930_930/CAM-CHAIN--TENSIONER-Honda-MOTO-1000-AFRICA-TWIN-2016-CRF1000AG-E_04.jpg Aftermarket sells this sort of 100% manual adjuster system for "performance Honda Africa Twin engines". The few who used them seem to like them. Ebay has them listed for like $39 so they aren't that expensive. Full price is $69 so they are still fairly inexpensive items. http://https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/8302/9103/products/CRUT900-BU_1_1024x1024.JPG?v=1571709432 Rebel 500 has a dry weight of 408 pounds (50 hp) Rebel 1100 (manual trans model) weighs 487 pounds. (88 hp) if you want the fancy double clutch automatic transmission, weight goes up to 508 pounds. I think it is all sort of esoteric over in Mike land, as your Guzzi makes about the same hp as the Rebel 500 and weights about the same. It just needs fixing. Dave has offered help and a heated garage to work in, you could make the trip to Dave's or else do it in your own somewhat heated bike fix it space as you have one you can work in. Remember, the Rebel 1100 is intentionally detuned ~ 20 hp removed ~ with purpose added anti-wheelie control features added to the throttle by wire control system, likely because these anti-wheelie tricks were actually needed items at the automatic transmission 88 hp level with the short wheel base of the Rebel. An abrupt whacked open hand full of throttle at a stop light might jest give you a real good look at them fluffy white clouds ...... ::) Personally, I can't handle a 400+ pound bike at all (or any bike, for that matter) so I should just sit over here quietly, I think ....... My bike riding days are over although I don't like it any at all. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/18/20 at 19:12:34 :) .................... Looks like me and Dave are going Guzzi - Gutting after Christmas ! ;) ............................. I like air cooled engines just fine. And 50HP is plenty for anything I'm going to do. .................... I put the mild spring in my cam-chain adjuster and moved to the extended hole a long time ago. Well my S-40 has about 50K miles and the adjuster might have moved one click in the last 30K miles , so now its 3 clicks out from fully compressed. I may never have to replace the chain ? 8-) .......................... The Guzzi company (piaggio group) makes a 500cc three wheeled thing that leans with the curves . I'll be old some day , but like Dave says ... not today ! |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by springman on 12/18/20 at 20:43:27 Oldfeller, you're making me feel good about the Rebel 1100. Mind you I am quite happy with the Shadow Spirit 1100 at around 600 lbs and 60 hp, but like I said, let's see what is available used in 5 years or so. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Oldfeller--FSO on 12/19/20 at 12:33:35 Once you are in the second hole, the adjuster moves on out until the cam chain hits itself coming and going. There are a lot of us in the second hole now but nobody seems to have any noise symptoms from the cam chain brushing the inside edge of itself coming and going with the resulting noise perhaps being so mild everyone simply gets used to it and ignores it. I question if the solid sets of cam chain plates going up and down simply rub their inside curved edges together very gently and the stretch and wear out simply stops because the cam chain is in essence supported on both sides by an oil filmed solid hard steel surface (ie. itself) that is sandwiched between the durable plastic guide rails. I wonder about that ....... really. ::) =================================================== MM, do you have a fish scale (or other force gauge) you could use on your clutch lever before and after so as to quantify your improvements? Some light cord and a small pulley to bend the force 90o and some smaller bar bell weights could do the trick ....... |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/19/20 at 19:56:55 I used the "This er fit her" method when picking a new spring . It has enough pressure to take up the slack but not enough to make any slack of its own ! Easily collapsed between the thumb and index finger. One click in 30,000 miles , no pressure at all ! ;) Just take the slack up !! It can't go backwards by itself anyway . I like the adjuster on Kate just as much ! :) |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by badwolf on 12/19/20 at 20:35:54 When the plunger is out too far a LOT of that comes from the tensioner arm bending not just chain wear. Put on a new arm and the plunger will go back in a suprising ways. A victum of the pawl. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/19/20 at 22:00:09 It occurred to me that : There ain't no point in that spring being anything but enough to take the slack up. The ratchet will do the rest. ;) |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/20/20 at 14:43:31 Hay Dave , I finally understand what Oldfeller is asking --- he means about the "Guzzi" Clutch. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Oldfeller--FSO on 12/20/20 at 18:09:27 Yes, Mike. If you can't measure something about your Guzzi clutch lever actuation force, how will you know if you fixed anything? As to how the Guzzi clutch operates against its spring finger pressure plate, you got me. ::) Never owned a Guzzi, don't have any sort of knowledge apart from general knowledge from old car clutches that used spring finger pressure plates ...... I take it your finger force driven handlebar actuator is a hydraulic cylinder acting on another hydraulic cylinder in the clutch plate bell housing? And there is a fluid reservoir and a bleed station and a hydraulic line involved? Have you ever bled this system or changed out the hydraulic fluid? |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/20/20 at 19:27:08 Oh no OldFeller Guzzi's are simple . Its a cable pulling a lever about 6 inches long w/pivot at the base , then a push rod ridding about an inch from the pivot. Its a lot like the Savage in function - push rod through one plate pushing the other plate . Its is single plate like a 1970's car. Something is binding up the rod . I'm sure that once its pieces are sprawled out in a line on the floor it will be plain what the problem is. If its not then I'm going for milder springs. .............................. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/20/20 at 20:00:09 Plates I do not completely understand how it works But Its nothing I can't figure out once I see it in the open. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Dave on 12/21/20 at 03:42:29 Oldfeller: There will be no doubt if we fixed anything on MM's clutch. The amount of effort required to pull the clutch lever in is almost beyond the ability of "mere mortals". The amount of force required is almost hard enough to take the fun out of riding! I rode the bike about 3 years ago and the clutch worked just fine - I pulled in the clutch when we were in Arkansas.....and I would not want to ride the bike as it currently is. There is something definitely wrong - it feels like something is definitely in a bind and the clutch does not want to release. Dave |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Oldfeller--FSO on 12/21/20 at 09:14:04 Cables themselves can be funny, I had one start to fray apart internally once and the little wires would sporadically jam up inside the outer cable housing on the edge of a crimped fitting ....... and then they would suddenly free up and fly straight for a few days before starting to jam up again. TAKE LOTS OF PICS OF YOUR PROBLEM WHEN YOU LOCATE IT. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 12/21/20 at 12:40:19 I've done the new cable first too . ! :-? Its so hard to pull that cables don't last long ! Here's a picture of my left arm after the guzzi having a problem for a few years now ! ;D |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 01/12/21 at 18:13:14 I've got the Guzzi in the tractor shop waiting on warmer weather . But I've been doing some research into other folks have similar issues . Could be the throw-out bearing failed. Apparently some of them were assembled without a touch of grease in the right spot. I'll know in a week or so. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Dave on 01/13/21 at 11:59:49 2D3F2D3F32212E2328600 wrote:
MM - I thought you were going to come up here and work on the bike in a heated garage......with a set of helping hands? |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 01/13/21 at 20:48:27 PM |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by MMRanch on 01/14/21 at 20:58:12 Dave , When do ya think would be good ? |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by ohiomoto on 01/18/21 at 17:05:33 That's it Dave, get Kate up this way so I can swing down and save her from MM!! ;D |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate and Luck (the Guzzi) Post by MMRanch on 01/18/21 at 20:00:54 Kate is REALLY EASY to like. Maybe next summer I can ride her up to your house Dave ? ;) I'm still undecided about selling her , the last time I had a bike even close to being as nicely mannered as her was in 1969. Yea , the CD175 Honda I had then was a big jump from the Yamaha Twin-Jet 100 it was replacing . That CD 175 was almost a full size bike for a 135 lb. 17 year old. It had the flared fenders like the Honda Dream Style. I might have been in LOVE ! ::) ....................... So , I'm loading the Guzzi tomorrow afternoon and bring the new tire , the new clutch cable , and the shop manual . We'll have to order parts after we find the problem. I'm betting its the throw-out bearing that pushes the clutch rod ?. :-? |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by Dave on 01/22/21 at 04:05:57 Expert at work......warm and comfy garage! |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate Post by stewmills on 01/22/21 at 09:18:31 Yeah, that is clearly Dave's garage and not MMs. If it were MMs there would be cows and kitty cats running around...and he would be all bundled up like the kid in the Christmas Story. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate and Luck (the Guzzi) Post by MMRanch on 01/22/21 at 21:10:52 Hay , I felt like the kid in a Christmas Story ! ;) Nice Warm shop ! ;) Nice Clean tools ! ;) Nice Semi Smart help ! ;D Dave has all the Right Gadgets ! Most of them are still shinny . 8-) ............. So , We took the Swingarm off to get access to the clutch stuff . Then pulled all the push-rod stuff out ... it was a dirty and gritty looking mess. We didn't go all the way to the Clutch itself , but there wasn't we could do but replace the Clutch-Spring plate thing anyway. The Throw-out bearing was still in-tacked and looked good so we greased it good ... heck we greased it all good ! ::) I had a new cable too ... so Dave lubed it good and when we got it all reassembled it felt like a new machine !!! :) .............................. Here is an interesting observation : We went to Cadre Cycle in Cincinnati Thursday where there were a bunch of Guzzi bikes similar to mine. I had to sample all the Clutch pulls they had "just for comparison" ... The small block Guzzi models use a cupped disk looking spring instead of a bunch of coil springs . It has "Fingers ! (like a strait shift car) The best I could tell no two are just alike . Maybe the cupped-disk is a few .001's" thicker or thinner on each one ... or tempered a little different on each one. So the only way I'm getting a different feeling clutch is to change the spring-disk-thing - even then ... it may be less pull or more pull ??? But , for our efforts it does work a lot slicker than it did ! I'll have to get a different form of arm exercise now ! ;D With every tire change now , I think a cable lube and throw-out bearing lube will be in order. ! We put a new tire on it while it was apart too. I'm trying a Kenda Challenger for a rear this time. The Shinko 712 I took off still had a thousand miles left on it after about 6000 miles , but we had the tire off so it got changed. |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate and Lucky (Guzzi) Post by Dave on 01/23/21 at 05:15:17 MM: It is a good thing you headed south on Friday morning - Saturday morning got really cold! |
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Title: Re: Things about Kate and Lucky (Guzzi) Post by MMRanch on 01/23/21 at 08:12:21 Thats to COLD for me to go Ridding ! Well , without plugging up a lot of gear ! But I suspect your shop still has a warm floor ! :) ...................... I had an idea to ride to north AL. this morning for a lunch with some of the Guzzi guys ... but ... its just too COLD ! We got into the lower 20's this morning with a promise of 50 by 16:00 hrs. So , Kate has a HEATED SEAT now so I might have a date with her about 15:00hrs for a lap around the Country Block instead ? ;) |
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