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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/20 at 21:27:00

Title: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/20 at 21:27:00

Frikken Abbott says
Masks for everyone in public.
I say Bullshit..
If I'm gonna have an asshatdemocrat governor, I'll VOTE for it..
But I won't vote for a snowflake wearing a Republican vest.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 23:10:28


 If Trump said masks for everyone would it be different?

 Thats a serious question by the way.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by srinath on 07/03/20 at 05:31:41

Biden wears a mask, usually hanging off 1 ear, but atleast hey he's trying.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Serowbot on 07/03/20 at 07:58:14

Trump's war on face masks has us up to 50,000 new cases per day.
The question, "If Trump told you to jump off a cliff, would you?",... has been answered.
Don't be a lemming.  Protect yourself and your family and neighbors.
America is 4% of the world and 30% of the pandemic.

Not wearing a mask will ruin Trump's election chances.
Consider that.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/20 at 10:19:56


0F2F2D25382F4A0 wrote:
 If Trump said masks for everyone would it be different?

 Thats a serious question by the way.


Nope,, it would still piss me off,,


Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by srinath on 07/03/20 at 14:28:38

I'm more annoyed by Id10t's wearing masks wrong. Under their nose, pulling it down to talk, hanging off 1 ear all of which dumba$$ hiding biden is doing, as well as 80% of the fools in my hood. Is stupidity contagious ? Like can it jump from the TV onto you ???

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Serowbot on 07/03/20 at 14:54:48

Biden removes his mask when he reaches a safe social distance to speak... which is not dumbass.
Trump is afraid to muss up his hair...

Stupidity is clearly contagious...
That's why all you Trumpettes are having an issue with masks.
"No shirt, no shoes, no masks,... no service"...
...why is there this manufactured outrage over masks?...
Trump told you so.
Were any of you outraged at the no shirt, no shoes policy?... was it infringing on your Constitutional rights?
Grow up and save some lives... we're now banned from Europe because we're so inept and stupid.
MAGA...

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by srinath on 07/03/20 at 15:21:20

Biden was always hiding in his bunker - and his "rally" has 12 people, he's never closer than 6ft from anyone cos everyone knows they'd get groped if they were … and he still retardedly wears a mask and retardedly takes it down to speak.
Sorry sew - watch the footage - either he wears a mask when he doesn't need to or he takes it off when it was needed, cant have it both ways.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/20 at 16:20:58

I went to three places today
Bicycle shop
Nobody wearing a mask,,

Hardware store
Signs on door

PLEASE wear a mask
Not
No mask, no entry,,
Mask in pocket, went in, everyone else is safe from,, they are all wearing them,,
Nobody treated me like a jakass,,
Pizza joint
Employees wearing
Some customers wearing,,
Table with eight, nobody wearing,, Old folks were, but no customer under 50 did I see wearing,,

Soo,, all told,, today was a win,, IMO,,

You wanna wear it? Go for it@!
I dont,, so,, you wear yours and be safe
Ill take that Scary Liberty thing,, 'My Body
My choice\
Right?

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by srinath on 07/03/20 at 19:22:39

Hidin Biden is using this as a cover to not face people and let them know how DOA he is. Seriously if he wins, in February we'll see the Veep taking over … if its freaking AOC, OMG, watch the crap hit the fan, and then the other fans and rain down on the working man.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Serowbot on 07/04/20 at 08:15:13

Herman Cain Hospitalized for COVID-19 Hours After Tweeting ‘People Are Fed Up’ With Masks
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/herman-cain-hospitalized-covid-19-001059330.html

I hope you guys like hospitals... no visitors allowed.
Unless it's a family member in the bed next to you that you infected.
Trump politicized masks... don't follow him and put your loved ones at risk.
How will you live with that guilt?...
We disagree on almost everything, but I care about you guys.  
You wear helmets right?...  Wear a mask.
Heck,... wear yer' helmet in the grocery store...
Just protect yourself and your family.

‘Because of my stupidity.’ California man dies of COVID-19 after going to barbecue
https://www.yahoo.com/news/because-stupidity-california-man-dies-150325712.html

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/04/20 at 09:51:29

Yes, I wear a helmet..
You can wear the mask..
Freedom,, see how that works?

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/04/20 at 17:29:50

"You wanna wear it? Go for it@!
I dont,, so,, you wear yours and be safe
"


 Unfortunately you will still expose the environment around you to your potentially contagious droplets.

 So people can still be in contact with your fluids by touching surfaces your droplets landed on.  To justify this people will just dig up numbers about how little chances are, lifetime of virus on surface etc. etc. but contagion numbers are rising, not because of testing numbers.  I am talking people in treatment.

 I just left a Houston medical center that is filled with SARS-COV-2 patients and is going to have supply issues.  These are real people I see with my own eyes struggling to survive.  If I had the capability of getting you a tour I would.

 Your mask does make a difference to someone.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by srinath on 07/05/20 at 07:50:05

If you're gonna wear a mask, wear it properly. In fact its better to have an insert of a coffee filter lightly soaked in 95% alcohol between layers of microfiber or other fine filter material. And 1/2 the Idiots wearing masks are wearing them wrong.

The only purpose of wearing a mask seems to be virtue signaling.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Serowbot on 07/05/20 at 07:55:10

So not wearing a mask is your way of signaling a lack of virtue?...
Good for you...

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by srinath on 07/05/20 at 08:50:35


2C3A2D30283D302B5F0 wrote:
So not wearing a mask is your way of signaling a lack of virtue?...
Good for you...



That's as dumb as "what's the speed of dark".

Virtue signaling is garbage and does not denote actual virtue. For the specially thick. Its propaganda. So I'm showing lack of propaganda by waring a mask properly - BTW who the fcuk said I'm not wearing a mask. I just wear it correctly and am annoyed by Idiots who use it to virtue signal and not help.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Serowbot on 07/05/20 at 09:07:55

Well aren't you the superior one...

Correction...
So Trump supporters are signaling their lack of virtue by not wearing masks...

Does lack of virtue signaling bother you?...

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/05/20 at 09:14:16

You wanna wear a helmet?
Slap it on
Wanna wear a mask?
Strap it on.
Wanna stay in your house?
Someone will bring ya food,, IM sure,,

Freedom,, persona choice,,
America,, like that,,


Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Serowbot on 07/05/20 at 09:22:52

Whether or not you wear a helmet has no direct effect on others.
Not wearing a mask in public does.

Your rights end at the tip of my nose...
... in this case that's literal.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/05/20 at 09:41:33

Nope,, YOU have a mask,, maintain your distances, wear your mask..
Ya know,, you Can get a respirator,, because wearing a mask and expectiing it to seal,, problee not gonna,,
Disagree with ya Row,, and IM pretty sure neither of us will change ur opinion,, So,,
Everyone stay safe,, Im not gonna argue with ya, man,

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by MnSpring on 07/05/20 at 09:44:42


4C6C6E667B6C090 wrote:
 "... your potentially contagious droplets ..."

Would be the same as saying,
‘texting/distracted’ car Deaths (4500 +/-)
Are, potentially, responsible for the (35,000 +/-) Deaths due to all car crashes.

Nobody knows what a mask/no mask, Potentially, is for Death from C-19 is.

Of course, if I am sneezing/blowing my nose/etc, NOT going out.
If I am in a mart/box/store, and someone else is, I simply stay well away.

For the people that think a mask is a, absolute, ironclad, (especially the majority of designer masks seen in public), guaranty, and Everybody HAS to wear one, (again including the designer ones that provide the micron protection of cheese cloth), and they will totally protect them from a coughing/sneezing/drooling person. It is just cleaning the gene pool.

As has been said, “...it may all go away…” !  (after Nov 21)


Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by MnSpring on 07/05/20 at 09:55:01


5345524F57424F54200 wrote:
Your rights end at the tip of my nose...

Do, 'my rights', also end at the tip of your pointer finger ?



Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by srinath on 07/05/20 at 12:00:15


4A5C4B564E5B564D390 wrote:
Well aren't you the superior one...

Correction...
So Trump supporters are signaling their lack of virtue by not wearing masks...

Does lack of virtue signaling bother you?...




The virtue signaling is disgusting. Both from politicians and sheeple.

This is the problem when you politicize everything … 3+ yrs democrats impeach impeach impeach impeach hoax after hoax after hoax after hoax … The press 90% controlled by 6 major donors to the dems were complicit in all the crap.

Then new virus sweeps in and will keill you all … Obviously Trump calls it another hoax.

Oooo wear mask and be saved … Sorry hoax
Oooo we need 35,000 respirators else its your fault … sorry hoax …

The democraps cried wolf a million times …
A dog, or rat or something showed up, Dems startec screaming wolf again, again Trump ignored it due to the numerous hoaxes …

And we're all locked in a political stalemate again.

The globalists are after us - kill us with virus, or by ruining the economy or by politicizing everything render us choice less. Trump is just in the way.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/05/20 at 12:05:55

What happened to the Murder hornets? Did I miss those?
It was a great little filler crisis to focus the fear on,, but it only lasted a few days before something booted it from its position of power,,

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/05/20 at 17:19:06

You wanna wear a helmet?
Slap it on


 Garbage argument.  Your lack of helmet wearing won't infect other people.  Don't pretend people catch infections from your head injuries.



Wanna wear a mask?
Strap it on.


 And your spit on the counter at the store?  Your actions put others at risk.


Freedom,, persona choice,,
America,, like that,,


 Want to scream "He's got a gun!!" at a crowded market?
 Freedom right?  Personal choice.

 Or wait... if your actions can harm someone... nah, Freedom.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/05/20 at 17:49:16

That's right
Can harm someone..
Stay home
Wear your mask
Keep your distance..
Leave me alone

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/05/20 at 18:14:36

"That's right
Can harm someone..
Stay home
Wear your mask
Keep your distance..
Leave me alone"



 So I can do things that can harm your wife that I am in complete control of, because of Freedom and if she doesn't like it she can stay home?

 So these protests, you don't want to go out because they might be throwing concrete.  Stay home, stay safe.  Just leave them alone.

 You went to the hardware store, employees don't want your spit on their counters, they should stay home and lose their job.  Stay home, stay safe.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/05/20 at 19:37:49

However unreasonable you need to paint me, enjoy..

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by MnSpring on 07/05/20 at 21:11:14


2505070F1205600 wrote:
"... Your lack of helmet wearing won't infect other people.  ..."
 

Au contraire.
Wearing or not wearing a helmet, most certainly can have a tremendous effect on other people !

… spit on the counter at the store …
… scream "He's got a gun!!" at a crowded market …
… do things that can harm your wife ...

Are,
Garbage argument(s)  

Always will be DFI’s that do the above.
Unfortunately, those people have existed for many years,
and in this recent environment, there are more and more of them.
(as evidenced by AOC and Omar being voted in)


Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/05/20 at 23:13:54


"However unreasonable you need to paint me, enjoy.."

 Comparing wearing a helmet to wearing a mask is pretty unreasonable.  Your head injury will not infect others, but your saliva can.

 Why is there a logic that you can go spread disease onto surfaces and everyone else should stay home?

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/05/20 at 23:20:30

"Wearing or not wearing a helmet, most certainly can have a tremendous effect on other people !"


 Can you reference an example where a head injury caused an infection in another person that spread to even more people?

 I can reference tons of infections that can spread from human to human.


"Always will be DFI’s that do the above.
Unfortunately, those people have existed for many years,
and in this recent environment, there are more and more of them.
"

 And its illegal.  It is illegal to scream "He's got a gun!" in public and there is no reasonable logic that if you don't want to hear those things in a crowd and get trampled you need to stay home.  Stay safe.  It's illegal to text and drive and there is no reasonable logic that if you want to keep from getting hit by a person texting you have to never drive.  Stay home, stay safe.

 The DFI has got to go, not everyone else.  JoG's logic is the DFI because Freedom can do what he wants and everyone else needs to stay clear or stay home.  If he's coughing up blood from tuberculosis, everyone else needs to get off the bus so they can be safe.

 Pretending a head injury is equitable to a contagious disease is ridiculous.

 And nobody said masks are an absolute stop to the spread of disease, but humans have been wearing them in surgery and around the respiratory infirm for over a century because everyone knows they reduce the chance of - infection.  Not head injuries, infection.

 

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Serowbot on 07/06/20 at 08:11:54

An epidemiologist, an ICU doctor and a scientist all walk into a bar.

I’m just kidding, they know better.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/06/20 at 09:13:01

The DFI has got to go, not everyone else.  JoG's logic is the DFI because Freedom can do what he wants and everyone else needs to stay clear or stay home.  If he's coughing up blood from tuberculosis, everyone else needs to get off the bus so they can be safe.


Again, paint me in the most ridiculous terms, set up your strawman,,knock him down,,
IF I was ACTUALLY sick,, then id be making changes to protect others,, Im NOT willing to wear your sheepmask,, unless and until I,, thets ME, NOlan E Parker,, when I agree with it, I will do so,,
All Ive seen so far are Experts, wrong, and or LYING,, driving up the numbers using bullshit, even fukkin GUNSHOT victims got counted,, So Im supposed to Just KEEP on allowing these Awthorities to make my decisins FDOR me? Tell someone to Sukk my tushy for me, okay, because IM not sure who needs to hear it,,


Pretending a head injury is equitable to a contagious disease is ridiculous.

You cant be that dumb,, I never implied such,, YOUR fReedom to protect yourself from whatever hazards YOU believe life is throwing at you today are YOURS,,

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Serowbot on 07/06/20 at 09:54:47

The problem with this particular virus is that you can be infectious before you show symptoms,.. and some people never show symptoms.
You could spread it to your entire family before you knew you were sick.  
Wearing a mask at this point, is closing the gate after the horses have left the barn.
A lot is unknown about this virus,.. but what is known is that the minor inconvenience of wearing a mask will cause no harm, but may save lives.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by MnSpring on 07/06/20 at 10:28:32


0020222A3720450 wrote:
 Can you reference an example where a ...  

Person with a (98.9 % of) mask/s, infected a person without a mask?
Or a person without a mask, infected a person with a mask ?
Or a person with a mask, did not affect a person with a mask ?
Etc/etc/etc.

(That of course, was not coughing,spitting,sneezing,drooling,etc,etc.
AND, not a high grade, containment type mask)


WITHOUT, using the words;
Possibly,  Could be, Maybe, Should, Could,
or any other word that, 'implies', something that is not proven.  

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by srinath on 07/06/20 at 12:11:07


6076617C64717C67130 wrote:
The problem with this particular virus is that you can be infectious before you show symptoms,.. and some people never show symptoms.
You could spread it to your entire family before you knew you were sick.  
Wearing a mask at this point, is closing the gate after the horses have left the barn.
A lot is unknown about this virus,.. but what is known is that the minor inconvenience of wearing a mask will cause no harm, but may save lives.




Yup, I don't even buff my wife unless we're wearing 3 masks a piece..
Nice work China, I cant tell if I'm buffing Bing bing fan or Bing bing Li.

Trust me, I am a big big fan of both of em. And That aint no Big big lie.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/06/20 at 13:31:59

"Again, paint me in the most ridiculous terms, set up your strawman,,knock him down,,"


 What part of what I am describing is false?  You wont wear a mask as a courtesy to protect others unless you have proof you are sick, from a disease that won't show symptoms when you initially spread it.



"IF I was ACTUALLY sick,, then id be making changes to protect others,, Im NOT willing to wear your sheepmask,, unless and until I,, thets ME, NOlan E Parker,, when I agree with it, I will do so,, "


 For someone that used to want asymptomatic numbers, and agreed asymptomatic don't have symptoms, I find that interesting.  

 The virus spreads prior to symptoms.  What do you need as "proof" for a virus that shows zero symptoms during its initial contagion phase?

 How do other people know you aren't sick?  Oh wait, they just need to stay home, so you, that have no proof, can spread your spit in privately owned companies.  You know, Freedom.  




"Pretending a head injury is equitable to a contagious disease is ridiculous.

You cant be that dumb,, I never implied such,, YOUR fReedom to protect yourself from whatever hazards YOU believe life is throwing at you today are YOURS,,
"


 Your protecting your head is your choice.  But if you do not put a helmet on, and you get hurt you will not spread to other people, and the people they came in contact with, that head injury.  If you do not wear a mask, you can spread your infection to others.

 You are comparing the "freedom" of "protecting yourself" to protecting others from you.  Its garbage logic.  You don't wear a mask to protect you.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/06/20 at 13:50:19


"WITHOUT, using the words;
Possibly,  Could be, Maybe, Should, Could,
or any other word that, 'implies', something that is not proven."



 Are you attempting to say there is no proof that masks reduce infection?

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/06/20 at 14:14:23

If hes NOT,, I am,,

We dont even have reasonably dependable number on CV19 death,, there ARE no stats that anyone who actually thinks can accept as dependable..
All we have are demonstrably massaged numbers,,
You can BELIEVE what ya want,, but these masks arent
A Fitted,, air comes in around them,, and goes OUT around them,,
B Not fine enough to stop viruses,,

Believe what youre told,,
Dont use your eyes and detect lies,,
Stand strong,, suppport the AwThorITease,,
Because they
Dont have Any Agenda
And have a Proven track record of being
WRONG..
Screw that
Screw themIm DONE listening

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/06/20 at 19:37:34

"A Fitted,, air comes in around them,, and goes OUT around them,,
B Not fine enough to stop viruses,,
"

 Masks reduce the amount of spit you project into the atmosphere.

 Reduce.  Get over it, stop making excuses, fabric over a human mouth reduces spit in the atmosphere.  Or every surgeon ever has been wrong and you are right.   Maybe you don't cover your mouth when you cough because it doesn't create a full seal, so why try.  Same with sneezing.  If people don't like it they should stay away from you because of Freedom.

 
"Believe what youre told,,
Dont use your eyes and detect lies,,"



 You mean my eyes that have been to China, UK, NY, DC, CO and now in TX literally seeing hallways and hallways of infected people?  Those eyes?

 I guess your trip to the hardware store is a more reliable indicator.


 Bottom line is you have no way of knowing if you are spreading this particular disease before you show symptoms and a mask reduces, specifically reduces, with the exemption of all other forms of description, exclusively and only "reduces" the spit you toss into the world around you.  

 You don't want to wear a mask, so you claim you aren't "sick" which you cant know before you spread the disease, and you don't like being told what to do.  The problem is you use garbage logic like wearing helmets to justify it.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/06/20 at 21:27:07

The problem is you use garbage logic like wearing i
to justify it.

Nope, you took it out of context.
I explained it.
You refuse to understand
No,, not playing

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/07/20 at 05:18:02


"Nope, you took it out of context.
I explained it.
"

 Your explanation is that we are "free" to "choose" to wear a helmet.

 The issue is when you choose to not wear a helmet won't kill other people.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/07/20 at 06:40:24

And after all the lies and bullshit, I dont believe anythng about this horrible disease. Believe what you want,, run and hide, wear whatever,, Im done with it,,
In a year, when the obvious to me becomes obvious to others, its gonna be a laff..
Tell me anything theyve gotten right..
Every model
wrong

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/seasonal-influenza/prevention-and-control/personal-protective-measures

Now, go ahead and play with it,,


https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/07/20 at 07:31:59

Tell me anything theyve gotten right..
Every model
wrong


 What is "wrong" about the CO modeling?  What is "wrong" with the 1200 pages I put on here?

 Oh I bet without looking at it you already know it's wrong even though we stopped multiple outbreaks and had to go to DC to show how we did it.  I'm in Houston now because we outlined the contract tracing and indicated the age demographic change that is happening right now.

 I see thousands of people in hospitals, in your own state.  How do you explain how they got there if the virus isn't contagious?


 The nonsense part of this is that we all know that cloth over a mouth reduces spit entering the surrounding atmosphere.  If that saves one life, not millions, just one, is it worth doing?  

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/07/20 at 07:44:14

Ohh, NOO,, The
f it saves One Life argument,, Ohh God

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by MnSpring on 07/07/20 at 14:34:45


4666646C7166030 wrote:
"... because everyone knows they reduce the chance of - ... " 

Several Countries that have a VERY significant number of people that have wore a full face mask, long before C-19, have much more deaths, (by per 100,000) than the US.

If, ‘masks’, work so well, those Countries should have much lower death rates.


Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/07/20 at 16:15:44

"If, ‘masks’, work so well, those Countries should have much lower death rates."


 If you choose ignore general hygiene and availability + quality of care.  Also we know mortality rate calculations are skewed. 

 Masks reduce the amount of spit you project into the atmosphere around you.  Of course every surgeon in the world could be wrong.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by srinath on 07/07/20 at 17:12:38


09292B233E294C0 wrote:
"If, ‘masks’, work so well, those Countries should have much lower death rates."


 [color=#ff00ff][color=#ff00ff]If you choose ignore general hygiene and availability + quality of care.  Also we know mortality rate calculations are skewed.[/color][/color] 

 Masks reduce the amount of spit you project into the atmosphere around you.  Of course every surgeon in the world could be wrong.




Oh wow, now you want to consider all that crap ...
Yet dont even reference percapita, or per population density or actual isolation (5000 peoppe in a Central heat/air apartment = 5000 are exposed) ...
Garbage argument bro, you should have started on the indexed to these factors at the begining ... Its just too late now, that train has left and you aint on it.

Cool.
Srinath.


Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/07/20 at 18:31:09


"Oh wow, now you want to consider all that crap …"

 I always have.

 I'm not the one saying masks do not reduce spit released into the atmosphere and using other countries mortality rates to somehow say material over a mouth won't collect some of that spit.

 MnSpring is attempting to indicate that mortality rates are equal in all aspects, except masks.

 I am saying fabric over a mouth reduces spit in the atmosphere.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by srinath on 07/08/20 at 05:46:42


7656545C4156330 wrote:
"Oh wow, now you want to consider all that crap …"

 I always have.

 




You have not, you have parroted the non indexed to population not to mention density and are still parroting those - agreed they're gathered and released by other agencies, and its much easier to count all of it than to tie back to population or density or even intangibles like hygeine - but simple per capita numbers you have chosen to ignore.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/08/20 at 20:22:33

"but simple per capita numbers you have chosen to ignore."

 So you are saying when I presented my data I considered 10 cases in Denver, a city of millions, to be the same as Walsenburg a city of a few thousand?  This would be a very inaccurate assessment of how I calculate numbers.

 What I am saying is cloth over a mouth reduces spit in the atmosphere.  MnSpring is saying that can't be true because other countries wear masks in abundance and don't have a reduced mortality rate.  But that logic assumes all other aspects are equal.  They are not.

 Spin it any way you want, but up until now it was accepted that fabric over a human mouth reduced spit released into the atmosphere around that human.  But now all the sudden every operating room in the world was wrong.  Every parent that said "cover your mouth" was wrong to assume putting something in front of the mouth reduces objects coming from that mouth.

 How could we all be wrong for so long and the truth exist only here in a motorcycle forum?

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by MnSpring on 07/08/20 at 21:04:02


48686A627F680D0 wrote:
  ... MnSpring is saying that can't be true because other countries wear masks in abundance and don't have a reduced mortality rate.  

If you can only argue by putting words in someone else's posts.
Go for it !

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/08/20 at 21:16:23


"If you can only argue by putting words in someone else's posts.
Go for it !"



 You mean to say you didn't mean other countries should have lower death rates when you wrote:

""If, ‘masks’, work so well, those Countries should have much lower death rates.""



 That, to me, means other countries should have lower mortality rates based off mask wearing percentage.  Unfortunately other factors, like reporting, care, availability of care, etc. also factor in.  To say masks alone should lower mortality rates would have to mean all other factors are either excluded, or are identical.

 I am saying masks reduce, specifically and only the term "reduce" with the exclusion of all other words, the amount of spit you project around you.  

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/09/20 at 08:42:39

Yeahh,, when gunshots get counted as CV,, a mask problee wasnt gonna save that guy,,

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Serowbot on 07/09/20 at 09:19:34

Just stop the triviality for moment and think,.. you do cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze don't you?...
It's truly ridiculous that this is being argued at all.

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by MnSpring on 07/09/20 at 15:42:35


3B2D3A273F2A273C480 wrote:
... It's truly ridiculous that this is being argued...

99.98% of people, do, cough/etc into a arm.
I’t NOT about that,
you and eegore KNOW that.

It is about Socialism lovers,
Demanding everyone wear a mask.
When they are relying on Lies !

And the real goal is to see how many Sheopal, one dog can herd.


Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/09/20 at 15:57:08


"Yeahh,, when gunshots get counted as CV,, a mask problee wasnt gonna save that guy,, "


 You not wearing a mask wouldn't either.  See how that makes no sense when I say it too?



Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/09/20 at 16:09:20

"99.98% of people, do, cough/etc into a arm.
I’t NOT about that,
you and eegore KNOW that.



 It is exactly about that.

 JoG claims he can tell if he is sick with SARS-COV-2, while also acknowledging that asymptomatic humans exist.  Somehow he has the unique ability to be exempt from asymptomatic contagion periods without his knowledge while no other known human can.

 So JoG not wanting to be a Sheepole will not wear a mask justifying it by saying he can somehow tell if he is "sick", and his additional argument is that since the mask doesn't "make a seal" it wouldn't do any good anyway.  Every medical professional, parent with kids, or person who ever covered their mouth to sneeze would disagree.

 Cloth over the mouth reduces the spit one puts into the atmosphere.

 JoG can not tell if he is an asymptomatic carrier of SARS-COV-2.

 SARS-COV-2 is spread through droplets.




It is about Socialism lovers,
Demanding everyone wear a mask.
When they are relying on Lies !"


 
 I agree that numbers, wherever you choose to get them are going to have huge discrepancies and people/organizations will mislead.  However that doesn't change that if a disease is spread through droplets, and you put a cloth over your mouth, you reduce the spread of that disease.

 That's it.  Stop trying to make the very obvious science behind the virus wrong, let alone the commons sense of covering your mouth, and address that forced masks is bad policy.
 

Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by MnSpring on 07/10/20 at 07:28:05


68484A425F482D0 wrote:
... I agree that numbers, wherever you choose to get them are going to have huge discrepancies and people/organizations will mislead ...    

Comments on all other statements, except:
“And the real goal is to see how many Sheopal, one dog can herd”

Yes c-19 is real, yet it Much Less, ‘bad’, than many others that have occurred.
Just the, ‘perfect storm/time’, to KILL the vastly successful economy, and do anything that can be done to  discredit a person.
The Socialist wannabes, are just wetting their pants over this opportunity.

And the fact remains:
The real goal is to see how many Sheopal, one dog can herd.


Title: Re: I'll vote dew
Post by Eegore on 07/10/20 at 08:20:55


"Comments on all other statements, except:
“And the real goal is to see how many Sheopal, one dog can herd”


 I don't agree.  I think masks are capable of reducing the amount of spit you project into the atmosphere around you, and we know, it is proven fact that SARS-COV-2 is spread at a minimum, by droplets.

 Masks reduce droplets.  Stop saying masks don't work because of Socialists.  Bad policy is different than biological science.  Masks can still work, and Socialist policy can still be bad.



"Yes c-19 is real, yet it Much Less, ‘bad’, than many others that have occurred."

 I don't agree when we take into account "recent" as in within the past 100 years, contagions on US soil regarding infection rate speed and percentage.  SARS-COV-2 has created an influx of patients needing specialized care in medical care centers considerably higher than any other virus.  I've seen these places, I've been inside them.

 If all this is fake, why are all those people inside hospitals?

 They, no matter what you may think, are not clogging up ICU space because they went to the ED with a paper cut.  You do not put paper cuts on ventilators or other specialized care.
 

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