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Title: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/01/20 at 20:56:01 https://www.zerohedge.com/political/forbes-censors-award-winning-environmentalists-apology-over-three-decade-climate-scare-so https://www.zerohedge.com/political/forbes-censors-award-winning-environmentalists-apology-over-three-decade-climate-scare-so |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/01/20 at 21:45:19 Why do they care if Forbes removed the article when it's been available on Shellenberger's site for days? Maybe to make it seem like there is a cover-up that doesn't exist. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided uto come clean Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/01/20 at 23:28:45 So? The words..read the words.. Absorb the meaning.. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 05:29:31 So. I read it when it came out from the source. I am wondering why Zerohedge chooses to focus on Forbes, when the information is widely available elsewhere. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/02/20 at 05:39:01 69494B435E492C0 wrote:
Because Forbes doesn't like information that doesn't fit their narrative. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 05:45:31 "Because Forbes doesn't like information that doesn't fit their narrative." Then why do they have these articles that say the same thing? Why Climate Alarmism Hurts Us All: https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/12/04/why-climate-alarmism-hurts-us-all/#578d230e36d8 Why Apocalyptic Claims About Climate Change Are Wrong https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/11/25/why-everything-they-say-about-climate-change-is-wrong/#96d3b9712d6a Children suffering eco-anxiety over climate change dramitization: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-climate-children/children-suffering-eco-anxiety-over-climate-change-say-psychologists-idUSKBN1W42CF |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/02/20 at 06:02:09 7656545C4156330 wrote:
These 3 are different articles talking about - well the opposite of what is in the book and zerohedge's review. On Climate change my thought has almost 100% been on the "remedy" - that sounds to me to shuffle $$$ out of my pocket to Elon Musk's pocket. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 06:24:59 These 3 are different articles talking about - well the opposite of what is in the book and zerohedge's review. How are they the opposite? |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/02/20 at 06:58:26 4767656D7067020 wrote:
Read them I'm not posting a book review of 4 different books. BTW I find somethings even in the zerohedge review as contradictory - to other statements in the same review - again read it - not reviewing that either. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 07:08:31 So what I see is a posting on Zerohedge that outlines Shellenberger's article apologizing for climate scare. It also indicates Forbes has removed that article from their site. Shellenberger's article is basically a repeat of his previous work and is available in multiple locations besides Forbes. Forbes currently has articles from Shellenberger available and those contain the same information as the removed article. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/02/20 at 07:33:02 6545474F5245200 wrote:
If you have severe TDS that's the only obvious conclusion. For those with normal brains - zerohedge is a book review of apocalypse never which was published June 30 - 2 days ago. I'm assuming that's the same article Forbes deleted.[PS] Articles from 7 and 8 months ago are many climate hacks talking over one another tripping over one another to make me hand over more $$ to Tesla. Its there if you read. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by MnSpring on 07/02/20 at 07:42:28 2606040C1106630 wrote:
So, you say you read it. You say several times your opinion on why one place said another place took it down. Yet you have not stated your opinion on what was said ? |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 07:59:24 "If you have severe TDS that's the only obvious conclusion." Trump has nothing to do with this. TDS is also when people keep bringing him into conversations he has nothing to do with. "zerohedge is a book review of apocalypse never which was published June 30 - 2 days ago" The link shows me a page where they retype what Shellenberger wrote. It also says Forbes removed it from their site. "Articles from 7 and 8 months ago are many climate hacks talking over one another tripping over one another to make me hand over more $$ to Tesla." We obviously aren't reading the same articles. The ones I linked are about how climate scare tactics are counter-productive and inaccurate. The same thing Zerohedge has in the article. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 08:02:12 "So, you say you read it. You say several times your opinion on why one place said another place took it down. Yet you have not stated your opinion on what was said ?" I don't have issue with Shellenberger's work. He's been saying this stuff for a while now. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/02/20 at 08:04:12 5A7A78706D7A1F0 wrote:
Oh good and the book is about ????? How climate change is Fake science. Big big big big difference. Its no the dog wont bite if you dont do anything he doesn't like vs - there's no dog. BTW I haven't read the book - that review is all I've read and even there its not conclusive he says climate change is a hoax, but my take has always been - assuming its real - assuming we all should be scared - what's your proposal to correct it - that's an epic fail in the solution aspect. Which may be another conclusion the book may be drawing. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 09:12:35 Oh good and the book is about ????? The link I see is an article about Shellenberger and how Forbes removed his latest work that was posted on their site. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/20 at 09:25:32 The reason I posted it is because Its time for those who have been believing the whole load of garbage for 30 years to wake up and realize,, it was wrong.. Time to stop buying into the lies and get on with life.. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/02/20 at 10:12:52 7757555D4057320 wrote:
I don't know what the book is about - but the book review was on zerohedge - and it said Forbes put it on their site, and removed it, likely cos they couldn't find someone to talk over it and rob us. What ever their reason - the 7 and 8 month old articles didn't have anything about the book and the book review was presumably removed for whatever reason. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/02/20 at 10:29:30 And that Shellenberger guy - Isn't he the guy that landed the airplane in the east river … Yea awesome dude. I trust him. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 10:30:46 The book is called: "Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All" The article I referenced is called: "Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All" You think those are opposite? What about "Why Apocalyptic Claims About Climate Change Are Wrong" - by the Author of the same book. How is that opposite? |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/20 at 10:38:41 Everyone I know knows, yeah,, its changing,, and its been changing since the beginning of time, as far as we can tell.. But, the hysteria has been completely a load of crap.. and nothing they Told us was coming, has showed up,, Zero credibility,, and this guy is admitting it,, and he Was One of the fervent proponents,, Who can be so wrong, for so long, and expect people to continue to believe their Sky is Falling crap? NOBODY,,, But somehow,, the believers of this crazy ideology, just seem to prefer to continue to believe when they should be throwing rocks at the people who lied to them, over, and over,, |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/02/20 at 11:48:43 6A4A48405D4A2F0 wrote:
Because your links are people talking over the book. JOG - I guess you're saying what I'm saying as well and likely what Shellenberger is saying also - the solution proposed is just robbery, and the hysteria is there to disconnect you from reason and hand over the $$$ while doing nothing for the climate as such - cos - well its a robbery, they know the chit is fake. Or don't care real of fake, its just a robbery. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 11:55:07 "Because your links are people talking over the book" So the links I provided that are months old are talking about a book released less than a month ago? How is that? Those links do not reference the book in any way. In the 18 minutes it took you to respond to my post did you read those articles? How are they in conflict, or specifically "Opposite" of the content of the book or more importantly the Zerohedge reference of Forbes deleted article by the same Author? To me, the articles I linked are the same content. Literally the same words, as what was deleted from the latest Forbes article that was deleted. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/02/20 at 13:01:17 The content has been the same even when there was no book and people are tripping over themselves handing over my $$$ to their cronies. Read the articles. Zerohedge is a book summary that came out 2 days ago. Forbes put that up and deleted it (allegedly) 8 month old articles are arguing semantics over what he was going to put in the book likely cos he was interviewing people about how much of my $$$ will be taken out and handed to their friends. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/20 at 13:18:21 So there are some here in agreement,, and once again, we see the lefties fall silent,, unwilling to see the obvious. WHY would anyone continue to believe the people who have Gotten Exactly NOTHING' Correct? |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 13:31:18 "8 month old articles are arguing semantics over what he was going to put in the book likely cos he was interviewing people about how much of my $$$ will be taken out and handed to their friends." We are obviously not reading the same articles. The ones I posted, that are on Forbes today, are authored by Shellenberger. How is the author writing an article about BS climate alarmists, then publishing book, that uses the same words, from the same person, opposite? Shellenberger puts up an article about a 25% reduction in fires, then publishes a book referencing a 25% reduction in fires and somehow that is the "opposite"? |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 13:35:58 "So there are some here in agreement,, and once again, we see the lefties fall silent,, unwilling to see the obvious. WHY would anyone continue to believe the people who have Gotten Exactly NOTHING' Correct?" Lets keep in mind that the portions that are correct you have dismissed as not caring about it, or have excluded for whatever reasons. Your CO-2 algorithm was wrong and as such the final numbers were wrong. When I posted the correct algorithm that meteorologists use daily that was ignored. You referenced a CO-2 study you refuse to read and misrepresent the abstract to say the exact opposite of what the research said. You dismiss that based off of observed reality. So some of it is correct, but those parts are conveniently ignored. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/02/20 at 13:39:33 302F292E33340535053D2F23685A0 wrote:
That's really really hard to do when piles and piles of my $$$ are blocking their view. Tesla is over a 1200 today, beating Toyota by market cap handily - not even close. All in 10 yrs. If that doesn't cloud your judgement - you're not human. Obama would also see the truth, but his $25 million ocean front mansion is blocking his view. So would a lot of other people but again that mountain of $$$ just is hard to see around. So sadly they have the only option of infecting the people with a disease that kills their judgement. AKA Orange man badism, or TDS or whatever the crap. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/02/20 at 13:42:11 7F5F5D55485F3A0 wrote:
No they are not. They are excerpts of interviews by Shellenberger - likely part of his book research. And then there's editorial control. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 17:16:46 "No they are not. They are excerpts of interviews by Shellenberger - likely part of his book research. And then there's editorial control. " I see what you are saying. So is the editorial control Forbes or Shellenberger? |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/20 at 18:48:27 Excuse me,, but who actually f-cares about it? What is the POINT here? Isnt it The media and the so called scientific community ( which we have been assured is something north of 90% of climatologists agreeing,, creating A "consensus, and nobody,, I mean NOBODY dares go against a Consensus,, right?) have been working to keep people in a state of panic for thirty years? And LOOKING at the things theyve been TELLING us would happen,, and exactly NONE of the things they have been telling us would happen, have actually happened,, Yet,, the lefties who are members of this religion WILL NOT admit theyve been suckered,, and BOY have they been suckered,, but ya Cant pull the wool offa their eyes,, theyre determined to believe,, even after decades of It DIDNT FUKKIN HAPPEN<, Now,, they wont eveen argue,, because they know they lost,, they just dont wanna admit it,, |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 23:08:41 Who on here, as who is still on here that argued about this? |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/03/20 at 05:36:24 2606040C1106630 wrote:
Forbes has editorial control obviously, and Shellenberger's interviews are also selectively picked and in any case conclusions are drawn after research and analysis by Shellenberger and some others (likely) after all the interviews and information gathering. So its entirely possible to cherry pick interviews that forbes prefers and people talk over him and that was published 7-9 months ago - only to have the book come out and say the opposite in conclusion. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/20 at 10:24:32 09292B233E294C0 wrote:
Im pretty sure Row WAS a true believer,, is he still? Dammifino,, NOt sure just which names here have been on That side of the fence.. But,, based on this thread,, Im gonna say they have all been cured,, or stricken mute,, |
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Title: Re: Lookie! One decided to come clean Post by srinath on 07/03/20 at 12:27:14 There is a lot of people - not the big knows ones like diamond and silk, Hodge twins, but nobodies are seeing their youtube video's get deleted. The whole new favorite for librull media (which is 90% of media) is deleting stuff. They're coming for us, and our wallets, Trump's just in the way. They'e trying to rob us, and hand it to Elon Musk, Jack Dorsey, Zuckerberg etc. Cool. Srinath. |
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