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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/20 at 18:49:09

Title: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/20 at 18:49:09

Yep,, He just keeps hammering the top,, err, bottom, twenty places, saying ALL of them are democrat run,,
Uhh, NO,, Time to Call him on it!

This is not the dunk that they think it is
From the Washington Post:

Trump keeps claiming that the most dangerous cities in America are all run by Democrats. They aren’t.

Over and over, Trump has shared that terse phrase with his tens of millions of Twitter followers, including on Wednesday and Thursday. And over and over, he has tried to imply that Democrats broadly and former vice president Joe Biden specifically are soft on crime. That his likely general election opponent and other leaders in the Democratic Party are happy to have social structures collapse into anarchy for some unclear reason.

To make that case, Trump has repeatedly lifted up a statistical factoid, as he did during an event at the White House on Wednesday.

“You hear about certain places like Chicago and you hear about what’s going on in Detroit and other — other cities, all Democrat run,” he said. “Every one of them is Democrat run. Twenty out of 20. The 20 worst, the 20 most dangerous are Democrat run.”

This is factually incorrect and the Washington Post is going to hammer Trump because of it.

What is the information they are going to use?

https://gunfreezone.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/mayor-crime.png

http://https://gunfreezone.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/mayor-crime.png

Oh, 17 out of the 20 are and the top 10 absolute most violent are Democrat-run.

Let’s dig deeper. The mayor of Las Vegas is Carolyn Goodman, the wife of the former mayor Oscar Goodman. They are independents but were registered Democrats until 2009. Oscar Goodman was the Democrat mayor of Las Vegas for the first 10 years of his three terms in office.

The mayor of San Antonio is Ron Nirenberg, and while he is registered as an independent, he is a Progressive. He’s so Progressive that he is not a Democrat because he is Left of the Democrats (if that is even possible at this point).

The one I have no history for is Springfield Mayor, Ken McClure.

So while only 17 out of the 20 are Democrats, 19 out of the 20 are either Democrats, former Democrats, or Leftist/Progressives.

Jacksonville seems to be the odd one out.

When it comes to per-capita violence, the Republican drops off, and 19 of the 20 are Democrat.

For the Washington Post, Trump is completely wrong because only 95% of our most violent cities are Democrat-run instead of 100%.

From a statistical standpoint, it is possible to reject the null hypothesis with more than a 95% confidence interval, but it’s dodgy.

If there was ever a time for this GIF, it’s now.

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Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by srinath on 06/28/20 at 05:14:20

NYC in the 80's and early 90's was a total crime ridden chittehole - putting everything of today to shame. Trump the democrat contributor and real estate mogul - not the politician was the poster child of the rebuild - wasn't the most successful, profitable or even the likely biggest anything - but he was the face and name of that effort. He rarely ever gets credit for that obviously. Yea yea yea Disney cleaned up 42nd street off its hookers and crackheads, but Trump started that ball rolling.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/28/20 at 08:08:22

Yeah, but the list,, it says something,, just LOOK at the idiocy,,
Look, Man,, THESE people Believe they should RUN the Whole SHOW,,
Dont ya see how dangerous they are? Look at the ruin when they have soomething,,but they want to tell me and you How to live..
Gonna Make a Utopia dontchyaknow,,
They are the science deniers.
The facts are in
Gun control doent make for a safe society,
and the hyperventilating ove
But it makes it Safer

Is a lie
Ill take that Dangerous FREEDOM over safe enslavement to their ideology,

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by philthymike on 06/28/20 at 09:19:16

I lived in NYC in the late 80s and again at the turn of the Millennium.
But the 80s was bad times for sure. In Queens every housing projects was a crack dealer warzone. Hispanic gangs from Corona were raiding other neighborhoods and knifing people with reckless abandon. Had some very interesting confrontations with them myself.
Rachel Carson's IS237Q where I did time was literally a prison with metal detectors and armed guards and despite all that security I had black kids pulling knives on me all the time. At least until I made one of them regret it.
On the subway you had to hold onto your sneakers each time the lights went out or they'd be gone when the lights came on again.
I ran with a gang of car strippers. 5 of us could reduce a car to an empty shell in minutes. Then we set what was left on fire to get rid of evidence.
My favorite part was after the car was lit we'd race each other to the nearest call box to be the one to pull the lever for the fire Department.
I only ever got to do it one time.

During the summer I delivered Penny Savers all over the city for 2 bucks an hour. Got plenty of cardio in some neighborhoods.
Other ones were so bad we'd toss our papers in the sewer or over the fence for the expressway and just lay low for a couple hours somewhere relatively safe until we got picked up again. Sometimes we didn't get picked up and had to skitch home on the back bumpers of city busses.

A good time was had by all.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by srinath on 06/28/20 at 17:06:32

And Biden will bring that back and blame Trump for it.

Oddly much of the reduction in crime around the 2000's and later, was due to … abortions. The criminals were simply - not born.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/28/20 at 17:41:16

Oddly much of the reduction in crime around the 2000's and later, was due to … abortions. The criminals were simply - not born.

Ive read articles that out that theory forward,, Sounds reasonable enuff,,
A certain part of the populatin being around 15% manages to commit such a high percentage of the crime,,kill off enough of them with abortion,, see the crime rate drop,, its just math,, and simple science,, as someone who Isnt a science denier,, I can grasp it as a POssible,, I think more needs done to determine it as an absolute,, But its certinly plausible,,

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/28/20 at 19:52:51

How about THAT?
Trump, incorrect..
And not one lefty celebrating.
Nobody Crowing about
Orange Man Stupid..
I wonder why...

How can you people get dragged around by the obvious, and never change?
The only voting block democrats have who who aren't ashamed of being democrats are the dead ones.
Why keep pretending the democrat platform is anything but the pos it has shown itself to be..
How can anyone stand to be a democrat?

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by philthymike on 06/28/20 at 20:32:25

What I don't get is why blacks can stand to be democrats. Historically speaking democrats have had it in for black people since their very beginning in the plantation days before the Civil War. They were the ones that wanted to keep slavery.

And they did...

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by Eegore on 06/28/20 at 23:05:06

"Nobody Crowing about
Orange Man Stupid..
I wonder why..."

Not sure where you go but where I am there are plenty.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/20 at 08:38:11

In spite of the facts,, which SHOW democrat run places suck,,but all you lefties believe YOUR ways are The Best,,
LOOK at the cities you clowns have OWNED for decades!
SHITHOLES,,
But YOu guys are smarter,,UhHuhh,,
explain why,,

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by Eegore on 06/29/20 at 09:49:31

Righties think their way is the best and lefties think their way is the best.

The people that don't care are usually the ones that get the most work done in my experience.

Why exactly do we need to use a two-party system today? If I can be shown that some city planning measure is more efficient if X,Y and Z steps are followed, why would I say no because X and Y came from "the other side"?

This type of stuff is exactly why the military ignores politics when it comes to practical application where risk is involved. We can't do that guys, the General is a Democrat, we better find a Republican General to tell us what the plan is.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by srinath on 06/29/20 at 10:16:31

Yup, we need a BLM party, a BlueLM party, a biker party, a trucker party and a tailgate party.
That's how India works. Someone with 15% of the vote makes bank cos there's 12 fools splitting the 85%.

This chit is dumber than a box of rocks.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/20 at 10:21:33

https://gunfreezone.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/mayor-crime.png

http://https://gunfreezone.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/mayor-crime.png

Everyone can THINK whatever they want..
But, when the EVIDENCE is so overwhelmig,, WHY would anyone continue to defend an ideology that Sounds Lovely,, BUT,, in Practice, doesnt work as well as the practices of those who they besmirch and sneer at?

Maybe its time to Stop being Science Deniers and CHANGE what ya think, into a position that Aligns with the proven Facts..
Thinking the Tooth Fairy is real is fine,, when youre 3,, Its time to grow up and admit the facts of life..
The democrat WAYS are demonstrably failed.
And,,
If GUns were the problem,, All of this would be inverted,,
Can you dispute that?
If GUNS are the problem,, then wouldnt it be Republican cities that are more violent>?

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by philthymike on 06/29/20 at 11:20:47

We have 1 more party than Communist nations have. But one of those parties is Communist.

I'd get behind a military coup. I'd rather have the military run the country considering current options. Heck the Mafia might even be an improvement.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/20 at 14:14:11

091610170A0D3C0C3C04161A51630 wrote:

So,, E,, NOw youve changed your mind about the ideas that democrats say will create a Better Society, ? Or, evidence you dont like means nothing?

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by Eegore on 06/29/20 at 15:01:48

"So,, E,, NOw youve changed your mind about the ideas that democrats say will create a Better Society, ? Or, evidence you dont like means nothing?"

So JoG you want to reference where I have ever said anything even remotely close to that?

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/20 at 16:19:22

Whch one? I asked 2 questions

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by Eegore on 06/29/20 at 17:52:06

"NOw youve changed your mind about the ideas that democrats say will create a Better Society, ?"

When have I ever said anything remotely close to Democrats, or Republicans can create a better society?

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/20 at 20:39:39

Maybe I got you wrong, if so, I apologize..
I had concluded you were basically a democrat, not a lefty, but certainly not republican,,
Well, if that question doesn't apply to you, it is certainly there for everyone who does support democrats..
How can anyone see these facts and not feel compelled to really reevaluate Why they support democrats..
I know,, those guns came from somewhere else,,
Yeah , somewhere where They don't run around SHOOTING EVERYBODY..

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by Eegore on 06/29/20 at 21:32:10

I have no political affiliation. I could care less, I only read proposed policy and compare to completed policy.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/20 at 21:43:29

I don't know how you do that..
My head would explode..

My posts still await the answers

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/20 at 13:08:06

So now we have evidence,, scientific evidence, Showing the Democt=rat controlled places as being The Most violent,, 7 of twenty,, YET,, the Thinking that lefties embrace doesnt change?
How can you do that? How can anyone see evidence like this and NOT change you thinking? How do you still believe Gun Control solves any problems with these facts in fron of you?
Just Explain it,, help me understand,, because where Im standing,, everyone who believes gun control is Any kinda solution is just not looking at the inescapable, obvious truth..

Change My Mind,, PLEASE!!

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by srinath on 06/30/20 at 13:39:23

7 of 20 ? I thought it was 17 without counting per capita (like they count China virus deaths) and 19 out of 20 when counted per capita - d-uh, no wonder they don't like numbers per capita -

Anyway Lefty stupidity makes for a lot of crime. Lefty politics creates a lot of victim mentality as well as causes poverty and lack of opportunity.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/20 at 14:27:13

My finger failed to hit the 1,, yeah,, Its 17,,
Waiting on the logical explanations,, Im sure they will be posted soon,,

The Argument HAS been
The Gun control measures Would have worked
B UT
people snuck guns in from
Other PLaces..

Well,, WHAT other places?
PLaces where Guns arent so restricted? PLaces where guns are common?

And why arent THOSE places so violent?
Where are the guns coming from that upset the balance in your lefty utopia?
Why arent THOSE places wracked with even MORE gun violence,, since guns are so prevalent there AND we have concluded Gus are the problem,, Inanimate objects somehow drive people to violence?
Can someone help me get that???

Ill wait for the lefty, gun control believers to explain this,, I clearly am intellectually unable to grasp such a nuanced position,.

Anyone? Eau? Row? Anyone? Help me out here.. Change my mind,, Apply all that Logic you have..

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by srinath on 06/30/20 at 14:58:22

A the big contributor of murders in NYC back - I dunno maybe in the 90's or somewhere around then was supposedly legally bought guns in a less restrictive place like not too far away like WV or somewhere they said.
Now the assumption is - There's low crime in WV - which may or may not be valid, or even relevant. A state with 800,000 people has gun sales more than say a state with 30 million - low crime or not in that state wont matter, does a person need 40 guns for protection against crime ??? Its pretty clear stuff is getting exported out of the state. However nowadays its got much much much harder to buy a gun from anywhere you don't live. So it may be 20yr old numbers making no sense now, unless these are committed with 20 yr old guns.

So we may have a state with 800K population and it be stuck with 800K murders LOL, Like Biden's 150 million gun deaths since 2000, and putting 720 million women back to work because of giving them an 8K child care tax credit.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by philthymike on 06/30/20 at 14:58:55

Leftys do embrace change. Change from bad to worse.
Their brand of change is also known as entropy. They champion the heat death of the universe because the universe is racist!
All those White Holes....

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/20 at 15:41:38

does a person need 40 guns for protection against crime ?

Nobody's bidniss how many guns someone owns,, or ammo,,
Why would anyone Care? Cant shoot but one at a time,, right?

The 2A isnt about protection against crime,, its about throwing off a tyrannical government,
The Founders took for granted the right to self defense from criminals and hunting to provide for self and family,,That was part of life,, it was be able
Or be a snowflake,,

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by srinath on 06/30/20 at 15:57:13

That's not Phair Philthymike - or atleast it wasn't always fair.

For example - if you had no guns. You'd have no gun deaths. The first gun creates an infinite fold increase in the possibility of gun deaths. Mind you I didn't say crime or defence or accident or nothing like that. So here 2nd amendment has caused infinite times worse outcome that some criminal fool/honest denizen will be dead by gun. Infinite fold increase in gun death - Mind you not knife death, not hit by car death, not fall down a ravine death, not eaten by an alligator death, gun death.

Of course every next gun has no effect (infinite is still infinite) …

Libtards know that. They just know that. Its completely irrelevant, cos without guns a large portion of the dead, likely will still be dead both in offence or defense - maybe a larger number will get maimed … criminal fool will charge upon your log house with a rock, 15 mins later he will burst into your living room and you will hit him with dinner table leg and leave the fool stupider than when he started …

Did having no guns solve anything - yea it did, gun deaths = 0 in that scenario, libtards are happy.

That's the stupid reasoning behind some of this crap. Sorry aint happening.

But back in the 90's when a lot of crime was being committed in NYC and Phily and Newark etc, many were with Guns bought outside the city/states and just driven over. So libtards made guns harder to get where you don't have residence and valid ID - maybe there was a point there.
I dunno I didn't get to the US till 1992 and I spent my first year and a 1/2 in Reading PA and in Newark NJ - only to know what a hellhole those are and never returned. So am I missing something in the news tidbit I heard and may well mis remember a lot of murders in NYC were committed with guns bought in places with less restricitive gun laws and driven over - sometimes en-masse - like 100's in the trunk of a car ?

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by srinath on 06/30/20 at 15:59:05

3B242225383F0E3E0E36242863510 wrote:

I knew that - or I should have remembered that - but I was just talking about Crime deterrent and defensive use.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by Eegore on 06/30/20 at 16:18:22

"I don't know how you do that..
My head would explode.."

Looking at what a politician does instead of what a politician says would make your head explode?

I would think it's the other way around.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by philthymike on 06/30/20 at 16:36:59

@Srinath

You lived in Reading? And Newark? And you freely admit it? :P

I wish I could just let go the leash on my attack alligator. That would be so cool. They've got good straight line acceleration too.

The entire argument against guns is as dumb as it is pointless. It's dumb because crooks don't buy licensed guns in gunshops and pointless because trying to take guns away from Americans will fail - horrifyingly so.

So no, don't even go there.

Do go and look at doing something about all the glorification of gun violence you can't not see anymore. Every TV show and movies and music and pretty much everywhere you turn the answer to all life's problems is picking up a gun and murdering somebody or many somebody's. It's the cool hip thing to do. Last year in the neighborhood across the street from me a 14 Year-old black kid was shot in the back and died during a fist fight with a classmate. The 15 Y/O shooter quoted hiphop lyrics to the arresting officers. He's being tried as an adult.

The problem isn't the gun.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by srinath on 06/30/20 at 16:56:39

I lived in Fleetwood, Blandon and only visited Newark and NYC and once I got to WA state - Spokane on the ID border - yea it was done, never looked back.
Drove by within a few miles of my old house in Blandon in 2018 - wasn't even looking for it cos I was busy hoofing it to the nearest Cici's pizza near Lancaster.
Yea I also listen to NPR - but most of the time I see they're pushing 1/2 a$$ed 1/2 truth. Truth is on the street videos by various random people, but you gotta also keep an eye for the fakes there.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by philthymike on 06/30/20 at 17:14:01

I live across the street from Chester. Look at the cheerful headlines for Chester...

https://6abc.com/place/chester/

Lovely town. On the opposite side that neighborhood is filling up with people being gentrified out of Wilmington DE. I don't have a link for it but on an average good day Wilmington headlines read something like this...
Murder
Shooting
Rape
Stabbing
DWI death
Arson
Rape
Shooting
Shooting
Stabbing
Shooting Rape
Burglary
Arson
Rape
Strangling
Rape
Arson
Murder
Etc. Etc. Ad nauseam forever

Biden's pride and joy.
I lived there myself. Moved away after 5 black dudes put me in the hospital with the help of rocks and bricks.
It wasn't enough that it was 5 on one. No they also needed rocks and bricks. Even if I had a gun it wouldn't have done me any good. They were hiding behind the brick wall porch of an abandoned house and jumped out so fast I had no time to react before a brick hit me in the head and turned my vision white.

Take the guns. And get the bricks and rocks and overwhelming numbers instead.
I think I'd prefer getting shot to that.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by philthymike on 06/30/20 at 19:20:24

Police ID man shot and killed in Chester
Police: Suspect accidentally shot himself running from officers
Gas station gun battle leaves 2 dead in Chester
14-year-old wanted for shooting death of 79-year-old man in custody

Man shot in head at Chester corner store
Police ID suspect in ride-share driver murder

'10 Most Wanted' fugitive caught in Chester
2 teens arrested after allegedly stealing SUV with 2 children inside

Highlights of my neighboring community of lovable fuzzy happy democrats. What a hoot they all are!

Surprisingly there's no ANTIFA people living there....

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by srinath on 07/01/20 at 04:40:39

4F5756534B57465256545A3F0 wrote:

Surprisingly there's no ANTIFA people living there....

Ofcourse not, cos it doesn't look like any respectable 40-60 yr old families live there - which is necessary for Antifa to take hold, cos they're the good for nothing kids who have completed advanced degrees in Crap like "gender studies" and racked up 100's of 1000's in debt and are mooching off their parents and angry at the pickle jars they cant open and are smashing it on the floor.
So you need a rent free nice place to run and hide, and people to buy you stuff (pickles, beer bottles, pasta sauce etc etc) and tell you you're the best. Need well to do white parents for that.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by philthymike on 07/01/20 at 06:31:04

Or a trust fund to buy an $800K loft condo in a hipster trendy gentrified part of Philly.

One thing I noticed about my encounter with the 5 thugs is that they didn't stop to ask me if I'm a bleeding heart libtard that feels guilty for their 400 years of slavery.

And that's why you won't find libtards living in Chester. Deep down they know that their altruism and lip service to the black cause isn't going to save them from getting jumped, beaten or killed on the bad streets.

Like this guy just realized....
“Sad thing I’m on their side for peaceful demonstrations — am a Gay Progressive Dem Senator served 36 years in the legislature.”

https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime-and-courts/madison-police-searching-for-angry-mob-that-attacked-state-sen-tim-carpenter/article_e98c3013-efee-5621-83d5-5d355d63ed97.html

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/01/20 at 12:22:37

67787E7964635262526A78743F0D0 wrote:

nobody? cmon lefties,, change my mind
use facts, not feeeelings

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by MnSpring on 07/01/20 at 14:17:02

0F2F2D25382F4A0 wrote:
I have no political affiliation. I could care less, ...

Interesting.
I have never been to any L.G.B.xyz affair.
I simply do not associate with those people.

Just as I do not believe any LGB.xyz person,
does not go to gun shows, gun shops, gun events.

So when you say: "... where I am there are plenty ... "In reference to: "Crowing about Orange Man Stupid".

I can see why you are considered to be LEFT of center, in your political view.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by srinath on 07/01/20 at 14:32:07

4764597A7863646D0A0 wrote:

[quote author=0F2F2D25382F4A0 link=1593308949/15#19 date=1593491530]
I have no political affiliation. I could care less, ...

Interesting.
I have never been to any L.G.B.xyz affair.
I simply do not associate with those people.

Just as I do not believe any LGB.xyz person,
does not go to gun shows, gun shops, gun events.

So when you say: "... where I am there are plenty ... "In reference to: "Crowing about Orange Man Stupid".

I can see why you are considered to be LEFT of center, in your political view.
[/quote]

Yea neither have I, but unfortunately in the last few years I have had to work for employers who thought tose fools were unicorns who'd make the guys happy just by being there and the girls … well again by just being there …

Prize ducking Idiots.

Those morons hate women almost universally, if you're a Butch lesbo looking chick - yea they hate you even more.
Those Idiots think men like to be groped and fingered by other random men.
Those fools think wearing clothes that pass for sausage skin is appealing to men, and will not hesitate to show their junk - whatever little there is off to you, obviously in a place filled with men they always get a chubby - sorta like a straight man would when in a place filled with bikini models (not the average office faaaaaat woaaaaman wearing a bikini).

Worthless crap … seriously you only need to watch some crucial TV shows like Designated survivor, and when they propagate crap like this, you need to round up a plane full the fools and drop em off on top of their set.

Really working from home is the best thing ever to happen to me - I swear - if I have to go to the office, I'll basically switch jobs.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by philthymike on 07/01/20 at 14:52:27

After what BLM did to Sen. Tim Carpenter (see link in previous post) I think the LGBLT people should be up in arms. Can you imagine BLM VS Gays? :D
I'd pay real money to watch that go down!

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by Matchless G11 on 07/01/20 at 16:09:54

45445F5857425E360 wrote:

[quote author=4764597A7863646D0A0 link=1593308949/30#37 date=1593638222][quote author=0F2F2D25382F4A0 link=1593308949/15#19 date=1593491530]
I have no political affiliation. I could care less, ...

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by Eegore on 07/01/20 at 16:52:22

"So when you say: "... where I am there are plenty ... "In reference to: "Crowing about Orange Man Stupid".

I can see why you are considered to be LEFT of center, in your political view."

So I am LEFT of center, whatever that is, because geographically "... where I am there are plenty ... "In reference to: "Crowing about Orange Man Stupid"."

So when I am in the Middle East I am what?

Why would what people around me say dictate MY political view? What happens when I go to TX tomorrow and am surrounded by a ton of Pro-Trump people and hear them talking about how positive his impact has been? At that point will I be considered RIGHT of CENTER?

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by philthymike on 07/01/20 at 18:29:13

I read somewhere there's a movement amongst the lesbians to leave the LGBLT crowd and do their own thing. Apparently they are getting grief for not wanting to have sex with guys that wear woman's clothes. It's dykes VS trannys.
If it wasn't so pathetic it would be funny.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/01/20 at 21:15:33

So lesbians don't wanna have sex with women NOW? When did that start?
Ohhh, you're not Really gonna suggest that a " woman" who has a PeeNiss isn't really a woman, are ya?
That's hilarious

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by Matchless G11 on 07/02/20 at 04:49:05

Back when I was in high school I fell madly in love with a girl, a very shy and pretty Emily Dickson look alike. She would not have anything to do with me. But I never forgot her, and later on she became the editor for my novel. Sadly she passed away in 2018 from stomach cancer. After her death, I found out reasons from her mom why Sarah was the way she was. Sarah had been molested by a close male relative. She became a lesbian in college leading to a bunch of toxic relationships.
I have wondered, if she had not been molested, would she have become my wife?

The reason why I bring up this story is I wonder how many lesbians, gays, trans and whatever have been the victims of sexual abuse as a children?

The Elephant in the room probably can be tied to abuse or neglect.

It seem we must celebrated the "rainbow crowd" by ignoring how they got that way. A sad crowd of broken people.
:(

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by philthymike on 07/02/20 at 05:16:02

Not all is colorful in rainbowland. The lesbos don't want penus unless it's made out of rubber. The trannys are crying discrimination over it.
Boohoo.

And that's what is so childish with all these various victimhood groups is it's become a competitive sport. Who's victimhood is the most victimy. Slavery or holocaust? Deportation or discrimination? Inequality or toxic masculinity? May the most victimized win.
But for the losers. The ones whose victim status goes down a notch. There's resentment, jealousy and dissent. Being identified as a victim is a source of pride and social status and leverage for demanding unequal rights. But if the victimhood of trannys is more important what does that say? And how much leverage do you sacrifice? How much less virtue signaling is directed to your group?

It's a sick and twisted mentality. A neurosis. A sculpture of despair.
Playing the blame game removes the burdens of responsibility and accountability. Allows even the most despicable pedophile crackhead to be self-righteous in their own mind. It's the hallmark of civilization in decline. The return to tribalism.

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by Eegore on 07/02/20 at 05:31:57

"I read somewhere there's a movement amongst the lesbians to leave the LGBLT crowd and do their own thing. Apparently they are getting grief for not wanting to have sex with guys that wear woman's clothes. It's dykes VS trannys."

Can you reference this?

Title: Re: Trump,, Factually Incorrect,, and the found it
Post by srinath on 07/02/20 at 07:07:33

BTW they also dislike immigrants - legal and illegal, they also believe quite accurately I might say - without the enmasse influx, they would be getting fairer treatment at work. And I think that definitely has hit black people too. But politics is the science of voting against your self interest, so the left marches on making a claim that racist president will disenfranchise you all while they're the ones doing it. However Idiots like Lindsay Graham toss out the canard that they don't understand how the economy works.
I would guess that's how the "economy" works, however job market is not economy. I can see a shrinking economy but rising employment if the workforce is shrinking faster either by deportation, attrition etc. Not by lay offs and companies closing.

Cool.
Srinath.