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Message started by eau de sauvage on 03/31/20 at 15:45:22

Title: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/31/20 at 15:45:22

Whereas the 'strongman' dictators are naturally using the pandemic to consolidate power, 'weakman' would be authoritarian Trump, doesn't even know how to use this opportunity, which is ironic in the extreme considering that he invoked fictitious emergencies to try and push his racist agenda.

But while the US pursues an america first policy, China, having shown how to contain the virus in a population 4 times the size of the US, is using the situation which is likely to go on for a year, to gradually replace the US as an influential player on the world stage.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/south-america/as-virus-approaches-china-courts-latin-america-with-medical-diplomacy-20200327-p54elu.html

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by srinath on 03/31/20 at 16:50:18

Yup, yup yup by kicking out all the journalists who might report on the actual dead.

Working good I would say, all libtards are falling for that agenda.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by pg on 04/01/20 at 04:51:09

Take 8 minutes to watch this video.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X03DeM0EldI[/media]

Best regards,

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by srinath on 04/01/20 at 07:55:14

Yea this is an economic weapon now after being a bioweapon made up in a lab. Released by accident ? or intent ? Doesn't even matter, but the cover up and lies and non answers are telling.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by Eegore on 04/01/20 at 16:59:45

If this is bioengineered China has won. They have a virus that can be manufactured leaving no trace, which is the equivalent of having ammunition that turns into something else after killing it's target.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/01/20 at 17:40:18

Weapons that explode in your face and kill you arent very useful.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by srinath on 04/02/20 at 06:19:00

735351594453360 wrote:

There is no doubt this virus was housed in a lab. That part is not under dispute, horseshoe bats don't live near that market in Wuhan, not for 900km. That's like a farmer taking bats nearly the entire length of florida to sell bats.
It may not have been made in a lab. They may have just been studying it, they may have not intended it as a weapon. They could have just negligence as their defense, not malice. In nay case, we need to penalize china to reverse the economic and human toll they have taken.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by Eegore on 04/02/20 at 17:46:17

"There is no doubt this virus was housed in a lab. That part is not under dispute,"

Actually there is major doubt, but only by people who work in bioweaponry. People that have never heard the word epidemiologist until last month are the one's that are sure it is a weaponized virus. By pulling information from their home off the internet they have far exceeded the knowledge of anyone in the field doing the actual work.

If only we could get all these armchair virus experts into an accredited lab to tell the professionals how it really is.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/02/20 at 19:35:34

That there aare no Gene splicing traces or clues that a scientist BUILT it doesnt mean it was brought into existence by putting a milder virus in an environment that would feed it and give it an environment that would enhance its liklihood of mutating.
Once it was out in public, China DIDNT take steps to halt the spread,they chose to lie, and suppress the trugth. People who spoke out and tried to warn the world were shut down. One lady doctor is missing..
They may not have intentionally built it, but may well have allowed it to mutate into its current form. And they Certainly chose to allow travel when they knew that responsible action would have been to stop loadig their people on airliners to visit places across the globe,,

The pain that we should visit on their economy is YUGE,,,
and the notion that drugs and military equipment etc. currently made in China ?? Well,, thats STEWPID..

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/03/20 at 02:42:45

Even Foxnews are not going with this conspiracy theory.

https://www.foxnews.com/science/the-coronavirus-did-not-escape-from-a-lab-heres-how-we-know

What this thread is referring to is in fact the using this pandemic to increase their soft diplomacy to build up influence, which has been accelerating as the USA isolates itself.

America has unsurpassed military might and enough nukes to kill everyone everywhere many times over. But some problems are not solved by might alone.

Sure if you have a dirty headlight, you can get a hammer and smash the glass out, but getting your neighbours kid to wash your car because he owes you, may be a better solution.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by srinath on 04/03/20 at 02:52:50

544B4D4A5750615161594B470C3E0 wrote:

Yes China weaponized the virus after it got out. Its target - the free world and their way of life as well as economy manufacturing etc etc.

Now about it not being in a lab - this bat does not live in Wuhan area. Other bats do, just not this one. Its like saying a small fisheman/hunter in a market in Montana selling alligators native to the southeast -
https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/uw230

Makes no freaking sense. But say I was a lab in Montana and had developed a Gator bite suit among other bullet proof suits this is just 1 product I'm making. There it makes sense to get a few alligators and have them bite me wearing the suit. LOL.
People that sell produce and animals at a wet market are the brokest of the broke in most cases. They wont be transporting anything they cant carry on their backs or their bicycles. Even in china people act in their self interest - d-uh. And so do labs. Likely the labs experimented on the bats. Then someone chopped it up and sold it as bat meat, or fed to other animals instead of "wasting it". Was the virus the result of china making it - no, but was it the result of someone being filthy/cheap/negligent/ignorant ? Definitely.
China now is hiding information, hiding and cremating the dead and covering up the news and cranking up its economic engine by simply manufacturing its way out, feeding dead bodies to its ambition of world domination. You know after the 2nd world war when germany lost - people in villages across germany even the ones that had nothing to do with fighting in the war ended up just killing themselves. The promise of world domination is a huge motivating factor. It can lead people conditioned to hear and obey (which is China to T) to perform ultimate sacrifices, and that is what we are seeing here. If that domination dream is taken away - and it will be - depending on how suddenly it is, we will see mass suicides or - well a flatter curve of suicides. What needs to be done is the leadership in china needs to be entirely eradicated, while serious man power and counselling needs to be deployed - all by china - completely internal, because the rest of the world does not have the manpower to do this - Take out all politicians at all levels, and send out millions if not 100's of millions of volunteers to the population to prevent those suicides. The alternative would be to - well let them crash and burn by economic isolation. Or well, we all learn to say "how high" in Chinese. I think ironically its hooo haaaiiiiiigghhh

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by MnSpring on 04/03/20 at 08:10:53

49696B637E690C0 wrote:
If only we could get all these armchair virus experts into an accredited lab to tell the professionals how it really is.

Would that be similar to a politician, (Or UL, DFI, FDS, Socialist)
Seeing a shooting with a certain firearm, then decides banning that firearm, will stop all such shootings ?
Or, expects that putting up a sign, will ban firearms from where that that sign is ?
Or, writing more laws, which say the same things as the laws on the books now, which are ignored ?
Or other absolute, Fairy Dust Sprinkling, solutions ?

In other words:
If only we could get all these armchair firearm experts,
(especially those that, ””say””, they have a firearm),
to understand how the real world of firearms works.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by MnSpring on 04/03/20 at 08:14:18

34263231262022470 wrote:
China, having shown how to contain the virus in a population 4 times the size of the US,

From a UL Favored source, "Time".
"...relief efforts have been undermined by opportunism and bungling by mercenary vendors and a Chinese Communist Party (CCP) desperate to spin the pandemic, which began within its borders, for its own propaganda purposes..."

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/03/20 at 08:22:12

Sorry to remind the hard of reading about the thread topic, but this one is about China using the USA's America First Fcuk Everyone Else policy, to enhance their already active soft diplomacy, by conspicuously helping other countries, now that their problem is under control.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by Eegore on 04/03/20 at 08:27:13

"Would that be similar to a politician, (Or UL, DFI, FDS, Socialist)
Seeing a shooting with a certain firearm, then decides banning that firearm, will stop all such shootings ?
Or, expects that putting up a sign, will ban firearms from where that that sign is ?
Or, writing more laws, which say the same things as the laws on the books now, which are ignored ?
Or other absolute, Fairy Dust Sprinkling, solutions ?

In other words:
If only we could get all these armchair firearm experts,
(especially those that, ””say””, they have a firearm),
to understand how the real world of firearms works."

Its not like that.

But if we need to turn every thread into a gun control issue then yes I would say that the people that use firearms have more knowledge about firearms than those that don't.

But in this case the guys on this forum are an exception. Their internet searching has made them far more knowledgeable on most topics than anyone doing the actual work in the actual environment.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by WebsterMark on 04/03/20 at 08:28:03

No, this thread is about yet another TDS inspired rant based on blind hatred and ignorance. Let’s face it, if this is what you’re basing your position on:

But while the US pursues an america first policy, China, having shown how to contain the virus in a population 4 times the size of the US, is using the situation which is likely to go on for a year, to gradually replace the US as an influential player on the world stage.

...you’re not to be taken seriously.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/03/20 at 08:50:27

I'm basing my position that China is further enhancing it's soft diplomacy and influence in the world by taking advantage of the pandemic, by the fact that that is what they are doing.

To give an analogy I'm basing my position that the sky appears blue, by the blueness of the sky.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by srinath on 04/03/20 at 08:54:02

47554142555351340 wrote:

Yes I agree, and that was the intent (or atleast the intent after the fact). That's why the cover up, the feeding bodies into the factories - and soft and hard power is expanding - exactly what the doctor ordered to produce global domination.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by MnSpring on 04/03/20 at 09:31:12

1C3C3E362B3C590 wrote:

“...Its not like that…”
“...But in this case the guys on this forum are an exception.
Their internet searching has made them far more knowledgeable,
on most topics than anyone doing the actual work in the actual environment…”

Explain why not.

Why, do Firearm haters/grabbers/banners/etc people,
who receive their knowledge from other, Firearm haters/grabbers/banners/etc.
Who do, what they are told to do by, Firearm haters/grabbers/banners/etc.
Who obtain their information from Firearm haters/grabbers/banners/etc media sources.
Are any different, (in your opinion), than people that do not work in a virus containment field,
and obtain their information from independent sources ?

“...But if we need to turn every thread into a gun control issue…”
What is a person, who answers a question not asked, or makes a statement not relevant called ?

“... I would say that the people that use firearms have more knowledge about firearms than those that don’t…”

Do I have more knowledge of Firearms then you, Bot, tt, eds, and others that comment negatively about firearms ?
Don’t know. (Guessing I do). I would have to interview you, see how you handle one, and see you shoot to know for sure.
Do you have more knowledge about virus containment than I ? (Guessing you do)

So when, many, Many, MANY others, say banning a model of firearm will not stop a crime, or putting up a sign will not stop violence, or creating laws that mirror laws that are on the books that are being ignored. And that More Guns equal Less Crime.
It is NOT to be believed ???

Yet when you, say a virus was not, ‘created’, or ‘unleashed’, everybody is to totally, without question, believe it ?
And bow, tug at their forelocks, and say: ‘yes sir - yes sir’.

Really ?

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by WebsterMark on 04/03/20 at 09:48:02

You “see” the blue sky because China told you it’s blue but evidence points to the likelihood it’s not. You see blue because with Trump, all you see is red.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/03/20 at 18:12:24

Sure, everyone is biased, anyone who doesn't parrot Trump, is a libtard. Black is white and up is down. Got it.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by Eegore on 04/03/20 at 22:16:49

"Explain why not.

Why, do Firearm haters/grabbers/banners/etc people,
who receive their knowledge from other, Firearm haters/grabbers/banners/etc.
Who do, what they are told to do by, Firearm haters/grabbers/banners/etc.
Who obtain their information from Firearm haters/grabbers/banners/etc media sources.
Are any different, (in your opinion), than people that do not work in a virus containment field,
and obtain their information from independent sources ?"

Its not like that because I was referring to virology and epidemiology and not firearms. But as I said already, I do think people who use firearms have more knowledge of them than people who do not.

"What is a person, who answers a question not asked, or makes a statement not relevant called ?"

They are called a person who has answered an unasked question, or a person who made an irrelevant statement.

"Do I have more knowledge of Firearms then you, Bot, tt, eds, and others that comment negatively about firearms ?
Don’t know. (Guessing I do). I would have to interview you, see how you handle one, and see you shoot to know for sure.
Do you have more knowledge about virus containment than I ? (Guessing you do)"

I've run live-fire and simulation drills for companies and governments all over the world (thus my travels in S America, Syria, Iraq etc.), I have referenced this in the past. We allow, with certain restrictions, for civilians to take part, I've offered this in the past. I extend this invitation to you. This will give you the opportunity to assess my skill set with firearms.

So let me ask this again: When have I ever commented "negatively" about firearms? My assessment is disagreeing with the red car logic is not negative to firearms as I still feel firearms should be owned by legal US citizens, I just think the red car logic is poor. The logic, not the gun.

So when have I actually commented "negatively" about gun ownership for legal, law abiding US citizens?

"So when, many, Many, MANY others, say banning a model of firearm will not stop a crime, or putting up a sign will not stop violence, or creating laws that mirror laws that are on the books that are being ignored. And that More Guns equal Less Crime.
It is NOT to be believed ???"

I never said that. I have always said banning specific gun types will not lead to less firearm crime, please reference where I have said otherwise. I have always said signage will not alter criminal intent, please reference where I have said otherwise. I have always said legal restructuring using current laws as basis and to use basis as exclusionary guidelines for new law, please reference where I have said otherwise.

"Yet when you, say a virus was not, ‘created’, or ‘unleashed’, everybody is to totally, without question, believe it ?
And bow, tug at their forelocks, and say: ‘yes sir - yes sir’."

No, I never said that, you did. I said that I will prioritize the information provided by people with decades of experience working in a field that present tangible evidence over people who are sitting at home, who never seen a virus in real life, that claim they know more than people doing the work in the real world because they looked up some articles on the internet.

"Really ?"

No. Almost everything you claimed I said is false. Please reference where I have made the statements you are claiming I did.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/04/20 at 00:29:09

Yet when you, say a virus was not, ‘created’, or ‘unleashed’, everybody is to totally, without question, believe it ?

Some things are a matter for understanding and some things are a matter for belief. With 'beliefs' there is the religious 'blind faith', that is not the type of 'belief' we want here.

There is another type of belief which is dependent on later verification and the important thing is that it can be verified. For example I've lived in London and if you ask me about it not having been there, I will tell you and that is a belief pending verification of a fact.

However we have no choice but put our faith in certain authorities.

I may ask, do you believe that atoms are real, that electrons exist in orbital with very strange shapes. You're never going to be able to verify this, however if you want to work with electrons you have to believe it and it's a reasonable belief.

Now with regards to this virus being man made, when ALL as in every single genetic lab in the world has not doubt whatever that this is a naturally occurring virus, then you have to believe that or you believe nothing. You'd never get on your bike, you have to believe that the person coming towards you in a semi trailer is fit to drive.

Russia could not hide it's molecular fingerprints on the nerve agent that was used on the Skripals.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/13/russia-tested-nerve-agent-on-door-handles-before-skripal-attack-uk-dossier-claims

Same with the Russian agents who laced the tea with polonium 210. They were able to obtain the nuclear signatures to pin it down to it's source.

As I said, no genetic lab anywhere in the world is questioning this.

All the above of course has nothing to do with the fact that the suggestion that China would unleash a bio weapon on the world is utterly ludicrous. To what purpose?

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by MnSpring on 04/04/20 at 14:29:59

796B7F7C6B6D6F0A0 wrote:

"... anyone who doesn't parrot Trump, is a libtard...."

And everyone that loves FREEDOM is a ... ?

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by MnSpring on 04/04/20 at 14:55:05

624240485542270 wrote:
"... I've run live-fire and simulation drills ... I have referenced this in the past. ..."

You have mentioned it numerous times.
I am not impressed.
Everyone knows teachers that teach, because they cannot do.

" ...I extend this invitation to you..."
I'll decline.

"... When have I ever commented "negatively" about firearms? ..."
I remember a discussion where you wanted to Rewrite, the 2nd Amendment !
I believe their is only one reason someone would want to do that.

"Yet when you, say a virus was not, ‘created’, or ‘unleashed’,
No, I never said that, you did.
Must have read:
"... no nation's laboratory thus far can see any signs of it...."
"..."Replication" leaves considerable evidence that has not been seen..."
wrong then.

I'll 'splain the Point, (just like one has to 'splain a point to eds)
The, 'armchair experts', as you say, about the Virus, are all wrong.
Yet the, 'armchair experts', about firearms are spot on !

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by srinath on 04/04/20 at 14:57:21

44564241565052370 wrote:

Yet when you, say a virus was not, ‘created’, or ‘unleashed’, everybody is to totally, without question, believe it ?

I don't know who this "everybody" you are referring to here but I have never said it was a created or a bio weapon or anything.
I am saying this - If the labs had it, and its the most likely scenario, they could have just been studying it, then it got disposed off by feeding it to other animals or just sold as bat meat in the market next door. That would simply be negligence, profiteering, saving $$$ whatever.

If lab didn't have it, and the sellers @ the market found a bat cave and picked them up, that's a case of poverty in the middle of "booming" economy - which is again due to the fact that china is a slave camp.

Your only leg to stand on is if you can prove it did not come from china. This is a china virus. They pay people nothing so they eat bat meat sold unhyigenically. Or they have labs save $ or make a lil extra by selling off the dead animals after experiments.

The best 2 cases. Again - unless these things come out of another country these are the best 2 options for corona and SARS. We don't blame China for Ebola, but we blame them for this fair and square. These above 2 options are the best, it gets worse from there.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by Eegore on 04/04/20 at 15:50:24

"You have mentioned it numerous times.
I am not impressed.
Everyone knows teachers that teach, because they cannot do."

I agree, however we are active in the exercises and instruction, we do not "run exercises" by standing in a classroom and we need to meet or exceed the requirements of the program we teach. I didn't "teach" how to get virulent strains through potential hostile territory, I did it. I was a TC for the NRA for a period of time, you can not do that from a classroom. My experience is that the only people who question the credibility of our program material are those that will not take part. I'm sure you have more general knowledge of firearms, and most likely firearm history than I do as my training has been mostly specialized in modern military-use firearms, munitions and ordnance, however I am open to any examination you want to give me since I will most likely learn something.

"I remember a discussion where you wanted to Rewrite, the 2nd Amendment !
I believe their is only one reason someone would want to do that."

I didn't want to rewrite the 2nd Amendment in full. If someone wanted to rewrite the 2nd Amendment to say: "All legal US law abiding citizens can possess without restriction all forms of firearms, and as such no Government may influence, control, study, or alter the methods in which legal US law-abiding citizens can possess said firearms." Would that be a pro-gun control measure by your definition? Since the only reason one would rewrite the 2nd is to control gun ownership.

I suggested the alteration of the term "organized militia" because it is a major argument for gun control. You refuse to acknowledge that part of my statements. The part I want to remove is where pro-gun control uses an advantage. I want to weaken gun control by removing the most used portion of their argument.

So I will ask again: How exactly is that anti-gun?

"The, 'armchair experts', as you say, about the Virus, are all wrong.
Yet the, 'armchair experts', about firearms are spot on !"

I didn't say that, you did. I said I will prioritize people who do the work in the field and have for decades over people who became experts last week by looking up articles on the internet from the safety of their own home.

They may be right, I just won't use their evidence first, which is what prioritization is.

Also I will say again: I agree that people who use firearms are more knowledgeable than people who don't. You won't acknowledge that so you can continue to say I am pro-gun control when I have actually said the opposite for years.

At least all this is documented here so everyone else can clearly see the truth.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by eau de sauvage on 04/04/20 at 17:07:43

@Mn And everyone that loves FREEDOM is a ... ?

A human being. Freedom is alway freedom from something. In the case of the human being they want freedom from the feeling that they lack. Freedom from being a wanting person.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/20 at 17:37:28

54465251464042270 wrote:

Freedom from oppression. Freedom from idiots demanding we acknowledge and support their SJW whining. Feeling that they LACK? Nothing is more inspirational than feeling 'Less Than
than knowing in the heart
Youre Not Up to the task. Nothing mAKES SOMEONE DIG DEEPER INTO THEMSELVES IN ORDER TO ACHIeve than coming up short.Sorry about the caplox...

Trying to design society to protect people from feeling
less than
does them And society a disservice.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by Eegore on 04/04/20 at 17:48:47

Would the ability to publicly declare opposite gender be considered a freedom?

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/20 at 18:24:35

Declare what ya want
doesnt make it true
I got a T shirt printed up

I Identify as
Tall, Dark, Handsome
AND
Independently wealthy
And I demand everyone treat me as if its TRUE..

Yeah,, It worked as well as the
No Guns Allowed signs stopped homicidal maniacs.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by MnSpring on 04/04/20 at 18:27:36

2A382C2F383E3C590 wrote:
"... Freedom is alway freedom from something...."

I would say, Freedom,
is NOT being restricted,
from something.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by MnSpring on 04/04/20 at 18:31:55

485751564B4C7D4D7D45575B10220 wrote:
"... I Identify as
Tall, Dark, Handsome
AND
Independently wealthy
And I demand everyone treat me as if its TRUE..."

LOLOLOLOL LOVE it !!!!
Gonna make me one of them.

(And make a sign saying I have Corona)

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/20 at 18:35:51

Be sure to include your preferred pronoun

Sir

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by MnSpring on 04/05/20 at 09:23:49

4666646C7166030 wrote:

"... I suggested the alteration of the term "organized militia"..."

Words like: Gay, Plunger, Artificial, Brave, and Many others.
Had completely different meanings 250 years ago then today.
So by the same thoughts, all writings that used those words,
need to be rewriten ?

A book 250 years ago that said; ”That man is Gay”.
Needs to be rewritten to say; “That man is happy” ?
Or; “That man is a Plunger”
to; "That man is a Gambler" ?

What about, ‘Manufacture’,
250 years ago it was only something created by hand.
today it is something created by a machine.
(For the DFI FDS Socialists who say;
'the 2nd only means a Flintlock’)

Far better to simply educate, on the meaning of words.
(Oh, forgot, schools don’t teach that anymore, because the teachers don’t know)
Then to placate people that do not understand,
don’t want to learn,
are blinded by hatred of Firearms, (much like the TDS encountered today),
that they refuse to see the facts in front of their face.

"... How exactly is that anti-gun?..."

Opening up the 2nd to a rewrite will mean
it will be word crafted to remove Freedom !

Who are, what political affirmation do the people have,
that want to rewrite the, or parts of, the Constitution ?

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/05/20 at 12:02:29

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Remember, Regulated THEN could well have had a different implication. Hafta go to a Reall Old Blacks Law Dictionary. Notice how much Regulated and Regular have in common. There were many calibers of guns back then,, and each required the correct lead ball. Having a community of people,, who make up the militia, the able bodied citizens, with mostly common caliber weapons meant the community coulod store ammunition in quantity and getting the correct ammo to each member woulod be much easier.
The constitution is a document that Limits the Power and authority of the government.
There just isnt any way to be confused by
Shall Not Be Infringed.
No mention of target shooting or hunting. The second amendment is written to make it possible for the People to cast off tyrannical government. Period.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by MnSpring on 04/05/20 at 13:00:03

6D7274736E6958685860727E35070 wrote:
"... There were many calibers of guns back then,, and each required the correct lead ball. Having a community of people,, who make up the militia, the able bodied citizens, with mostly common caliber weapons meant the community could store ammunition in quantity and getting the correct ammo to each member would be much easier..."

Well, REGULATED !!!!

"... There just isn't any way to be confused by
Shall Not Be Infringed..."

Open it up, then let Chuck and Nancy with the help of BS and AOC,
They'll fix it !

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D
;D ;D
;)

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by Eegore on 04/05/20 at 15:30:53

"Words like: Gay, Plunger, Artificial, Brave, and Many others.
Had completely different meanings 250 years ago then today.
So by the same thoughts, all writings that used those words,
need to be rewriten ?"

Not to remove the power that gun control advocates are using. Why argue semantics of unrelated things when it's very obvious that the term "Regulated Militia" is being misunderstood? Changing "Gay" will not help you there so I'd say your question is not advancing your cause. But keep asking it and see if it changes anyone's mind about gun control.

"Far better to simply educate, on the meaning of words.
(Oh, forgot, schools don’t teach that anymore, because the teachers don’t know)"

So you are acknowledging that the education system is inaccurate, yet you want the education system to resolve this problem. Keep up with that and see if it changes anyone's mind about gun control.

"Opening up the 2nd to a rewrite will mean
it will be word crafted to remove Freedom !"

Not what I asked. Lets re-look at the question in context: What part of the following sentence promotes gun control?

"All legal US law abiding citizens can possess without restriction all forms of firearms, and as such no Government may influence, control, study, or alter the methods in which legal US law-abiding citizens can possess said firearms."

It's like saying amending the Constitution to include women's voting rights will open it up to remove Freedom! Some changes are positive.

My point is the term "Regulated Militia" is a powerful and often used term within gun-control circles to alter the perception of the 2nd Amendment. Complaining does not advance knowledge on this issue, presenting legal arguments, social media campaigns, public outreach and things of that nature do. Handing out business cards about losing a customer will not change law, social movement does. Look at how marijuana was legalized, it wasn't by complaining about how legal it should be.

"Who are, what political affirmation do the people have,
that want to rewrite the, or parts of, the Constitution ?"

I don't know, I am open to any statistics you are willing to provide.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by srinath on 04/05/20 at 16:06:28

5D7E436062797E77100 wrote:

Words like: Gay Plunger,

That was what Buttageig was called wasn't it ;D

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: China uses CoV smarter.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/05/20 at 16:24:23

All legal US law abiding citizens can possess without restriction all forms of firearms, and as such no Government may influence, control, study, or alter the methods in which legal US law-abiding citizens can possess said firearms

That Sounds good.. and its a ood start, Keeping the boobs from rewriting the laws and not creating nitpicking laws to make criminals of good peaople is a problem, but your answer is a REALLY good start, IMO.