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Title: Finally a Draconian measure Post by Eegore on 03/31/20 at 07:20:33 http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/nyc-bar-operator-the-1st-person-arrested-for-violating-covid-19-executive-order/ar-BB11Vdry?ocid=ientp So I've heard this is "Unconstitutional" and that the US and State Government can not stop business owners from running their business. This is the first one, so claims of this happening prior are either inaccurate, or NYPD's public reporting is inaccurate. Given there were no precautions in the US Constitution for pandemics I'd say a direct reference is not possible. However businesses can be shut down for many reasons, such as health code violations, not paying taxes, not having a liquor license, serving alcohol to minors, unsafe working conditions etc. Are these also unconstitutional? What part, if any, of arresting a bar owner in violation of a legal order to close, is unconstitutional? |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by pg on 03/31/20 at 07:36:14 I bet the bar or restaurant owner who is going to loose his business and home will have a different point of view. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by Eegore on 03/31/20 at 07:48:26 "I bet the bar or restaurant owner who is going to loose his business and home will have a different point of view." I'm sure they will. But having a point of view does't make it so. If that bar owner's opinion was that children can drink alcohol that doesn't make it legal. If it's not unconstitutional to close a bar for selling liquor to children, or for failing to sanitize their tap-lines making people sick, why is it unconstitutional to stop them from creating a place for people to congregate thus spreading a virus? What makes the closure of establishments for public safety "unconstitutional"? I would think the laws that allow it to happen would have been challenged already. For instance in Humphrey v. Cady the US Supreme Court made this ruling: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/405/504/ I'm just not seeing why this public safety issue is unconstitutional when others aren't. |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by MnSpring on 03/31/20 at 08:07:07 " ...-1st-person-arrested-for- ..." Not True. That person was NOT the first ! And the NY person was arrested because. No New York State liquor license, unlicensed bottle club, promoting gambling, criminal nuisance. Now did the, 'No liquor license', come from the state pulling the license, because of the new order, or for another reason ? Don't think they had any, gamboling, license. And, 'criminal nuisance', don't know, were they attached to some sort of Mafia type organization ? Yet, "Including - but not limited to" First used by Lawyers writing a contract to protect their clients. Now used by Lazy bureaucrats to remove any freedom you have, that does not fit with their solipsistic political view. |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by Eegore on 03/31/20 at 08:19:51 "Not True. That person was NOT the first !" Who was the first in NY? Also, what part of his arrest is unconstitutional? "Now did the, 'No liquor license', come from the state pulling the license, because of the new order, or for another reason ?" Not sure, but if the state suspended licenses as part of the order its pretty much the same thing. Forced closure. What part of closing bars is unconstitutional? What about SARS-COV-2 makes this a Constitutional issue, but serving children, or having unsanitary taps isn't? Or is it unconstitutional to close any business for any reason? |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by pg on 03/31/20 at 08:25:14 1C3C3E362B3C590 wrote:
I believe their are multiple violations to the constitution. A pastor was recently arrested in Florida, the LA mayor said he was going to cut off the utilities to business who did not abide by his mandate. I have no legal background; however, I believe they get around this when a state of emergency is declared. Ok, how about the Patriot Act, or the indefinite dentation of US Citizens? They craft the laws to suit which way the wind is blowing that day. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by pg on 03/31/20 at 08:27:01 Thinking about a bill of rights, correct me if I am wrong... I don't believe Australia has a formal document, only an interpretation. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by Eegore on 03/31/20 at 08:42:15 "I don't believe Australia has a formal document, only an interpretation." I don't know. Why do you ask? "Ok, how about the Patriot Act, or the indefinite dentation of US Citizens? They craft the laws to suit which way the wind is blowing that day." I'd be willing to discuss those in a separate topic. In this one I am asking what is unconstitutional specific to the SARS-COV-2 social distancing orders. I'm not saying corruption isn't a concern, if I recall correctly San Francisco targeted Chinese citizens when fighting bubonic plague through quarantine. My questions are: Is limiting legal drinking ages unconstitutional? Is requiring the cleaning of equipment to stop disease and sickness in customers unconstitutional? Is closing a physical space that will facilitate the spreading of a virus unconstitutional? What specifically make SARS-COV-2 social distancing unconstitutional? Or: Is it unconstitutional to close a business for any reason? |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by MnSpring on 03/31/20 at 09:14:14 68484A425F482D0 wrote:
Who said the first was in NY ? "...is it unconstitutional to close any business for any reason?..." So in your view, it is perfectly OK to block (something/business) as a waste of scarce resources and a threat to public health during the covid-19 epidemic Yet it is a crime to: "... block abortions as a waste of scarce resources and a threat to public health during the covid-19 epidemic ..." "... what part of his arrest is unconstitutional? ..." What part of, "...A federal judge ordered Texas to temporarily stop enforcing its ban on abortions...", is Constitutional ? Ya know eegor, every post you are sounding more and more like the tt ! |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by Eegore on 03/31/20 at 09:22:08 "Who said the first was in NY ?" I am referencing NY. So arrests in locations other than NY are not what I am referencing. "So in your view, it is perfectly OK to block (something/business) as a waste of scarce resources and a threat to public health during the covid-19 epidemic Yet it is a crime to: "... block abortions as a waste of scarce resources and a threat to public health during the covid-19 epidemic ..."" No. You said that. I never mentioned abortion in any way. I am not talking about abortions, I am talking about the bar in NY. "Ya know eegor, every post you are sounding more and more like the tt !" I don't care, it seems you are focused more on a member that doesn't post here than anyone else. If you have issues with another member it will do you no good to bring that up with me. You brought up abortion, not me. I never mentioned it. Do you have any comments regarding the topic of this thread? What part of the closing of this one specific bar, In and only in the state of NY, with the exclusion of all other things, to include abortions, is unconstitutional? |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by pg on 03/31/20 at 09:24:32 7050525A4750350 wrote:
Have you ever read the original unabated texted of the constitition? For what the founding fathers invisioned, these are all unconsitional. However, what it has evolved to is another matter. I am not taking the time to research that. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by MnSpring on 03/31/20 at 09:25:35 1C3C3E362B3C590 wrote:
You answered your own question: "...However businesses can be shut down for many reasons, such as health code violations, not paying taxes, not having a liquor license, serving alcohol to minors, unsafe working conditions etc...." (Was that a new form of deflection ?) Here is a question. Two Governors, issue a order 'you can't do this' ..., Both stating the same reason for the order. Yet one of them is perfectly OK, and the other one is not. Why ? |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by Eegore on 03/31/20 at 09:29:49 "Here is a question. Two Governors, issue a order 'you can't do this' ..., Both stating the same reason for the order. Yet one of them is perfectly OK, and the other one is not. Why ?" I don't think they are both perfectly ok. What part of the closing of this one specific bar, In and only in the state of NY, with the exclusion of all other things, to include abortions, is unconstitutional? Is there something specific to SARS-COV-2 that makes this public safety order unconstitutional, or is all public safety unconstitutional? |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by MnSpring on 03/31/20 at 09:33:17 4666646C7166030 wrote:
Na, it was Greg Abbott https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-blocked-from-banning-abortions-to-conserve-masks-gowns/ar-BB11VO7q?ocid=ientp |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by Eegore on 03/31/20 at 09:41:53 "Have you ever read the original unabated texted of the constitition? Yes. I typically use these: https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_education/programs/constitution_day/constitution-text/ For what the founding fathers invisioned, these are all unconsitional. I partially agree. I don't think they intended for all acts to be nonpunishable or allowed or there would be no listings of consequence in law of their time. Everything would be legal, since we would all be free, (Within reason given slavery/women's suffrage etc.) and the Government would have no position to stop a free citizen from doing pretty much anything. I am not sure the Founding Father's, if they had airplanes in their day, would agree to children consuming alcohol and flying planes. I feel it's possible that certain "rights" such as personal conveyance, would not be universal given those factors. I do think however that Constitutional protections apply under quarantines and public orders. Orders can not be "arbitrary, oppressive and unreasonable" since that is in the Constitution protections, but the State orders of public safety aren't. So since these orders originate from the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution, what is your take on that? Should we act to repeal Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264) and allow communicable disease transfer in the US? Would you recommend altering or repeal of 42 U.S.C. ? https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2011-title42/html/USCODE-2011-title42-chap6A-subchapII-partG-sec264.htm In Gibbons v. Ogden there was a lot of clarification regarding Federal influence over States: https://www.oyez.org/cases/1789-1850/22us1 |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by Eegore on 03/31/20 at 09:45:29 "Na, it was Greg Abbott" Greg Abbot did not reference me at all. "So in your view, it is perfectly OK to block (something/business) as a waste of scarce resources and a threat to public health during the covid-19 epidemic Yet it is a crime to: "... block abortions as a waste of scarce resources and a threat to public health during the covid-19 epidemic ..." You typed that. Greg Abbot did not say anything was specific to "my view" nor did he claim I thought anything was ok or not ok. You did. Do you have any non-abortion related comments about this topic? |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by MnSpring on 03/31/20 at 10:41:06 4D6D6F677A6D080 wrote:
Yer missing the point. But, great deflection ! |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by Eegore on 03/31/20 at 10:47:35 Yer missing the point. But, great deflection ! I am asking about this one bar, in NY. You are bringing content unrelated to my question posed in my thread. Title 42 - THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE CHAPTER 6A - PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE SUBCHAPTER II - GENERAL POWERS AND DUTIES has nothing - nothing to do with abortion. Make an abortion thread. You are falsely claiming I said things about abortion I have never said and quoting a member not even here to justify it. That is deflection. Do you have a comment about the topic of this thread? Specifically how this one bar, in NY, and NOT abortions, in regards to how arresting the owner is unconstitutional? |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by pg on 03/31/20 at 15:06:53 2505070F1205600 wrote:
We have one member here who condemns and criticizes the US at every opportunity. While we are talking about rights, unlike most similar liberal democracies, Australia does not have a formal Bill of Rights. Their law is largely based on 'common law' which I surmise is why the few freedoms they had are no longer in existance. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by srinath on 03/31/20 at 17:03:13 7760666A6575070 wrote:
We have one member here who condemns and criticizes the US at every opportunity. While we are talking about rights, unlike most similar liberal democracies, Australia does not have a formal Bill of Rights. Their law is largely based on 'common law' which I surmise is why the few freedoms they had are no longer in existance. Best regards, [/quote] BTW AUS and Singapore - largest critics of the Trump tent city policy used to fill planes full with visa overstayers, shave their heads, chain them 20-30 in a block and load em onto planes and transport em - ostly back to India. On a flight fron Singapore to Inia back in 2001 I happened to overhear a couple of the "prisoners" talk in Tamil. I engage them and I find that their only crime - albeit from their POV, they lived in Singapore without papers. As in - do what Mexicans do in the US. Upon landing in Madras - my home town, essentially they were sent into the general line - I continue speaking to them, one of those guys isn't even from Madras, he's from 500 km away. And doesn't even speak the language. Singapore, Malaysia, Australia and much of that part of the world does not have a leg or even a freaking little toe to stand on. If Trump is an illegal alien deporter, they are a$$ rapists, then organ stealers, then meat harvesters, then vulture feeders (yea vultures are endangered so we feed em those visa overstayers) then deport the people. Opps, you missing 90% of your flesh and most of your organs, sort out kis and vultures needed them. Nuke those Fcukers and we'll see who'd more humane. Those fools are worse … much much much worse than they imagine Trump will ever be. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by pg on 03/31/20 at 18:10:37 75746F6867726E060 wrote:
We have one member here who condemns and criticizes the US at every opportunity. While we are talking about rights, unlike most similar liberal democracies, Australia does not have a formal Bill of Rights. Their law is largely based on 'common law' which I surmise is why the few freedoms they had are no longer in existance. Best regards, [/quote] BTW AUS and Singapore - largest critics of the Trump tent city policy used to fill planes full with visa overstayers, shave their heads, chain them 20-30 in a block and load em onto planes and transport em - ostly back to India. On a flight fron Singapore to Inia back in 2001 I happened to overhear a couple of the "prisoners" talk in Tamil. I engage them and I find that their only crime - albeit from their POV, they lived in Singapore without papers. As in - do what Mexicans do in the US. Upon landing in Madras - my home town, essentially they were sent into the general line - I continue speaking to them, one of those guys isn't even from Madras, he's from 500 km away. And doesn't even speak the language. Singapore, Malaysia, Australia and much of that part of the world does not have a leg or even a freaking little toe to stand on. If Trump is an illegal alien deporter, they are a$$ rapists, then organ stealers, then meat harvesters, then vulture feeders (yea vultures are endangered so we feed em those visa overstayers) then deport the people. Opps, you missing 90% of your flesh and most of your organs, sort out kis and vultures needed them. Nuke those Fcukers and we'll see who'd more humane. Those fools are worse … much much much worse than they imagine Trump will ever be. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] What say you Sausage? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by pg on 04/01/20 at 19:02:33 2B3C3A3639295B0 wrote:
We have one member here who condemns and criticizes the US at every opportunity. While we are talking about rights, unlike most similar liberal democracies, Australia does not have a formal Bill of Rights. Their law is largely based on 'common law' which I surmise is why the few freedoms they had are no longer in existance. Best regards, [/quote] BTW AUS and Singapore - largest critics of the Trump tent city policy used to fill planes full with visa overstayers, shave their heads, chain them 20-30 in a block and load em onto planes and transport em - ostly back to India. On a flight fron Singapore to Inia back in 2001 I happened to overhear a couple of the "prisoners" talk in Tamil. I engage them and I find that their only crime - albeit from their POV, they lived in Singapore without papers. As in - do what Mexicans do in the US. Upon landing in Madras - my home town, essentially they were sent into the general line - I continue speaking to them, one of those guys isn't even from Madras, he's from 500 km away. And doesn't even speak the language. Singapore, Malaysia, Australia and much of that part of the world does not have a leg or even a freaking little toe to stand on. If Trump is an illegal alien deporter, they are a$$ rapists, then organ stealers, then meat harvesters, then vulture feeders (yea vultures are endangered so we feed em those visa overstayers) then deport the people. Opps, you missing 90% of your flesh and most of your organs, sort out kis and vultures needed them. Nuke those Fcukers and we'll see who'd more humane. Those fools are worse … much much much worse than they imagine Trump will ever be. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] What say you Sausage? Best regards,[/quote] Evidently not a lot.... Best regards, |
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Title: Beyond Draconian measures Post by srinath on 04/02/20 at 06:52:24 Oh yea you guys like the Singapore shiitte huh. OK here is more - a lot more LOL. My cousin has just moved there after living in NYC for 20yrs. Draconian doesn't even come close to the shopping mall called Singapore. They haven't closed down anything - they remain open for shopping, I mean business. Now Singapore grants birthright citizenship if - 1 parent is a citizen and the child is born in wedlock. Now wouldn't that be fantastic in the US. Singapore has fantastic schools that are free. But non citizens can not attend them. Private schools for non citizens cost 30K a year at a minimum and those suck. My cousin pays 50K per child for a IB type program for her 2 kids. Singapore has a fantastic healthcare system. Its Free. For citizens, non citizens can not access them. They either have to go private or without. Singapore has "excellent" state owned media - 7 TV and 14 radio stations. And its illegal to own a satellite dish LOL. Singapore has a big guest worker program. Its illegal to hire any one without papers, and you want domestic help, you need to provide them a room as well as state controlled pay and treatment. You can not get your family to help, because non citizens are only allowed to visit 1 month per year. As in, want your parents to help with baby sitting - not for more than 1 month a year, and if you get rid of the govt approved help for that month you might not be able to get the help when your parents leave in a month. They have a good reporting system, anyone you suspect may be violating some law can be easily reported and they will be investigated. In any traffic or any other stop you will be asked for all papers, including legal status. At any point of service you will be asked for papers. The think that annoyed my brother the most is, if you buy a bike/car, the initial tax and registration costs almost as much as the car. You cant buy it and take it out of the country without these papers. Even Singapore citizens think taxes are far too high, but the non citizen expenses are simply oppressive beyond being simply too high. I am nearly certain Australia doesn't have the same media and political BS that Singapore does but famously Australia dropped leaflets recently over parts of Sri Lanka to let them know if they turn up illegally to Australia they will be thrown out. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/18/home-affairs-created-fake-horoscopes-to-discourage-sri-lankans-from-seeking-asylum-in-Australia Why horoscopes you ask ???? Because Sri Lankans are deeply into numerology and horoscopes (weirdly - its not the same zodiac as the leaflet showed - clueless LOL) And for asylum seekers, Australia implemented - this beauty - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28189316 Not even sent back, they handed them to the same people the asylym seekers were running from. LOL. Singapore is a clear example of a police state. They make Nazi Germany look like kindergardners. Generally Singapore citizens know that violators of the system cost them $$$ and are happy to report people because these activities make it a level playing field and lowers their annoyingly high taxes. Singapore will let you in regardless of skill level, they will just rob you blind on top of the ridiculous taxes. Australia is blessed with a massive barrier to entry called the pacific ocean, but its beyond draconian what they do when someone shows there without papers, and they have the gall to critique the US ??? Total BS. PS: OMG this shiietet gets better and better doesn't it. Prior to 20 August 1986, almost anyone born inside Australia, no matter what visa they held, became an Australian Citizen. ... If they are born outside Australia, they can only be Australian if one parent is a Citizen. Full birthright citizenship in Australia effectively ended on 20 August 1986 Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Beyond Draconian measures Post by MnSpring on 04/02/20 at 11:02:59 6B6A7176796C70180 wrote:
The people that live in Australia, and pay Taxes so the Queen/PM/Parliament/Bureaucrats, can make huge amounts of money, are not, 'Citizens'. They are,'SUBJECTS'. |
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Title: Re: Beyond Draconian measures Post by srinath on 04/02/20 at 11:44:55 2C0F321113080F06610 wrote:
The people that live in Australia, and pay Taxes so the Queen/PM/Parliament/Bureaucrats, can make huge amounts of money, are not, 'Citizens'. They are,'SUBJECTS'. [/quote] Australia has a Queen ??? You're thinking England maybe ? Norway ? Australian govt and their PM - is believe it or not - exactly what Trump is ridiculed for and he drinks too I believe. Going back to 2008 or so, the Australian press's favorite pastime is to ridicule their PM - regardless of who it was, and there were 4-5 of them in this period, and they were all the butt of many many jokes. That's not what I am talking about here though. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Beyond Draconian measures Post by MnSpring on 04/02/20 at 13:29:46 3332292E213428400 wrote:
"... The present monarch is Elizabeth II, styled Queen of Australia, who has reigned since 6 February 1952. ..." "...The Monarchy of Australia is a form of government in which a hereditary monarch is the sovereign of Australia according to the rules of the Australian Constitution..." "... The Governor General of Australia does the work of the monarch for the national Government. State Governors do the work of the monarch for State Governments of Australia. ..." |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by srinath on 04/02/20 at 15:20:44 Oh I guess they're Queens lands too. This just gets better and better doesn't it. I guess they bleed the taxpayer as much as the British monarchy does, but its just that they're so far away we don't hear about it as much. I thought Australia was all prisoners then they had kids. BTW women prisoners too were sent over ??? So many questions I know I could google this crap but its more fun to sit here needling people - what can I say, I learnt from the best (and the dumducks of the American press too). Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by pg on 04/02/20 at 15:38:59 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convicts_in_Australia Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Beyond Draconian measures Post by pg on 04/02/20 at 15:51:17 4D4C57505F4A563E0 wrote:
It is sounds like a pretty interesting place, thanks for taking the time to post all that info. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by MnSpring on 04/02/20 at 16:48:32 WOW, Wonder if eds, has heritage of this ??? " ... some later Australians, the nation's convict origins instilled a sense of shame and cultural cringe. Attitudes became more accepting in the 20th century and it is now considered by many Australians to be a cause for celebration to have a convict in one's lineage ..." Or is he/she, like Warren, where once was NOT popular, but now is ??? (Is being 1245'th part, count as being a descendant of a Convict ?) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/02/20 at 17:01:32 Srinath, thanks for the lessons on Australia. I went and looked it up.. Best I can tell Australia stopped being under the queen in around 1939,, But, I was just doing a quick scan and there MAY have been alcohol involved,, Until you said all that I believed they were subjects of Da Queen,, |
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Title: Re: Beyond Draconian measures Post by srinath on 04/02/20 at 17:30:44 3126202C2333410 wrote:
It is sounds like a pretty interesting place, thanks for taking the time to post all that info. Best regards,[/quote] Singapore is IMHO the worst place on the planet. Its like India but … only it aint. In every every every way … Let me put it in what I understand to be American speak. Its like saying since America has snow, time zones and white people, its exactly like Russia. Yea in bizzzaro world (and Bernie is the kin in that world) BTW Singapore banned chewing gum, cos the metro trains etc etc had some problem with them if they got on their tracks or doors or whatever. Hey Morons - have you ever hear of NYC ???? Or the Tube in England wherever … yea people chew gum and ride the metro and the gum doesn't stop them. >:( Retarded Nazi's. The first day I am there I can picture myself getting arrested for a million reasons (likely posting this chiittte on savage forum is illegal there, plus chewing gum, drinking coffee or whiskey) and getting A$$ canned off to the wrong freaking sh!thole country, probably China. BTW Tipping is illegal there - one aspect I love. Its really a police state, they don't want waitresses to have $$$ that they don't know about. That's the goal but still - its almost like they need to know all the $$$ you make, all the expenses you have, so they can find out exactly how much to take from you when they need it. Its like this guy makes 200K, taxes take 75, his apt is 50, his kids school costs 50, for 25K he buys food. He spends only 12K on food, so we'll charge him 10K for this POS car he's bought. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Finally a Draconian measure Post by srinath on 04/03/20 at 02:27:29 786F69656A7A080 wrote:
LOL, nice. BTW in 1987 I think there was an australian tennis player called Pat Cash who won Wimbledon. There was a rumor or some geneology study (don't remember what) that said his ancestor was a "highway man" LOL. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Beyond Draconian measures Post by pg on 04/03/20 at 14:24:59 7E7F64636C79650D0 wrote:
It is sounds like a pretty interesting place, thanks for taking the time to post all that info. Best regards,[/quote] Singapore is IMHO the worst place on the planet. Its like India but … only it aint. In every every every way … [/quote] I don't quite follow you; although, I remember years ago an American got caned for spitting his gum out.... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Beyond Draconian measures Post by srinath on 04/03/20 at 16:25:27 2F383E323D2D5F0 wrote:
OK in India the ultimate sign of "affluence" is that someone goes to Singapore. They'd come back with stories like the doors to mall open by themselves and trains do this and that crap. When we has no malls - I didn't even know what a mall was. I moved to the US in 92 and was like WTF every trashy grocery store has self opening doors. I went through there in 94 and it wasn't bad as a transit point. But By 96 I had heard some horror stories from my brother. But this year has been a full on assault from my cousin. Its like India but crappier, like a lot crappier. Like someone made Indian food into a McD's burger and made you pay 5X the price of both the McD and the Indian food, and you didn't even have the option to not eat it. So let me take this chicken masala, throw 5X the rice in it, then cram it all in some type of gooping press, then put in between a bun and serve it to you, and you don't even have the option of not eating, you still have to pay. They know you have $13K a year that you're trying to save, and its illegal here. Some sort of BS like that. The lack of freedom will just prove to be worse than death. Cool. Srinath. |
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