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Message started by IslandRoad on 01/27/20 at 21:45:41

Title: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by IslandRoad on 01/27/20 at 21:45:41

This would be it!

... and if I had a spare $17k (AUD)


I know this is a bit off-topic for the Savage site. But I also know that many people on here appreciate a good 'standard'.

And I really appreciate this one!

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by IslandRoad on 01/27/20 at 23:33:11

Oh, and that 'rat tail' hanging off the back would be the first mod I'd make. Here in Aus, up until last year, the vehicle code demanded 'something' hanging on the back to at least some ridiculous angle in relation to the rear axle.

The law has since changed to (I think) the 45 degree mark. That's where the licence plate would sit. The extra bit would hold the rear reflector. That can be ditched pretty readily (assuming you don't come a across a particularly pedantic traffic cop). Same for the orange side reflectors on the forks.

I don't ride at night, so safety isn't an issue.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by jcstokes on 01/27/20 at 23:36:14

Blends in to tar seal/ blacktop beautifully.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by IslandRoad on 01/27/20 at 23:46:47

Sorry, not familiar with the terms. Don't know what you mean.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/28/20 at 02:57:28

No contrast between the road and paint..
Almost invisible..

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by IslandRoad on 01/28/20 at 03:35:08


243B3D3A2720112111293B377C4E0 wrote:
No contrast between the road and paint..
Almost invisible..



Oh, ok. Sounds good to me.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by Dave on 01/28/20 at 14:12:30

I like the bike - but not the "plank" looking seat.

I think the seat should be made with a bit more style.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by DesertCat on 01/28/20 at 14:23:05

I just bought this new 2019 Triumph Street Twin 900 last month.  It's an entry level bike in their classic line.  I like it.  My first Triumph -- always wanted one starting back in the late 1960s, but I couldn't afford one back then.



Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by IslandRoad on 01/28/20 at 15:07:20


053E3324353922243F373A25560 wrote:
I like the bike - but not the "plank" looking seat.

I think the seat should be made with a bit more style.




Now I can't unsee that 'plank'  :-?

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by IslandRoad on 01/28/20 at 15:09:03


4B6A7C6A7D7B4C6E7B0F0 wrote:
I just bought this new 2019 Triumph Street Twin 900 last month.  It's an entry level bike in their classic line.  I like it.  My first Triumph -- always wanted one starting back in the late 1960s, but I couldn't afford one back then.






That's a great looking bike!

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by IslandRoad on 01/28/20 at 15:12:14

One of the things Triumph have done really well on their modern bikes is to keep the radiator discrete. They've managed to maintain the look of classic air-cooled bikes.

Some radiators on other modern cruisers really dominate the look of the bike and look out of place.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by DesertCat on 01/28/20 at 15:45:41


78425D505F55635E5055310 wrote:
[quote author=4B6A7C6A7D7B4C6E7B0F0 link=1580190357/0#7 date=1580250185]I just bought this new 2019 Triumph Street Twin 900 last month.  It's an entry level bike in their classic line.  I like it.  My first Triumph -- always wanted one starting back in the late 1960s, but I couldn't afford one back then.






That's a great looking bike!
[/quote]

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Hey thanks.  It was quite inexpensive compared to the rest of the "classic" line -- and it was a 2019 they were trying to get rid of.  I liked its clean look.  It only weighs about 460 wet (curb weight).

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by DieselBob on 01/28/20 at 19:52:32

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Quote:
I like the bike - but not the "plank" looking seat.



My son went through a "cafe" phase in college and banged out this Yamaha triple. In the process he liberated some 2" walnut I'd milled to make his "seat". Now Dave, that's a real plank.




http://https://i.postimg.cc/YCX1RFFC/Phil-s-Yamaha-3-Cylinder.jpg

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by ohiomoto on 01/29/20 at 17:13:06

I'm not a big fan of the modern Triumph.  I think Kawasaki did a much better job with their modern "Triumph", the W650.  Unfortunately they only sold it here for 2 years.  I guess there wasn't enough love here in the US.  I don't get it.  :( :(

http://https://www.carolenash.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Kawasaki_650_on_road.jpg

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by Juliana on 01/29/20 at 17:17:50

Hmm I agree on the Kawasaki looks. Ive never liked the apperance of the Triumph engine, it just looks heavy and clumsy to me. That said Im sure they are great bikes.  :)

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by ohiomoto on 01/29/20 at 17:22:50

I think the huge tanks are worse than the engines.  May as well strap a 5 gallon gas can up there.  

But to each his own.  I'm just salty because I loved my old TR6 and I'm mad I get just buy a modern version of it.  Just not many modern bikes that float my boat I guess.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by Juliana on 01/29/20 at 17:39:42

I know what you mean. I really dislike the angry insect transformer styling that is so popular, and its a deal breaker for me on a couple of bikes I like. I wanted ( and still do ) a KTM 390. It pushes a lot of my buttons but I couldnt live with the ugly headlight. Ditto the styling on the Yamaha MT range, great bikes, but Id couldnt look at one in my garage every day. But then again they are hugely popular here.

Ive got a feeling the Yamaha riders look at me on the S40 and can only think " why would she ride that relic? "

All goes to show we  have a feeling about how a bike should look and can just sit and look at our bikes enjoying the lines/proportions/memories/trips that we all love so much.

Another thing abut the Triumphs ..i couldnt bear looking at the carbs and knowing they are fake. Its funny how the things that some people presumably admire, rub others the wrong way haha

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by jcstokes on 01/29/20 at 18:00:21

Relic, Yamaha makes/made a thing called Bolt. I look at them on Trade Me now and again.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by IslandRoad on 01/29/20 at 19:28:41

I sat on the new Bolt in the showroom the other day. That's what drew me into the new bike section where I saw the Bonnie 'Ace'.

I reckon the Bolt was the best looking metric cruiser on the floor. White satin finish with red trim on the seat and wheels. The seat was bobber-inspired (uncomfortable, but I'd ride it). Also, the bike was narrow. I could just about get my knees against the tank. Beautiful bike!

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by ohiomoto on 01/29/20 at 19:38:32

If you guys like the Bolt, that's cool but this was so wrong:

http://https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0783/8397/products/SCR_C_Dk2_2048x2048.jpg?v=1571442904

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by ohiomoto on 01/29/20 at 19:45:28


32090413020E151308000D12610 wrote:
I like the bike - but not the "plank" looking seat.

I think the seat should be made with a bit more style.
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Well if the tank didn't stick up like someone shoved and Airbus A380 in there maybe that seat wouldn't look like a skateboard.
;)

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by ohiomoto on 01/29/20 at 19:46:38

I like the T100 the best because it's closest to the classics, but that tank...
 :(

http://https://chesapeakecycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Novmber-18-new-022.jpg

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by IslandRoad on 01/29/20 at 20:30:02

While we're talking, I'm just gonna throw this into the mix too. I think Triumph have done a great job on the bobber too. I reckon the faux-hard-tail works (I've already mentioned the radiator). The seat? ... well it could have been made of walnut - it was that hard. But, a great looking street-legal bike.


Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by jcstokes on 01/30/20 at 00:52:56

Island Road, can you still buy Bolts off the floor over there, seems they are only on special order here and since I have an S40, won't be paying special order prices.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by IslandRoad on 01/30/20 at 14:44:37

JC, yep.

https://www.ontwowheels.com.au/product/2019-yamaha-bolt-r-spec/

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by jcstokes on 01/30/20 at 21:47:26

Fair few of the W650, and W800 sold in NZ, but I think no more.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by jcstokes on 02/01/20 at 23:26:42

Second hand Bolts seem to run from $7 to 12 thousand  $NZ, but I have an S40, so the Bolt can stay in fantasy  land.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by srinath on 02/02/20 at 06:12:05


2D2A2B2D2F2D362D420 wrote:
If you guys like the Bolt, that's cool but this was so wrong:

http://https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0783/8397/products/SCR_C_Dk2_2048x2048.jpg?v=1571442904




I have one of these in grey. 2017 only and actually its an awesome bike, but as an SCR it lasted 3 days before I un "bolt" ed it back to a bolt.
Yamaha took a bike they could not keep in stock at 8K bolted $1000 worth of crap onto it and turned it into a bike they could not give away at 4K.
Too hard, too heavy, too high, too slippery and too grabby. And it really can only cover 3 of those 5 LOL. Man was that skateboard of a seat painful as druck. There was a dealer in MO called St Charles who in mid 2019 had 3-4 of these 2017 new SCR's clearanced to $2999. Yea a new 1000 cc bike for 3K. That's how bad it was, mine became a bolt 3 days after I bought it.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by ohiomoto on 02/02/20 at 06:48:31

Right, they should have dressed up a SR400 if they wanted a scrambler.  It would have been more appropriate.  The odd part is the Bolt is one of many V-twin Harley wannabe bikes and that's the bike they started with??!!  Harley has never been know for their scramblers.  SHM

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by srinath on 02/02/20 at 07:55:40

The bolt was given to 15+ bike builders and they built some versions of them, and the award went to Hagemann, and Yamaha took the "best" of their ideas and turned it to a total piece of garbage - I have one, and the implementation was all the problem.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: If I was gonna buy a Triumph ...
Post by ohiomoto on 02/02/20 at 09:22:55

Yeah, their Yard Built programs is pretty cool, but using the Bolt was still a stupid idea.  The SR400 YB program produced this:

http://https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LCQuuFYd1ds/UnmVZrz2ZgI/AAAAAAAAoyk/3BtnRB6QQ7k/s1600/000.jpg

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