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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> The Cafe >> Royal Enfield 500CC /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1572827272 Message started by Trippah on 11/03/19 at 16:27:52 |
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Title: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by Trippah on 11/03/19 at 16:27:52 Has anyone on the board tried one in the past 5 years? I'm looking for a single and, in my 70's, the savage is getting a bit hearvy :o |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by oldNslow on 11/03/19 at 17:00:55 64425940405158300 wrote:
I've never ridden one, so I don't know what one feels like compared to a Savage in terms of weight, but I looked at the RE website and the wet weight of a 500 Classic is 195 KG. That's 430#, so it heavier than a Savage. |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by MMRanch on 11/03/19 at 19:49:16 I find the Honda 300 Rebel (370 lbs) appealing but its chain drive ... with modern "O-ring" chains and only 300cc ... the chain might not be a problem ? :-? The S-40 is what I'm keeping for an "Old Man" bike ;) check this out ! Any thing lighter than this and you'll be ordering from China. :) https://clevelandcyclewerks.com/ccwbikes-1/ |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by zipidachimp on 11/03/19 at 23:00:19 From one old man (75) to another, out of shape and overweight, I own 2 S40s, one standard and one hotrod. The S40 is the perfect 'old man' bike. This website has a lot of people who have modded their bikes, dropping weight in the process. Perfect winter project ! 1 smaller rear tire 5lbs 2 dyna muffler 5lbs 3 toss rear fender 10lbs 4 other stuff ????? cheers! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by Dave on 11/04/19 at 02:02:32 The Honda Rebel 500 is 408 pounds - but to get a bit less weight than the Savage you will need to drop down to the Rebel 300 at 360 pounds. The 500 would likely have more power and speed the Savage as it is a twin - the 300 will likely have less power than you would find satisfying and will not likely be able to travel at interstate speeds. Finding a modern motorcycle that is capable of highway speeds and weighs less than a Savage is going to be tough. The Buell Blast only weighs 360 pounds, and there are a lot of good low mileage once still out there that are cheap. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buell_Blast |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by oldNslow on 11/04/19 at 04:25:01 Quote:
There are a few, but they probably are not very appealing to those of us who are attracted to more old school styling and simple maintenance.. The KTM 390 Duke for example. 40+ hp, about 320# curb weight, top speed a bit over 100. But it's a naked sport bike. https://www.ktm.com/us/naked/390-duke/ MSRP is less than a brand new S40 too. |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by zipidachimp on 11/04/19 at 11:15:28 try riding any Duke for longer than 5 minutes with 70-75 year old knees, no way! >:( ps; this whizbang Duke qualifies for lowest insurance cost due to being under 400cc ! perfect squid bike! :D |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by Mavigogun on 11/04/19 at 11:31:30 I test rode the Royal Enfield Himalayan, 411cc- it felt torque-free, anemic, and insubstantial. A different bike, for sure, but speaking to the whole lighter bike topic, I wanted something that I might have a chance from crawling out from under adventuring. If slow zombies were chasing me, I'd be glad to have it. Very slow zombies. Its full-throttle speed just scratched 70 mph for me. |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by springman on 11/04/19 at 14:56:13 Thanks for the input on the RE Mavi. I have to admit I have ogled the RE online also. I don't believe I would want anything slower than the Savage. |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by springman on 11/04/19 at 14:57:14 Hey, where did you get to ride the Himalayan? I have yet to see one in person. |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by Mavigogun on 11/04/19 at 15:50:05 You can take one for a spin at Polaris, in Katy. Give 'em a call first so they can prep the bike and have a ride along on hand. |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by raydawg on 11/05/19 at 07:04:07 I had the Rebel before the Savage, the smaller twin, I had to ride it hard, be very active shifting, to get it to perform safely, in traffic, etc.... It was new, went through valve guides twice, under warranty, took weeks and no commuter bike.....that was a major bummer. Traded it in for the savage, no comparison power wise, and I think the savage is better balanced, lower center of gravity, the torque was the only learning curve...... |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by Mavigogun on 11/05/19 at 07:08:47 Polaris tried to get me on a traded-in Rebel while I was there trying out the REH. It had some sex appeal, but was heavy and expensive. When you say "no comparison power wise" and "the torque was the only learning curve", do you mean the S40 has remarkably less of either? |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by raydawg on 11/05/19 at 07:49:04 No, the savage is a better performing bike, with less driving, to keep it in its optimal performance curve.... Not sure if I am explaining it right, but I could relax more on the savage, and still had options to avoid any given threat, like just a twist on the throttle, instead of downshifting, to get more power to get out of the way, etc.... |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by Armen on 11/05/19 at 08:05:02 Easy to knock 10s of pounds off a Savage. Rode a few of the RE 500 singles, and one twin. Twin was nice. Singles were raw sewage. |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by LANCER on 11/05/19 at 09:01:37 Finding another bike of similar or less weight and having similar performance characteristics is nearly impossible. The LS is 360-380 lbs stock and can be reduced to nearly 300. My Savage weighs 327 lbs and is reasonably light with fenders and stock exhaust replaced, among a few other little things. There just are not many machines that can compete when it comes to weight-torque-handling....except other/older older big singles. |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by Fast 650 on 11/05/19 at 09:23:44 1. You can replace the fenders with lighter ones, especially the rear fender. 2. The wheels can be re-laced with aluminum rims instead of the heavier steel ones. 3. The heavy muffler and double wall exhaust can be replaced with a lighter muffler and single wall pipe. And you get a performance boost as well as shedding some weight. 4. A lightened flywheel can drop about 5 pounds and you gain a bit more performance again. 5. Replace steel parts with aluminum where possible. 6. Some parts can be drilled to reduce weight. 7. Replace bolts with lighter alloy bolts. These bikes are pretty light as is, but you can still lighten them quite a bit without sacrificing rider comfort. And with every pound that you remove you are improving the power to weight ratio so it runs stronger too. |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by Trippah on 11/06/19 at 07:10:05 Yeah, a 500-600cc single is hard to find. Kinda wish the SR 500 was still in production, think maybe a Panther would have been perfect but I suspect there is a reason they died. The Savage is fine on highway or back road, and the shifting is when you remember (or when the bike shudders a bit). The BMW Rotax engine bike is a possibility, but is surely as ugly to me as a bike can be. Well, have all Winter to think about it. Thanks for the answers so far. I wonder how many (or few?) RE has sold in this country? |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by raydawg on 11/06/19 at 07:28:44 Time for a trike? |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by Armen on 11/06/19 at 08:23:41 Trippah, SR was kick only. Not a good old guy bike. Prob the same weight as the Savage, no elec start, and non-counterbalanced. Not a great choice. Not many RE500s on the road except for hipsters and eccentrics. Crap build quality, gutless, non-counterbalanced. Much easier to drop 50 pounds off your Savage than make a good bike out of the other choices you mentioned. Many folks have dropped theirs down to the low 300 pound range. Can't imagine a real street bike weighing less. Much less having a counterbalance and electric start. |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by springman on 11/06/19 at 09:43:46 Thanks for the info Mavi. |
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Post by Dave on 11/06/19 at 17:55:26 14322930302128400 wrote:
I think I just got a fist in the mouth?! :o |
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