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Message started by ZSteele on 10/16/19 at 15:45:57

Title: Titanium Header
Post by ZSteele on 10/16/19 at 15:45:57

Seeing as Armen hasn't even gotten to running a titanium pipe my guess is no one has. I'm in the process of getting quotes for a header at the moment.

I'm currently running a stock header with a supertrapp and I gotta say, the ability to tune the muffler seems like a great option for fine tuning the bike. Some research shows the supertrapp is really just glasspack with the discs for tunability so it would be possible to construct a titanium "supertrapp" and resuse the discs.

Does this whole idea seem not worth the time/money or is a full titanium exhaust worth more than the pretty welds?

Title: Re: Titanium Header
Post by Armen on 10/16/19 at 18:59:22

The thing about Ti, is not only is the material expensive, it has to be either welded in a vacuum or in a chamber full of inert gas.
I was going to gather up a bunch of pre-bent parts from Aircone and try tacking together a head pipe. You can get the stuff in mild steel or stainless (I'm pretty sure).
The big weight savings is going from the very thick double wall stocker to a single wall head pipe. Even as crazy as I am about weight, I wouldn't bother with a Ti header unless I knew someone who worked at a place that made the stuff. Prob end up costing thousands for Ti, as opposed to hundreds for the steel one.
But if you do, please post pics.

Title: Re: Titanium Header
Post by ZSteele on 10/16/19 at 20:15:00

Good to know on the double wall, alot of the appeal for me is just the cosmetic of Ti but theres almost no way Ill get around to it soon. Down the line for sure though.

Title: Re: Titanium Header
Post by SpamyToo on 10/16/19 at 22:42:27

Id be curious to see if the DR650 header fits and where it lands on the bike.  Maybe for a scrambler build.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Steel-Exhaust-Head-Pipe-Header-For-Suzuki-DR650SE-DR-650-97-2014-12-13/362770053342?hash=item5476c7b8de:g:CQsAAOSw5cNYgEwG

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FMF-Racing-Powerbomb-Head-Pipe-Exhaust-Header-1997-2017-Suzuki-DR650SE-DR-650-S/141389002329?epid=664456539&hash=item20eb70f659:g:q0cAAOSw7NNT~2CZ

Title: Re: Titanium Header
Post by Dave on 10/17/19 at 04:38:08

I thought the DR650 head had the exhaust port on the left side - while the S40 has it on the right side?

I have been wanting to build a stainless header for years......I just haven't been able to do it yet.  Unfortunately I have not found anyone that can mandrel bend one - so it would require getting the bent parts and cutting/welding a header together.  Pretty welds are not my specialty so far - so I might just tack the parts together and take them to a good welder.  Stainless must be welded with the inside of the pipe filled with an inert gas - otherwise the inside of the weld "sugars" and makes big drippy beads.  The available bends are at a smaller radius than the stock pipe - so the angle at the head will not be the big easy bend that the stock pipe has.

There are plenty of stainless mufflers available including the Supertrapp.

Title: Re: Titanium Header
Post by Fast 650 on 10/17/19 at 09:46:04

Dave, have you checked Summit Racing? They have a selection of stainless bends in 1.75" OD with the same radius as the stock pipe and comes polished or not polished. A 180 bend can be carefully cut so that it will make both bends on the pipe. Total cost for enough pipe to make 2 exhausts was only around $60 when I ordered mine. We weld stainless at work, so I will get one of the guys at work to weld it up for me when I get to that stage.

Title: Re: Titanium Header
Post by Dave on 10/17/19 at 13:39:48

A 1.5" diameter pipe is a better choice for my engine.......I putt around at partial throttle a lot.

Title: Re: Titanium Header
Post by verslagen1 on 10/17/19 at 15:10:41

Found these guys for 1.625 od stainless

https://www.amazon.com/1-625-16ga-Stainless-Tubing-Exhaust/dp/B07MQ2ZZRW/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_img_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Z8Y8R54HCKDG8RY6QCT3

Title: Re: Titanium Header
Post by batman on 10/20/19 at 08:54:53

ceramic coated steel header?

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